Maine Set To Become First State With Data Center Ban (cnbc.com)
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- News link: https://yro.slashdot.org/story/26/04/13/0335254/maine-set-to-become-first-state-with-data-center-ban
- Source link: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/09/maine-data-center-ban.html
> Maine's bill has a few steps to go through before becoming law, notably whether Gov. Janet Mills will exercise her veto power. Mills asked lawmakers to include an exemption for several areas of the state where data center construction could continue. However, an amendment to do so was stuck down in the House, 29 to 115. Complicating Mills' decision is her campaign to become Maine's next senator. Mills is facing off against Graham Platner, an oyster farmer, in a high-profile Democratic primary. Platner is leading Mills in most recent polls by double digits.
[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/09/maine-data-center-ban.html
I hope nobody in Maine (Score:1)
has data that goes through, or is stored in a data center, otherwise, they'll come off like hypocrites.
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I bet you'll see a bunch of them protesting, but near the data center exhaust because it's nice and warm. I mean seriously, of all places, *Maine*?
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Does AWS or any of the big AI companies really want to build a data center in Maine? It's not exactly near any major Internet backbones or major tech hubs. The electricity there is expensive as well, plus you have to worry about blizzards disrupting your diesel deliveries during a power outage.
It seems like someone is trying to score easy political points "protesting" something that probably wasn't going to be built anyway.
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> Does AWS or any of the big AI companies really want to build a data center in Maine?
None so far.
> It's not exactly near any major Internet backbones or major tech hubs. The electricity there is expensive as well, plus you have to worry about blizzards disrupting your diesel deliveries during a power outage.
Logistics is not the new hotness. The new hotness is YOLO.
> It seems like someone is trying to score easy political points "protesting" something that probably wasn't going to be built anyway.
But . . . but won't anyone think about their freedom?
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What Maine does have (at least inland) is a lot of low cost real-estate, not the timber and pulp industries are insignificant but they own most of it and I am sure they'd love the opportunity to sell a few hundred acres for a onetime 100x multiple of their 'crop yield'.
The other part of this is 'data centers' need to be very well connected, but do 'compute centers'? While that historically has been a distinction without a different, maybe it does not have to be.
Be it for training (bulk data delivered infreq
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What Maine does have (at least inland) is a lot of low cost real-estate
Tahoe used to be a bargain, too. Wait until the San Francisco transplants move in and see how cheap Maine becomes.
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Oh for sure, Maine has been on that trajectory for decades. Every since they embraced that "Maine Vacation Land" slogan at the state level.
The traditional industry (fishing, forest products, garment manufacturer, maritime construction) are being displaced. Garments are basically gone. Fishing, maritime construction / maintenance, forest products are learning to adapt mix and embrace tourism, to the extent they are surviving, it isn't just 'Bar Harbor' any more.
Maine is a gentrifying in a big way. Honestl
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Maine currently has [1]four operational data centers and another seven that are announced but not yet under construction [siliconreport.com]. It took me about 30 seconds to find that information. You could have looked it up just as easily. See my signature quote.
[1] https://www.siliconreport.com/datacenters/me
Re: I hope nobody in Maine (Score:2)
Progressives are taking a cue from their European democratic socialists and getting really good at regulating industries they barely have.
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They don't ban datacenters, they just ban *new* datacenters, for now.
I haven't read as to what counts as new datacenter construction. If they can expand existing, or renovate existing. If it's anything like retail around here, datacenter operators being pressured to reuse existing infrastructure wouldn't be terrible. We have a blight of dead retail space even as they keep clearing forest to make new retail space. I would *love* if retail industry was forced to revitalize the abandoned retail footprint i
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> has data that goes through, or is stored in a data center, otherwise, they'll come off like hypocrites.,
1) It's a temporary ban not a permanent one. 2) There have been no major datacenter projects in Maine yet. 3) One of the reasons for the ban is to allow the state to assess infrastructure changes. Some of these datacenters are being built with a "If you build it, they will come" attitude when it comes to infrastructure demands like electricity and water. In decades past when companies built datacenters, they had to plan for these things and some datacenters built their own power and water plants.
