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Jupiter Was Formerly Twice Its Current Size and Had a Much Stronger Magnetic Field (phys.org)

(Wednesday May 21, 2025 @03:00AM (BeauHD) from the primordial-state dept.)


A new study reveals that about 3.8 million years after the solar system's first solids formed, Jupiter was [1]twice its current size with a magnetic field 50 times stronger , profoundly influencing the structure of the early solar system. Phys.Org reports:

> [Konstantin Batygin, professor of planetary science at Caltech] and [Fred C. Adams, professor of physics and astronomy at the University of Michigan] approached this question by studying Jupiter's tiny moons Amalthea and Thebe, which orbit even closer to Jupiter than Io, the smallest and nearest of the planet's four large Galilean moons. Because Amalthea and Thebe have slightly tilted orbits, Batygin and Adams analyzed these small orbital discrepancies to calculate Jupiter's original size: approximately twice its current radius, with a predicted volume that is the equivalent of over 2,000 Earths. The researchers also determined that Jupiter's magnetic field at that time was approximately 50 times stronger than it is today.

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> Adams highlights the remarkable imprint the past has left on today's solar system: "It's astonishing that even after 4.5 billion years, enough clues remain to let us reconstruct Jupiter's physical state at the dawn of its existence." Importantly, these insights were achieved through independent constraints that bypass traditional uncertainties in planetary formation models -- which often rely on assumptions about gas opacity, accretion rate, or the mass of the heavy element core. Instead, the team focused on the orbital dynamics of Jupiter's moons and the conservation of the planet's angular momentum -- quantities that are directly measurable.

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> Their analysis establishes a clear snapshot of Jupiter at the moment the surrounding solar nebula evaporated, a pivotal transition point when the building materials for planet formation disappeared and the primordial architecture of the solar system was locked in. The results add crucial details to existing planet formation theories, which suggest that Jupiter and other giant planets around other stars formed via core accretion, a process by which a rocky and icy core rapidly gathers gas.

The findings have been [2]published in the journal Nature Astronomy .



[1] https://phys.org/news/2025-05-jupiter-current-size-stronger-magnetic.html

[2] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-025-02512-y



Re: (Score:2)

by war4peace ( 1628283 )

Define "untestable hypothesis".

Re:another untestable hypothesis (Score:1)

by Tablizer ( 95088 )

What's the alternative? Stop guessing? History usually leaves clues, and we can make a best guess based on such clues.

WTF happened to all that mass? (Score:1)

by Tablizer ( 95088 )

...I demand a Congressional investigation!

Ionization of the atmosphere via the planet's then extra strong magnetic field? That's a lot of material to ionize away. There should be lots of residue left over somewhere. If it blew inward, our moon should have a record. If it blew outward, then we'd have to land on rocky bodies out there to get samples. Could all that "stuff" be what formed the Oort cloud or Kuiper Belt?

Re: (Score:2)

by pjt33 ( 739471 )

Who said anything about missing mass? The abstract of the paper says that it was accreting mass, not losing it.

Nothing happened to it (Score:2)

by Viol8 ( 599362 )

I presume Jupiter simply cooled down and it shrank. Shame the article doesn't have anything to say on it though.

We all shrink when we age (Score:2)

by nospam007 ( 722110 ) *

It's normal.

Re: (Score:2)

by Tablizer ( 95088 )

Not around the middle. Let's just say our aspect ratio changes.

Re: (Score:2)

by hcs_$reboot ( 1536101 )

In your dreams : )

Re: (Score:1)

by Tablizer ( 95088 )

Because you keep fucking your delux vacuum cleaner.

Citation for the original paper (Score:2)

by Sneftel ( 15416 )

Batygin, K., and Adams, F.C. You Think Jupiter's Big Now: Lemme Tell You, Back In MY Day . In Nat Astron (2025).

Hey Jupiter, you look great, have you lost weight? (Score:1)

by butt0nm4n ( 1736412 )

Jupiter spins slowly so they can see it all and quietly thanks the weight loss jab.

I was so .. gassy .. before, always bloated. I feel great.

Re: (Score:2)

by thesandbender ( 911391 )

I know you're joking but Jupiter is actually the fastest spin planet (in our solar system). It completes a rotation in less than 10 hours, which is crazy fast given it's size.

Re: (Score:2)

by Mr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 )

Obviously that's because it shrunk so much...

[1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQLtcEAG9v0

What would it have taken for it to ignite? (Score:2)

by ndsurvivor ( 891239 )

I think it would have been a cool looking "star" that comes and goes.

Re: (Score:1)

by Tablizer ( 95088 )

Estimates are about 10 to 15x Jupiter's size to become a "brown dwarf" star, so 2x wouldn't do it. I wonder how bright a brown dwarf at Jup's distance would look from Earth? I guesstimate about as bright as the moon, and it probably wouldn't stand out in the day.

Re: (Score:2)

by hcs_$reboot ( 1536101 )

It won't ignite for a number of reasons that have been documented many times.

> I think it would have been a cool looking "star" that comes and goes.

Sure. Having 6 months of light 24/7, like in the poles ... Hard to sleep!

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