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There's 50% Fewer Young Employees at Tech Companies Now Than Two Years Ago (fortune.com)

(Monday September 08, 2025 @03:34AM (EditorDavid) from the gen-Z-vs-genAI dept.)


An anonymous reader shared [1]this report from Fortune :

> The percentage of young Gen Z employees between the ages of 21 and 25 has been cut in half at technology companies over the past two years, according [2]to recent data from compensation management software business Pave with workforce data from more than 8,300 companies.

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> These young workers accounted for 15% of the workforce at large public tech firms in January 2023. By August 2025, they only represented 6.8%. The situation isn't pretty at big private tech companies, either — during that same time period, the proportion of early-career Gen Z employees dwindled from 9.3% to 6.8%. Meanwhile, the average age of a worker at a tech company has risen dramatically over those two and a half years. Between January 2023 and July 2025, the average age of all employees at large public technology businesses rose from 34.3 years to 39.4 years — more than a five year difference. On the private side, the change was less drastic, with the typical age only increasing from 35.1 to 36.6 years old...

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> "If you're 35 or 40 years old, you're pretty established in your career, you have skills that you know cannot yet be disrupted by AI," Matt Schulman, founder and CEO of Pave, tells Fortune. "There's still a lot of human judgment when you're operating at the more senior level...If you're a 22-year-old that used to be an Excel junkie or something, then that can be disrupted. So it's almost a tale of two cities." Schulman points to a few reasons why tech company workforces are getting older and locking Gen Z out of jobs. One is that big companies — like Salesforce, Meta, and Microsoft — are becoming a lot more efficient thanks to the advent of AI. And despite their soaring trillion-dollar profits, they're [3]cutting employees at the bottom rungs in [4]favor of automation . Entry-level jobs have also dwindled because of AI agents, and stalling promotions across many agencies looking to do more with less. Once technology companies weed out junior roles, occupied by Gen Zers, their workforces are bound to rise in age.

Schulman tells Fortune Gen Z also has an advantage: that tech corporations can see them as fresh talent that "can just break the rules and leverage AI to a much greater degree without the hindrance of years of bias." And Priya Rathod, workplace trends editor for LinkedIn, tells Fortune there's promising tech-industry entry roles in AI ethics, cybersecurity, UX, and product operations. "Building skills through certifications, gig work, and online communities can open doors....

"For Gen Z, the right certifications or micro credentials can outweigh a lack of years on the resume. This helps them stay competitive even when entry level opportunities shrink."



[1] https://fortune.com/2025/09/07/silicon-valley-gen-z-tech-industry-jobs-dissappearing-millennials-ai-automation-careers-older-workforce/

[2] https://www.linkedin.com/posts/matt-schulman-15911861_the-percentage-of-21-25-year-olds-at-large-activity-7361070844892106754-dEVV/

[3] https://fortune.com/2025/09/02/salesforce-ceo-billionaire-marc-benioff-ai-agents-jobs-layoffs-customer-service-sales/

[4] https://fortune.com/2025/07/16/tech-layoffs-2025-how-microsoft-google-meta-amazon/



Is it AI? (Score:2)

by phantomfive ( 622387 )

It's really hard to know how much of this is because of AI, and how much of it is because of reduced skills due to COVID era education policies. Then there is this factor cited in the article:

> "Gen Z is prioritizing flexible working, job stability and work-life balance—something the tech industry may not be able to offer—so they’re applying to roles in different industries. ”

Half the articles are saying that young people are using AI more efficiently than old people. More data is needed before reaching the conclusion stated by the headline.

Re: (Score:2)

by bleedingobvious ( 6265230 )

> young people are using AI more efficiently

Frequency should not be conflated with efficiency.

Re: (Score:2)

by phantomfive ( 622387 )

Of course my way of using AI is the best of all, but [1]here is one assessment [yahoo.com]:

> “The difference is unbelievable” in how a 20-year-old might use ChatGPT versus older generations, Altman said during the Sequoia talk. “It reminds me of, like, when the smartphone came out, and, like, every kid was able to use it super well,” Altman said. “And older people, just like, took, like, three years to figure out how to do basic stuff.”

