US Signals Intention To Rethink Job H-1B Lottery (theregister.com)
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- News link: https://news.slashdot.org/story/25/07/21/2226250/us-signals-intention-to-rethink-job-h-1b-lottery
- Source link: https://www.theregister.com/2025/07/20/h_1b_job_lottery/
> The notice, filed on Thursday with the US Office of Management and Budget's Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA), seeks the statutory review of a proposed rule titled "Weighted Selection Process for Registrants and Petitioners Seeking To File Cap-Subject H-1B Petitions."
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> Once the review is complete, which could be a matter of days or weeks, the text of the rule is expected to be published in the US Federal Register. Based on the rule title, it appears the government intends to change the system for allocating H-1B visas the current lottery to some system that will favor applicants who meet specified criteria, possibly related to skills.
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> The H-1B visa program, which reached its Fiscal 2026 cap on Friday, allows skilled guest workers to come work in the US. As of 2019, there were about 600,000 H-1B workers in the US, according to USCIS. The foreign worker program is beloved by technology companies, ostensibly to hire talent not readily available from American workers. But H-1B -- along with the Optional Practical Training (OPT) program -- has long been criticized for making it easier to undercut US worker wages, limiting labor rights for immigrants, and for persistent abuse of the rules by outsourcing companies.
[1] https://www.theregister.com/2025/07/20/h_1b_job_lottery/
Current US politics... (Score:2)
With Donald Trump playing games, I am sure he will make sure that prostitutes will be able to come in on the visa program and squeeze out actual skilled workers.
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The only qualified person he ever hired was Stormy Daniels and of course she was paid with company money.
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We’re all aware of Kamala’s education. Cheeto’s grades are so embarrassing he threatened to sue the school if they were released. [1]https://apnews.com/article/04f... [apnews.com]
But hey keep talking about dicks in mouths with zero amount of projection.
[1] https://apnews.com/article/04f0236264e8427d9995e4de68e62729
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you can just say "i'm a virgin" and save yourself the typing
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More likely this will give the Trump administration the ability to pick and choose which types of h-1b's get favored so that he can give his friends... Who am I getting Trump doesn't have friends the people bribing him preferential treatment.
Every single thing this administration does is designed to structure power so that we're that much closer to a dictatorship. That's what project 2025 is about. I've no doubt this is just part of that.
Re:Current US politics... (Score:5, Insightful)
> bullshit. Everything 2025 is about actually gives power to people who are accountable to voters, rather to deep state bureaucrats.
> Look at the legal wranglings with all these 'independent' agencies and what not. How is having people often appointed by out of power administrations (because the lost elections!) continuing to make administrative law and effect policy the public reject compatible with democracy.
> Democrats, are presently papering over this basic reality with a lot of frilly language like "norms", and trying argue for separation of powers where none exists, we have five entities in that regard Constitutionally speaking the legislature, the executive, the judiciary, the States, and the people. There are no others. There CFPB/NLRB/CBP etc does not show up anywhere in the Constitution.
> You are not defending 'democracy' you are defending bureaucracy where elections don't matter!
> Its really sad, how badly bamboozled you are. Project 2025 is what can save this nation! It is about government by the people not perishing from the earth!
I can't tell if this is satire or you went so far off the end and looped back around.
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If you want to change the structure of the CFPB, PASS A FUCKING LAW THROUGH CONGRESS. You know, so that the people's will is represented. You seem to think that is important.
Right now, Wells Fargo and others are celebrating the destruction of the CPFP. And they only had to bribe one guy with a few crypto coins to get that.
Re:Current US politics... (Score:5, Insightful)
> How is having people often appointed by out of power administrations (because the lost elections!) continuing to make administrative law and effect policy the public reject compatible with democracy.
Because outside of the cabinet the rest of the government are public employees and it's not good or practical to replace thousands of people every 4 years for no reason other than personal politics. You've just created the most "bureaucratic" administrative nightmare possible.
> There CFPB/NLRB/CBP etc does not show up anywhere in the Constitution.
You should try reading it and then maybe you would know the Constitution is not the actual law, that would be the [1]US Statutory Code [govinfo.gov] and the Constitution is the framework and limiting principles. All those agencies were passed legally through legislation and the USSC had ruled on them therefore Constitutional. We believe in laws around here right?
> You are not defending 'democracy' you are defending bureaucracy where elections don't matter!
This argument of "just say bureaucracy" and letting that replace actual thinking is ruinous for brains and the nation. When people make these big broad sweeping generalizations anybody with critical thinking should be extremely suspicious since its all fluff, no examples given, no actual reforms given. This adds nothing.