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No different from when ExxonMobil CEO sued to ban fracking in his backyard. We are all hypocrites. I don't want toxic chemicals spilt in my yard but ok with purchasing products that are made in 3rd world countries without regulations on exposure or storage to said chemicals. Ever see how 3rd world countries mine computer parts for precious metals? Data centers suck, they will raise the temp around and will be noisy has hell. I live near a pharmaceutical manufacture that keeps expanding and they are constant
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They're coming off as sensible people trying to find reasonable solutions to real problems. This is only a short term construction ban until November of next year. That will give them time to work out long term solutions and get the proper regulations in place. That seems sensible.
The CNBC article struck me as one sided and strongly pro-business. [1]This article [cnn.com] is more in depth and goes into more detail about what the bill is meant to address. A relevant quote:
> State lawmakers are reacting to the "speed, scale and secrecy" of many data center projects, said Jason Beckfield, a Harvard University sociology professor studying data centers. Developers are on highly compressed timelines of weeks and months. Often, projects can feel like they fall out of the sky, he said.
> "There's such a strong culture of secrecy around these things, it leaves regular community members and their elected representatives in a position where they can't possibly hope to keep up," Beckfield said.
[1] https://edition.cnn.com/2026/04/12/climate/maine-data-center-ban-bill
Now data centers will ban Maine (Score:1)
Say goodbye to your emails.
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Because Maine does not want new datacenters, network communications like TCP/IP stops working across state lines?
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Such a naive comment.
Data centers don't build or maintain infrastructure or housing or anything tangible. In fact they are a parasite on infrastructure often causing massive cost increases to surrounding residents. Any job creation is short lived once the thing is up and running.
- It's leaches vs honey bees.
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> - It's leaches vs honey bees.
Honey bees ARE an invasive species in North America. Invasive species are bad, right? /s
Paper mills are truly awful to be around. Necessary, but awful.
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Such an arrogant comment...
Datacenters improve the speed of thought... Across every domain. That's not valuable at all. I forgot.
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That would at least bring jobs.
since datacenters need water for cooling (Score:2)
Move the datacenters to the arctic circle be it Alaska or Canada or Greenland, all that glacier ice melt should be nice and cold
That's stupid (Score:1)
Better to let the market sort out how many data centers we need and where they should be. There's absolutely no need for government to get involved, beyond very narrow national security concerns (i.e. don't put all the data centers in the same spot where they can all be easily taken out).
Plus, any state that bans them is literally handicapping themselves economically. They're definitely tax revenue and job generators, although the job numbers are fairly low after the construction phase.
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Building the data center brings some temporary jobs but under normal operation only a handful of people work there. Mostly to change out failed hardware.
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Was anyone planning on building a data center in Maine in the next two years? Probably not, so all this amounts to is a meaningless law that politicians can say they worked hard on to ensure that the citizens of Maine were blah blah blah. Even though it did nothing expect it to be talked about excessively when the candidate is up for reelection. This is just a hot button issue that a lot of people are worried about or feel strongly about so it's easy to score points with voters with something that cost no p
New England BGP (Score:2)
> Was anyone planning on building a data center in Maine in the next two years?
Ya' can't get thea' from hea'.
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"Better to let the market sort out how many data centers we need and where they should be. There's absolutely no need for government to get involved,"
I grew up with coal mines & "crackers" in my back yard and coal-trains rumbling past at 2-AM. Across town subsurface mine-fires burned for decades spewing massive SO2 & CO into the air. Pretty flames at night ... City buildings fell into mines where the "pillars" were robbed. Mine cave-ins tried swallowing the Susquehanna
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Problem is a lot of local communities do not understand these facilities.
Was a news story around here where a datacenter project was deeply regretted by the local politicians. They saw "business will build facitlity with huge amount of square feet" and their closest comparison was a textile plant of about that size and how many jobs they used to provide. So they excitedly bent over backwards to accommodate the datacenter project and then ultimately had an enduring employment of about 6 jobs.
Tax revenue? Th
Bans are not the answer... nor are tax breaks (Score:2)
I don't think bans are the answer. But also, governments that [1]offer bribes [youtube.com] to get data centers built are also doing the wrong thing.
I think data center construction needs to be regulated. The data center must pay property taxes just like everyone else, and it must provide money for every watt of power that it uses... money to build new energy generation capacity and transmission infrastructure so that other people's electricity rates are not affected by the data center.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLX_w0TtBpY
While I sympathize (Score:2)
....part of me wonders about the opposite end of the 'tragedy of the commons'.