I don't know the best way to quantify "effective AI use."

[1] https://tech.yahoo.com/ai/articles/openai-ceo-sam-altman-says-163151359.html

Different industries? Good luck with that (Score:2)

by Viol8 ( 599362 )

If you've got some IT related degree its not going to be much use to you applying for some fluffy easy-life by low pay job such as in marketing or sales.

Or I guess they could become "digital nomads", AKA kidults stuck in a permanent gap year earning a pittance doing miscellanious online shit from a hut in Thailand.

Possible some of Gen-Z need a reality check - ie sometimes life is unflxeible, hard and you have to make life sacrifices to get ahead.

Time to join unions (Score:3)

by Bruce66423 ( 1678196 )

I've a complicated history here. As a Brit growing up in the 1970s when the unions made life miserable with power cuts and high inflation because of their demands, I was not a fan. Yet by 2000 I was a union representative following my public sector employer's attempt to enforce massive pay cuts on some staff as a result of a 'job evaluation' exercise. I joined at that point. A few years later the existing rep moved to a new job outside the IT section and I got the gig.

On a good day unions can ensure the better operation of the firm. They enable concerns to be transmitted upwards and challenges raised. Unfortunately too often they get too powerful, start to throw their weight around, and do things that are destructive of the firm in the long term. I had opportunities to be obstructive for the sake of it - but resisted. But I did challenge crass behaviour to good effect at times.

The IT industry didn't need unions because the demand for our skills meant that we could easily move on. Now it's getting tougher and firms will be tempted to bully staff because they don't have an easy alternative: 'Unpaid overtime, unpaid on call time, etc. etc. So - given the option - join. Use the power wisely.

I'm retired now - and very grateful I'm not facing this crisis. Best of luck!

Re: (Score:2)

by phantomfive ( 622387 )

There are benefits and drawbacks of joining unions, but general layoffs are a leading indicator that unions should be considered.

Well, that's ONE way to look at it (Score:4, Insightful)

by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 )

> Schulman tells Fortune Gen Z also has an advantage: that tech corporations can see them as fresh talent that "can just break the rules and leverage AI to a much greater degree without the hindrance of years of bias."

The alternative interpretation is - older workers have a more realistic view of what AI actually can and can't do, and thus are more aware that the higher-ups' AI usage goals are full of crap. Gen Z, on the other hand, doesn't know any better.

Re: (Score:2)

by Viol8 ( 599362 )

" the higher-ups' AI usage goals are full of crap"

Any company thats led by its marketing dept and/or the bean counters and ignores the engineers is doomed to eventual failure/breakup unless its saved by government.

See: Boeing, HP, most US car makers.

Skills. (Score:2)

by msauve ( 701917 )

"you're pretty established in your career, you have skills that you know cannot yet be disrupted by AI,"

OTOH, if your inexperienced, incompetent, incomprehensible, and/or inconsistent, AI does all of that well and you can be replaced.

Different priorities (Score:1)

by devslash0 ( 4203435 )

What if the workforce is dwindling because instead of getting proper jobs GenZ are only interested in pointless jobs like being influencers, streamers, gamers?

ENOUGH with the pseudo-AI stuff (Score:1)

by gavron ( 1300111 )

TL;DR - if it can't provide consistent rersults nor be held responsible, "AI" will never replace humans.

E

Long version:

LLMs regurgitate previously spewed stuff (including from other LLMs) which they pretend to analyze.

Unfortunately this analysis yields inconsistent responses, so an LLM's answer to YOU may be different

than its answer to me. Further, sometimes they just create fiction our of nothing, which we RATIONALIZE

and PRETEND is "hallucination."

Software algorithms do not hallucinate. Software algorithm

It is Ai (Score:2)

by monkeyxpress ( 4016725 )

Look, I'm with everyone that the AI stuff is absolute hype, but when I started my career as an engineer, there were so many mundane jobs that grads did. I remember doing PCB layout for test jigs for quite a while - it was mostly pretty braindead, loading in component pinouts and then laying out tracks. But it's a job that needed to be done and in the process, you learnt a lot about the product development process and became integrated into the company.

Those sorts of jobs are either outsourced or automated (

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