[1] https://www.govinfo.gov/app/collection/uscode
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The constitution very much is the law. About the only things it gives Congress any administrative power over is the creation of courts and the post office. Everything else is the responsibility of the executive to implement. Congress simply cannot establish 'independent agencies' it does not have that power.
> Because outside of the cabinet the rest of the government are public employees and it's not good or practical to replace thousands of people every 4 years for no reason other than personal politics. You've just created the most "bureaucratic" administrative nightmare possible.
Well I disagree entirely. We should have pure spoils system at the federal level. The federal government should simply not be so big and complex this is actually a problem. In fact about 98% of the
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You really should be tested for dementia or possibly heavy metal poisoning.
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Hey, I heard Pam Blondy will be meeting Ghislaine Maxwell in prison.
Any idea why, when it was already declared the Epstein files are a hoax?
Lottery (Score:1)
You mean getting the visa lottery or getting thrown out of the country lottery? The visa is already totally useless.
Charges: what's an H1-B worth? (Score:4, Insightful)
la Presidenta is entirely transactional. He thinks of the fed. gov. as holding something others want, hence they will be required to pay for it. He won't care whether companies or the individual pays, but he'll announce it as though the individual always pays.
Example: la Presidenta announced he would give more arms to Ukraine but then constrained them in two ways. (1) they won't get them before Putin's 60-day limit he told la Presidenta he needed to steal more of Ukraine, and (2) he is making Europe pay for the arms.
So in effect, it will be Europe giving more arms to Ukraine after he's paid off Putin for being his homicidal maniac who is fun to be with. And of course he announced to the corporate press that he's arming Ukraine and they blandly regurgitated that bullshit.
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America has 2 main geopolitical rivals, we voted in the tough guy, the ruthess businessman, the Art of the Deal Master Negotiator and both Xi and Putin have run circles around him, made him and all of us look stupid [1]("Vladimir Stop!") [pbs.org].
Also 90 deals in 90 days? We are sitting at 0-90. But hey they sent some letters out.
[1] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/vladimir-stop-trump-posts-rare-criticism-of-putin-after-deadly-attack-on-kyiv
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> we voted in the tough guy, the ruthess businessman, the Art of the Deal Master Negotiator
No, we (as a country, not me personally) voted in the weak guy, the failed businessman and the poor negotiator (he didn't even write the book).
> and both Xi and Putin have run circles around him, made him and all of us look stupid ("Vladimir Stop!").
Entirely predictable outcome. Anyone with half a brain could see that this would happen, that Trump isn't a businessman, isn't a negotiator. But unfortunately, too many people in the USA don't have half a brain.
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EU doesn't have the obligations to Ukraine that the traitorous Trumpistan has.
Unlike the traitorous Trumpistan, the UK, which has the same obligations, has delivered.
See the difference?
Nah, your lot still believes NATO somehow cheated you out of the Soviet Union.
Replace Sponsorship with Candidate Portal Auction (Score:5, Interesting)
Break company sponsorship of H1B visa recipient. Put all candidates and their skills in a sort of portal. Let US companies bid on them and have the pay verifiably go through a department, perhaps commerce or labor. If the bids do not reach 175% of the level of what US citizens with similar experience are getting for those skills, no visa for that candidate. Visa holders can be bid on every 3 months, for their skills matrix. This ends the indentured servant portion, and ends the secret $8/hour actual wages facade.
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That kind of defeats the purpose of bringing in people who have specific skills. Furthermore, as a former H1b myself, I know that the salary has to satisfy the Department of Labor's prevailing wage. If you want to make the salary threshold higher, no need to turn it in to an auction, just set the bar higher.
I decided the US wasn't for me after three years and moved overseas. I then worked 1099-MISC for another American company for four years (until it was bought by a company with an international office
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Do you mean the O-1 Visa?
> To qualify for an O-1 visa, you must demonstrate extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics, or extraordinary achievement in motion pictures or television. This requires evidence of sustained national or international acclaim, meaning you are one of the small percentage at the top of your field. You must also be coming to the U.S. to continue working in your area of expertise
Everyone seems believe H1-B's requirements are that of the O-1. But H1-B
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No. I was replying to somebody who wrote about H1b and I had an H1b in the late 90s. Not sure if anything's changed in the requirements since then, but it wasn't just an any old route in to the US. It was a bit of pain all around. Probably not worth the hassle of the expense and time to apply for one, unless there's no enforcement of the prevailing wage requirements for example and it really is used for undercutting local talent. I was certainly on a fair wage at the time.
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I recommend reading up on the current situation that's been around for over a decade. Things have changed in the almost 30 years since you used the program.