If a state were, for example, to ban all power plants within its borders, should it benefit from electric power created by such plants? (Of course the libertarian capitalist answer is they they're free to do so, but this gives pricing leverage to the states that ARE willing to suffer the siting of a power plant in their borders....)
Same with data centers. I recognize all their ills, and that (it certainly seems) that much of the
Bans are not the answer. (Score:2)
People are building data centers because people are using the services that are supported by those data centers. Either make the builders of data centers (a) put as much (clean/renewable) energy on the grid as they use, and/or (b) charge them more for the electricity they use, so that the higher energy costs don't splash onto the general public. Maybe... progressive rates for energy usage?
Re:Bans are not the answer. (Score:5, Insightful)
I think a fair argument can be made that the buildout is not because people are using, but instead based on an expectation that people *will* be using them.
If it were the case that we overrun the capacity then one would expect companies to be a bit more restrained. Instead almost every google search gets an "AI Overview", inflating the query cost a hundred fold without the user ever actually opting in. So many companies are embedding AI implicitly into existing flows without user demand being actively expressed. This is not the behavior of a market starved of resources that would be saving the capacity for those that specifically opt into it and further the ones that would pay for it.
The scenario that we are under sized for the current demand would imply that no one should be able to see 'free' usage of AI in their experience and would be expected to pay up.
It's not just about the energy, we have water and land usage concerns as well. A few cases around here of farmland potentially going to datacenter buildout, and I'm not sure that's a good long term trade.
It's abundantly clear this is a tech bubble, with some undefined durable demand, but the current speculative buildout may never get fully utilized. By the time the non-bubble demand catches up, there's good chances that we have a whole other approach that dramatically changes what sorts of resources are needed. For example people sometimes defend the dot-com buildout as rational because, eventually, we surpassed even the dreams of back then, but we had to scrap a lot of that buildout as hopelessly irrelevant to the market that was all-in on internet.
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Most of the build outs happen where energy is cheap/subsidized. or there's tax advantages or incentives given out. There's no need for laws to prevent them. Remove all the subsidies and tax incentives and they'll go look where it's cheaper.
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Part of what gets the average ratepayer are the infrastructure costs. Datacentre buildouts require sometimes-massive grid connections. Those upgrades often fall on the general public.
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Yes, I'm sure they do; I'm suggesting that maybe instead of banning data centers altogether, the state and/or utility could... not let those upgrades fall on the public and instead require the data center builders to foot that bill?
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Note they only temporarily ban it, which would buy them time to work out details precisely like what you say.
Such restrictions to manage the impact can take time to work out, moreso if all the business interests involved benefit by stalling establishing and enforcing such nuanced measures. If the status quo is build without worry and consequence, it's very hard to subtly move things toward still building, but with more responsibility and accountability.
If there is a moratorium, then the business interests h
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Agreed. I wish people would stop treating data centers as bogeymen. Most people aren't opposed to data centers per se, they're opposed to the side-effects. They're concerned about the energy usage and its effect on consumer energy rates. They're concerned about water usage. They're concerned about noise. They're concerned about heat pollution in the surrounding environment.
The thing is, all those things (with the possible exception of heat pollution) are fixable! They just take money and regulators with t
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Some of the concerns are fundamental.
They tend to prefer getting rid of farmland or forests. Maybe if they tended to target abandoned retail spaces like dead malls and shopping centers, maybe they wouldn't be so bad.
Especially since the current frenzy is a bunch of competitors of whom only some will likely survive a correction in the market. Hell, even without investment failures, a large number of these projects are plagued by logistics issues stemming from people eagerly making commitments they could ha
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"Require closed-loop cooling instead of evaporative."
Then you get big fans that sound like a WW2 propellor-driven 4-engine bomber making racket 24/7/365 as actual fans force the not-all-that-cool air (here in Texas, anyway, where ambient can be 106 degrees Mid July to late September) and drive everyone absolutely over the edge.
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That's the beauty of data, you can put the data center somewhere far from where the data is used. Put it somewhere appropriate, not Texas or other places that are high on ambient heat and low on water.
I've been wondering if geothermal might be a solution, only use the ground as a heat sink instead of a heat source. Here in Michigan's Upper Peninsula the abandoned mines stay at 40F all year round, regardless of the air temperature. Place the servers in the mine, drill some cooling loops into the rock. I do