Neuroscientist's AI-Powered Startup Aims To Transform Human Cognition With Perfect, Infinite Memory (msn.com)
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- News link: https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/26/04/12/0640253/neuroscientists-ai-powered-startup-aims-to-transform-human-cognition-with-perfect-infinite-memory
- Source link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/harvard-s-kreiman-seeks-100-million-to-build-ai-memory-tech/ar-AA20BT75
"For the past 20 years, I studied how the human brain stores and retrieves memories," [2]Kreiman writes on LinkedIn . And now "My co-founder Spandan Madan and I built a new algorithm to endow humans with perfect and infinite memory."
> [3] Engramme connects to your **memorome**, i.e., entire digital life. Large Memory Models work in the same way that your brain encodes and retrieves information. Then memories are recalled automatically — no searching, no prompting, no hallucinations. [The startup's web site promises " [4]omniscient AI to augment human cognition ."]
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> We have built the memory layer for EVERY app. Read our [5]manifesto about augmenting human cognition . ["We are not just building software; we are enabling a complete transformation of human cognition. When the friction disappears between needing a piece of information and recalling it, the nature of thought itself changes. This synergy between biological intuition and digital precision will be the most disruptive force in modern history, fundamentally reshaping every profession... We are dedicated to creating a world where everyone has the power to remember everything they have ever learned, seen, or felt "]
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> Welcome to a new future where you can remember everything. This is the MEMORY SINGULARITY: after 300,000 years, this is the moment that humans stop forgetting.
Bloomberg reports that the startup (spun out of a lab at Harvard) is "in talks with investors to raise about $100 million, according to people familiar with the matter."
[1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/harvard-s-kreiman-seeks-100-million-to-build-ai-memory-tech/ar-AA20BT75
[2] https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kreiman_humanity-has-been-fighting-the-problem-of-activity-7448040839798296576-hrEb
[3] https://www.engramme.com/
[4] https://www.engramme.com/
[5] https://www.engramme.com/index/the-engramme-manifesto
So let me get this straight... (Score:4, Informative)
I'm doomed to remember the awful, awful date with an attractive woman I really liked, where I shouldn't have had coffee after dinner and we went back to her place, and she only had a curtain for a bathroom door, and I needed to have an explosive dump right now and I had to bolt out of there like an idiot?
In Technicolor?
I won't be able to bury that?
Re:So let me get this straight... (Score:5, Funny)
Neither will she.
Re: So let me get this straight... (Score:2, Redundant)
She won't anyway.
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Well, you could post a story about it online.
"...the nature of thought itself changes. "
It most definitely will not.
This is a Trump-level grift.
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TBH, our brain already does that to us.
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Yes, and in fact.. those with exceptional memory tend to have OCD and accessing those memories cause emotional trauma similar to when the memory was first recorded. They also tend to have problems with relationships...
Marilu Henner with Bob Costas...
[1]https://youtu.be/UidGrceG5Z8?s... [youtu.be]
60 minutes episode on Superior Autobiographical Memory..
[2]https://youtu.be/q3PuQ4Gzx3w?s... [youtu.be]
[1] https://youtu.be/UidGrceG5Z8?si=BKh0dDHZgUcaQ7B9&t=56
[2] https://youtu.be/q3PuQ4Gzx3w?si=RX1GhWjDx1LURU6-
Re: So let me get this straight... (Score:2)
Those are some great videos. Thanks for the cites!
Enjoy Your Meal! (Score:2)
"You too!" x âz
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There was an infinity symbol there, forgot the slashdot code hasn't been touched in Ãz years.
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Anyway, writes on linkedin is synonymous with just flat out lying.
Re: Enjoy Your Meal! (Score:1)
Don't worry, someone will invent Unicode soon.
Let's build... (Score:2)
...another bubble.
What could go wrong? (Score:3)
> When the friction disappears between needing a piece of information and recalling it, the nature of thought itself changes.
Ah, doesn't that sound grand and noble! But do we really want it? What we have currently has evolved over millennia. I don't trust anybody - never mind tech bros - to mess with it. Especially not when further concentration of wealth is their real goal.
> This synergy between biological intuition and digital precision will be the most disruptive force in modern history, fundamentally reshaping every profession...
Oh great! Those who would shape the evolution of human thinking can't even be bothered to talk seriously about their own mission. They recycled some trendy wording stolen from an old corporate HR memo, and used it to represent their "revolutionary" idea. These are clearly NOT serious people.
> We are dedicated to creating a world where everyone has the power to remember everything they have ever learned, seen, or felt
Never mind "dedicated". Instead, you must be "committed". And the sooner we can get you committed to the psych facility you clearly need, the better. That might stop you from scamming credulous investors in what looks an awful lot like the pseudo-intellectual equivalent of a pump 'n' dump scheme.
These days, it really is true that most of the so-called "substance" behind our financial markets is in fact inferior self-aggrandizing Madison Avenue ad copy that sounds like the product of an extended trip on 'shrooms. Yay Capitalism!
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> the fact our waste management system and reproductive system are so closely intertwined.
Could be [1]worse [wikipedia.org].
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaca
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All good points - thanks for the fresh perspective.
That said, even with the flaws you pointed out, we manage to make what evolution handed to us actually work. I fear that the compressed time frames and the lack of "try before you buy" that come with our attempts to fool Mother Nature may backfire.
