Adobe Forces Creative Cloud Users Into Pricier AI-Focused Plan (theverge.com)
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- News link: https://slashdot.org/story/25/05/20/1710222/adobe-forces-creative-cloud-users-into-pricier-ai-focused-plan
- Source link: https://www.theverge.com/news/670241/adobe-ai-creative-cloud-all-apps-pro-increase
The revamped plan includes unlimited generative AI image credits, 4,000 monthly "premium" AI video and audio credits, access to third-party models like OpenAI's GPT, and the beta Firefly Boards collaborative whiteboard. Adobe will also offer a cheaper "Creative Cloud Standard" option at $54.99 monthly with severely reduced AI capabilities, but this plan remains exclusive to existing subscribers -- forcing new customers into the pricier AI-focused tier.
[1] https://www.theverge.com/news/670241/adobe-ai-creative-cloud-all-apps-pro-increase
Keep raising the price why don't you? (Score:1)
Adobe's always been high priced for the features but this is just getting sad.
Just Say No (Score:2)
..to software subscriptions
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> ..to software subscriptions
Good luck with that. There are always going to be things for which an equally-good opensource alternative doesn't exist. And for commercial solutions, vendors invariably want recurring revenue. A similar annoyance - try to find a game for your smartphone that is ad-free and doesn't nag about in-app purchases. I would gladly pay upfront for that experience, but I think it no longer exists.
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> try to find a game for your smartphone that is ad-free and doesn't nag about in-app purchases.
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Re: Just Say No (Score:3)
Serif Affinity creative suite apps are pretty damn good (no, not quite Photoshop, but what else is?), and have a reasonable just-buy-it license. They often go on sale for half price, and your single license gives you Windows, Mac and iPad versions.
Affinity Photo can use many Photoshop plugins.
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Guild Wars 2
hopping
Guild Wars 3 stay a one time purchase
Fuck Adobe (Score:2)
A year of their software now costs more than the entire creative suite did back with a perpetual license, and somehow they were still a multi-billion-dollar company back then. At some point the Photoshop alternatives will be either good enough for everyone to switch en masse, or the greedy pig fuckers will raise the price to Broadcomian levels and they'll have just one customer keeping one product afloat.
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> A year of their software now costs more than the entire creative suite did back with a perpetual license.
There's an old adage in sales that the value of a thing equals whatever someone is willing to pay for it. I completely agree that, for me, Adobe's prices are too high. But since many are willing to pay the price, I can't fault Adobe for extracting the market value.
Did you see the clothes she was wearing? (Score:2)
He's just extracting what he wants from someone that was clearly asking for it.
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> I can't fault Adobe for extorting the market value.
There FTFY.
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>> I can't fault Adobe for extorting the market value.
> There FTFY.
They don't force anyone to buy their products. People do it voluntarily.
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... in a "got you by the balls anyways" kind of way.
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In theory, if the price rises high enough, it should incentivize other software vendors to develop competitive products. If Adobe's lead is so far ahead that nobody can ever catch up, then it's edging close to monopoly territory. Companies with so large an advantage have been subject to government intervention before.
Patents (Score:2)
Thanks to software patents, they do, in fact, have some legally okay monopolies.
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> ... the value of a thing equals whatever someone is willing to pay for it ... I can't fault Adobe for extracting the market value.
When there is no scarcity, that's not how market value works.
By scarcity, I mean a physical thing (or things), which by their physical nature means you don't have infinite amounts of them to sell. For example, a house or a car or a horse - there is a value that the market will bare for each of those, depending on the specs of the item and the market it is in. You can sell for less and maybe do so more quickly (ex. to flip a house), or hold out to get the maximum amount out of it (don't wait too long or the
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Uh, no, not even close. CS6 master suite (with everything you get now) was $7,988 circa 2007. Photoshop alone was $700. Illustrator similar when it was a standalone product.
Now, if you have a CS subscription long enough, year after year, yes you'll pay that much eventually. But not for one year's subscription cost, even under the new price. But unlike the old days, you're getting all the updates continually without paying $150 - $200 for upgrading one standalone piece of software like PS.
I would sa
Creative, are you sure? (Score:2)
Once you add all the AI nonsense its really just generative. All creativity is out the door.
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> Once you add all the AI nonsense its really just generative. All creativity is out the door.
Except you're talking out of your arse. A large feature set that Adobe provides uses AI models for non-generative stuff. Noise reduction, person detection, depth estimation for variable masking, etc.
There's more to AI than getting it to draw a picture for you.
SaaS = (Score:2)
"Let us not only rip you off on purchase, but KEEP ripping you off ad infinitum!" LoL
Look at our AI adoption rates! (Score:3)
"But, uh, you don't offer any alternatives."
"BUT LOOK AT OUR AI ADOPTION RATES!"
"It shows here that you're losing subscribers."
