Philips Hue Plans To Make All Your Lights Motion Sensors (theverge.com)
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- News link: https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/25/09/04/2138217/philips-hue-plans-to-make-all-your-lights-motion-sensors
- Source link: https://www.theverge.com/smart-home/768585/philips-hue-motion-aware-rf-sensing-lights-motion-ivani
> To create a MotionAware motion-sensing zone, you need Hue's new Bridge Pro and at least three Hue devices in a room. It works with all new and most existing mains-powered Hue products via a firmware update. That includes smart bulbs, light strips, and fixtures. Portable devices, such as the Hue Go or Table Lamp, and battery-powered accessories, such as Hue switches, aren't compatible. Neither is Hue's current smart plug. [...] "All of the functionality you get with our physical motion sensors -- including turning on when motion is detected or off when there's been no movement for a certain amount of time -- can be configured on motion-aware motion events," says George Yianni, Hue CTO and founder, in an interview with The Verge. "We've done something that's quite a lot better than what else is out there."
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> MotionAware is occupancy sensing, not presence sensing; it requires movement. Yianni says it's comparable to the passive infrared sensing (PIR) Hue's physical sensors use. This means it can be triggered by pets or other motion. A sensitivity slider in the app helps fine-tune detection. According to Yianni, a key benefit over PIR is that a MotionAware zone can cover a larger area than a single PIR sensor, and it's also not limited to line of sight. MotionAware can't sense light levels, which Hue Motion Sensors can, but you can pair a light sensor to a motion zone to feed it that data. The positioning of the lights will also play a role in determining the effectiveness of the motion sensing. "We recommend that the lights surround an area which will roughly define the detection area in which motion will be detected," says Yianni. "It will sense around the lights and in the broader room thanks to reflections, but detection reliability will depend on lots of factors."
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> Beyond lighting automation, MotionAware can also integrate with Hue Secure, Hue's DIY security platform that includes cameras, contact sensors, and a new video doorbell. Motion detection can trigger lights to flash red, activate Hue's new plug-in chime/siren, and send an alert to your phone with a button to call emergency services. [...] MotionAware is built on RF sensing -- a technology that uses wireless signals to "see" a space and detect disruptions within it. The data is then sent to the Bridge Pro, where AI algorithms are applied to figure out what is causing those disruptions, so the system can act accordingly. This is why it's limited to the Bridge Pro, the V2 bridge isn't powerful enough to run those algorithms, says Yianni.
[1] https://www.theverge.com/smart-home/768585/philips-hue-motion-aware-rf-sensing-lights-motion-ivani
Phillips drop their hardware and don't open source (Score:4, Informative)
Phillips have a long history of selling hardware that relies on their servers, then getting bored of supporting it and shutting down the servers and not open sourcing it, making the the hardware you bought useless.
Don't buy Phillips.
Re:Phillips drop their hardware and don't open sou (Score:4, Informative)
Did you miss where these now support matter over thread? Long after philips is dead and gone, these lights will still pair, hub free, via this open standard to any thread border router you wish to pair them to.
they've also enabled the vast backlog of their old hubs to route their old lights to Matter over Wifi, so once support for THOSE ends, they will continue functioning in that way as well (the hub wont get software patches anymore, but should keep on truckin')
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Phillips Hue bulbs have been out for over 12 years and can still be used today using either their hub or a 3rd party zigbee hub with no server.
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Actually quite the opposite. I have several friends who have Philips Hue lights throughout their houses and have for over a decade had ones that still have full functionality and have outlasted virtually all non-smart LED bulbs I've bought. Most everyone I know replaces their lights because the electronics give up not because of functionality.
The only incompatibility Philips introduced was with one bridge a while ago, but upgrading the bridge allowed the old lights to work just fine on new systems along wit
Your lights knew what your were doing in your room (Score:4, Funny)
I'm all for adding 25MP cameras to lights as well.
"Plans to Make All Your Lights" (Score:3)
They can plan all they want. You're not touching any of my lights.
Re:"Plans to Make All Your Lights" (Score:4, Informative)
Zigbee's safe, it is not routable across your network, it requires a Zigbee hub. Devices typically don't have any kind of registration process other than putting them in pairing mode and telling the hub to look for them.
Now the hub, that you're going to have to be careful with. THAT can call home.
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Yes, to me this reads like a threat. Stay away from my property. If I want your lights I'll call *you*, OK?
Zigbee, hubs and thread/matter, z-wave (Score:2)
Zigbee is a sort of open standard. You can use the lights with any hub and the hub can be open source. Only the hub can connect to the internet.
Now Thread allows routing over IPv6. So your Thread devices can talk to the internet.
Think of Z-wave as the thing you want, no internet connection, home network with all your devices.
zigbee is the better version of Z-wave but with a terrible vendor association.
Matter is a slightly improved zigbee application layer that runs on UDP
Thread is a networking la