I totally get the desire to
> take our improvements out of the hands of evolution and put it solidly into ours
, but I don't trust that desire. That's probably because I don't trust mankind's wisdom. After all, that very wisdom is a product of the same evolution which gave us the
> need to breath through the same orifice we have to shove liquids and large chunks of solids into
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The dude invented the hash table and wants someone to give him 100 million dollars for it (to start). How's he supposed to do that without some verbal razzle dazzle?
Re: What could go wrong? (Score:1)
"I'm sorry, this memory has been redacted"
I want the opposite. (Score:2)
I want to be able to temporarily forget things. Imagine being able to watch your favourite film as if it were the first time.
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Also, same old jokes still work.
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We've had that for thousands of years, at least since the dawn of agriculture. The hangover or other side effects can be a bit rough though.
I saw this episode of Black Mirror already... (Score:2)
It didn't end well.
Hollywood got there first (Score:3)
"Brainstorm" (1983) Douglas Trumbull dir. : Christopher Walken and Natalie Wood (her last movie). A device records experience and memory from one brain, and allows it to be played back into another. Someone records sex, splices an orgasm loop, and is disabled by overload (like a Niven "wirehead"). A sinister government project is formed to exploit the technology. Someone records a psychotic; someone else finds the tape labelled "Toxic" and plays it anyway.
See also "They Saved Hitler's Brain" (1968).
The implication being (Score:2)
You'd have to wear some always-on video recording device, and the AI would be listening to everything, watching everything, and understanding everything happening to you (in the cloud no doubt), and then remembering it, and then prompting you with memories when it feels they're appropriate to your current situation? Sounds like a bit of a stretch, technology-wise, and privacy-wise. One for the cyborgs, maybe.
Re: The implication being (Score:1)
Not everything - not the feeling of holding hands etc.
1. Do publicly-funded research
2. Go private with 'your' knowledge
3. Profit?
Sounds Like Snake Oil (Score:2)
This sounds like a scam. Real scientific products have real science behind them, and they trumpet their science. This has ... biz-speak.
And no, I do not believe in that any "new algorithm" can "endow humans with perfect and infinite memory." If it sounds too good ...
ads (Score:4, Funny)
All of the sudden I remember that I urgently need to extend my car's warranty...
The critical importance of forgetting (Score:4, Informative)
Rather than try to paraphrase, let me point to [1]The Importance of Forgetting | Episteme | Cambridge Core [cambridge.org] and [2]Why forgetting is beneficial [bbc.com] and [3]Why Forgetting is Good for Your Memory [columbiapsychiatry.org] among many, MANY other sources that easy to find with a search.
If you don't want to read those, here's the TL;DR version: forgetting isn't a bug; it's a feature. It serves a critical function in our cognition, and it has evolved to serve that function over millions of years.
These idiots are trying to tamper with natural forces that they don't understand and don't respect, and they're doing it with zero regard for the consequences to human society. Just like Crichton's scientists in Jurassic Park , there's no humility, only ambition and greed.
[1] https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/episteme/article/importance-of-forgetting/62F3162009892011E6CCA49ACB6A416A
[2] https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240514-why-forgetting-is-beneficial
[3] https://www.columbiapsychiatry.org/news/why-forgetting-good-your-memory
Wait! What? (Score:2)
Are they trying to invent the perfect robotic wife?
Meaninglessness (Score:2)
We remember things because they are meaningful to us. If we remember everything that nothing will be meaningful, and our souls will be as flat as the screens that we stare at all day.
My prediction (Score:3)
"in talks with investors to raise about $100 million"
An infinite memory s going to take an infinite amount of money.
Re: My prediction (Score:1)
Sshh, let's get them on the hook first then let sunk cost fallacy + greed work their magic.
Perfect, Infinite Memory... (Score:2)
...of stuff that doesn't matter
Imperfect, limited, ordinary memory for the important stuff
\o/ (Score:1)
That sounds awesome. How much of it is doable before the investors have been bled dry?
Obvious Scam (Score:2)
These fuckers learned absolutely nothing from Theranos or the other medtech scam startups, did they?
Oh, the hubris (Score:2)
You have to forget things.. it's matter of priorities, all things cannot vie for your attention at the same time. Not many people want to have total recall, it causes psychological problems. Like the promise of extended lifespans, a lot of people will admit the are bored and won't know how to use infinite time. They'll kill themselves . See Time Enough for Love, Robert Heinlein
How to maintain traumas forever (Score:2)
Remember that root-canal treatment you needed five years ago? Yeah, now you can! Including all the extreme pain because the dentist could not anesthetize because it was infected.
Or how about perfectly remembering getting raped?
Yeah, that'll help create some phobias.
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"Or how about perfectly remembering getting raped?"
I suspect rape victims have excellent recall already. But Jerry Falwell would certainly what to regulate memories of such things, dependent on who's doing the raping and who's doing the suffering, of course.
Doesn't matter, won't happen. It's a grift, nothing more. Maybe Sam Altman can buy it, charity that he is.
I would be happy (Score:5, Funny)
With forgetting I just read all that.
What could possibly go wrong? (Score:2)
You could beat me to the joke.
I actually think it's an interesting story in terms of aging, but wouldn't it be nicer to stay with the memories of peak happiness? Too much of the recent stuff strikes me as unpleasant or insane or both...