The majority of H1-B visas are used by have a handful of consulting firms that under pay their staff. Many require managerial kick backs and staff are staying 4-5 if not more to an apartment or condo. H1-B recipients can change jobs why finding a new corporate sponsor. But many are unable to so the choice is keep working and living in the subpar conditio
A simple fix? (Score:5, Insightful)
Make the minimum salary always be double (or even more) the average American salary. That way it filters out the hiring of "slave labor", prevents Americans from illegally losing their jobs via the corruptible system and automatically adjusts over time, versus having a fixed number. If the imports are supposedly that special, this should not be a problem.
consequences exist (Score:2)
America has a long history of bringing immigrants in on the ground floor to lift up the working class beneath them. It has been the main source of class mobility in this country for centuries.
Having native born, and mostly white, Americans do all the shit jobs and never moving up in the world. While skilled immigrants come into live in nice houses and drive nice cars. That's a recipe for civil unrest and far right populism.
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Why would companies bring someone in if they were able to hire two citizens for the same wage?
H1-B is being abused to out source and bring in a bunch of cheap labor. Take away the "cheap" factor and things change.
Besides the increased wage requirement, having every H1-B position require companies to also pay into a system that trains citizens on the needed skills would over time solve the issue that there's no one local with the needed abilities.
Difficulty (Score:2)
Problem is that median wage is a useless number. Wages vary all over the country. Wages are higher in San Francisco and lower in Pittsburg.
IMHO a better solution is to make the tax rate something like 60% with no deductions. If you want take-home pay to be $40,000, you have to pay them $100,000.
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Good point. X times the local average wage? X times the industry average? The tax idea could work, but I'm not fond of making the tax system even more complex.
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Simple fix: award H1-B visas in order of salary to be paid to the visa holder.
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I don't follow you... Maybe because I'm just a bland American worker bee. :)
How about limiting the number at any one company? (Score:3)
If you look at employment statistics, three of the top 5 are consulting firms, primarily IT. Setting a cap on H1B visas any company can have or get in a year would encourage them to look for talent they can keep long term as well as make more available for other companies. Allowing H1B holders to more easily change jobs, outlawing exit fees if they leave, etc. would also go a long way to, IMHO, making the system better or all concerned.
It's Peter Griffin Pulled Over (Score:2)
[gov't looks at skin color chart]
The real reason why companies like the H-1B visa (Score:2)
Comes down to American labor laws.
Unlike the rest of the world American labor laws are an abomination:
1. No limits on working time. Salaried employees end up volunteering for the company they work for after 40 hours. If they don't work this unpaid overtime, they will be subject to progressive discipline up to and including termination.
2. America uses the "Employment-at-will" doctrine instead of just cause. This means you can be terminated for any reason so long as it isn't an illegal reason. What defines an
Whoever applies for an H-1B today is bonkers (Score:2)
might end up in a Salvadorian concentration camp in less time than it takes to say "Oh, what are these armed, masked men surrounding me for?"
Easier on the Ice, Ice Baby. (Score:2)
They want to figure out how to pre-deport people, rather than giving them entry status, then revoking it after they've settled in. Saves on the masked ICE raids.
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Well, I don't know about that, but we certainly aren't the best nation when it comes to educating our kids.
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> Well, I don't know about that, but we certainly aren't the best nation when it comes to educating our kids.
My teachers ejucated me good.
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Cheeto wants to dissolve the department of education and look who he currently has running it. An elderly CEO of a wrestling company who doesn't know artificial intelligence from steak sauce. [1]https://www.usatoday.com/story... [usatoday.com]
Here grandma, read this statement for the media...
Best and brightest and all that.
[1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/12/linda-mcmahon-a1-instead-of-ai/83059797007/
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I personally see very little use for the Department of Education, so removing it would be fine by me. I think what little good they do could easily be done by the states and that's where it should be done (not by the feds).
You also have to look back and see why we got a D-o-Ed. It came during the Carter administration in 1979. He created it to get the "teacher vote" for the 1980 election -- which he lost anyway. We never had that dept before and really didn't need it. So while I don't care for Trump, removi
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> I personally see very little use for the Department of Education, so removing it would be fine by me. I think what little good they do could easily be done by the states and that's where it should be done (not by the feds).
All that does is give states like Kansas a pass to plaster the 10 commandments everywhere and do away with science because it contradicts their beliefs. Funny how that argument stops when you want to display passages from the Quran. Oh you have a problem with pausing class to pray towards Mecca? The country needs minimum standards.
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Support the Satanic Temple. Fair is fair, get those Baphomet statues in the schools.
[1]https://thesatanictemple.com/ [thesatanictemple.com]
[1] https://thesatanictemple.com/