"BUT LOOK AT OUR AI ADOPTION RATES!"
Gag on the slop! And pay more for the privilege! (Score:2)
Defective moden "business" at work...
You enjoy being scammed (Score:2)
You could have easily made pull requests to the gimp for missing features but you would rather take the easy way out. Every time i point this out i get the same excuses. Also why you are addicted to DRMed games and media.
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> You could have easily made pull requests to the gimp for missing features
hahahahahahahahahahahahHAHaHAHAHAHahahhaha
> but you would rather take the easy way out.
Graphic artists who can't code are taking the easy way out by paying someone to do what they can't?
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I think pull request and issue are interchangeable here. Graphics artists can just as easily raise an issue ticket as they could talk to Adobe support.
Re: You enjoy being scammed (Score:2)
No.
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What a load of gatekeeping BS.
When I was a GIMP user, there was a huge dustup over someone creating a fork (IIRC "GimpShop") with a better UI. There was huge resistance to 16bit/channel color, because the devs unilaterally decided it wasn't necessary.
"Code it yourself" is useless advice. Human civilization is built on specialization. If everyone has to meet your "l33t haxx0r" standards, nothing will get done.
That does it - totally cancelling my subscription (Score:2)
Of course I didn't have a subscription in the first place, so that might be a little awkward
Meh (Score:2)
As an existing subscriber, I will likely go with the 'reduced AI' option because I don't really use AI except for light object removal with generative fill now and then.
I could actually live with the photographer plan but I actually use Illustrator a fair amount, and Acrobat to assemble, edit and otherwise convert and modify PDFs. I don't use much of anything else anymore.
I'd have to check to see if there's an alternative for Illustrator that will actually work for me. (usually the 'alternatives' are miss
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> I could actually live with the photographer plan but I actually use Illustrator a fair amount, and Acrobat to assemble, edit and otherwise convert and modify PDFs. I don't use much of anything else anymore.
You can swap out both Illustrator and Acrobat for free, open-source [1]Inkscape [inkscape.org] and your photographer plan would work out fine. Inkscape is my favorite PDF editor FWIW.
[1] https://inkscape.org/
Use to like Photoshop, but... (Score:1)
Adobe's trying to take the lead in the SAAS enshitification race...
"Creative" Cloud? (Score:2)
Commercial arts are ripe for full automation. Creativity dropped off the list of requirements for advertising decades ago. The objective of commercial art is to just be nearly the same as your competitors, so Generative AI could easily be used to create ad materials and campaigns by just copying the competition and tweaking it slightly. Car companies do this all day long. Seen one car commercial, you seen em all.
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> Car companies do this all day long. Seen one car commercial, you seen em all.
Don't say that to [1]Joe Isuzu [youtube.com].
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_1ASmweXYs
Slashvertising? (Score:2)
Since my adblocker no longer entirely works on Slashdot, I wanted to [1]SHARE THE AD [imgur.com] that appeared on the page accompanying all the comments of "F Adobe."
Yeah, that AI scraping and custom advertising is a biiiiiig winner.
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Re: Slashvertising? (Score:2)
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Alternatives? (Score:2)
Surely there's alternatives to highway robbery. There must be other, better ways to get ripped off.
I saw this coming and... (Score:2)
Four or five years ago I trialed Adobe's Premiere video editing suite and found it to be quite good. However, when I did some simple math it became obvious that the subscription model was going to be a huge financial penalty over the coming years so instead I opted to use Davinci Resolve.
Resolve offers a totally *free* version of its video editing/compositing software (Adobe's trial was just a 28-day one) so that immediately warmed me to Resolve.
After a couple of months using the *free* version of Resolve
Like a drug addiction (Score:3)
The first one's always free. Hook 'em first, then crank up the price.
The only good policy towards Adobe (and subscription apps in general) is "Just say no."
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I actually have the Adobe "Photography" Plan that recently just bumped up from $9.99/mo to $15.52/mo. ($19.95 listed on site).
Or had, rather, since I just cancelled it. I no longer use it enough to justify the cost, and have been using Pixelmator Pro for the odd work that I needed done.
Switching to a new program isn't easy... but it's getting easier, and I was getting tired of Adobe's incessant price increases.
I'm also currently going through the painful process of trying to delete the apps from my machine.
Re: Like a drug addiction (Score:2)
Not sure if you've noticed but nearly every business these days runs on the subscription model. You can't simply "say no" anymore.
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As pointed out above, I cancelled the subscription. As long as alternatives (or doing without) are options, one in fact can say, "No."
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I guess you havn't heard of corel. They have competed against adobe longer than I've been alive and still offer full purchases. there are also lots of smaller inde developers who have really good alternatives such as [1]https://realisticpaint.com/fea... [realisticpaint.com] [2]https://www.paintstormstudio.c... [paintstormstudio.com] and MANY others.
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