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EV Sales Keep Growing In the US, Represent 20% of Global Car Sales and Half in China (autoweek.com)

(Monday May 19, 2025 @03:16AM (EditorDavid) from the car-talk dept.)


"Despite many obstacles — and what you may read elsewhere — electric-vehicle sales continue to grow at a healthy pace in the U.S. market," [1]Cox Automotive reported this week . "Roughly 7.5% of total new-vehicle sales in the first quarter were electric vehicles, an increase from 7% a year earlier."

An anonymous reader shared [2]this analysis from Autoweek :

> "Despite a cloud of uncertainty around future EV interest and potential economic headwinds hanging over the automotive industry, consumer demand for electric vehicles has remained stable," according to the J.D. Power 2025 US Electric Vehicle Consideration Study released yesterday. Specifically, the study showed that 24% of vehicle shoppers in the U.S. say they are "very likely" to consider purchasing an EV and 35% say they are "somewhat likely," both of which figures remain unchanged from a year ago...

>

> Globally the numbers are even more pro-EV. Electric car sales exceeded 17 million globally in 2024, [3]reaching a sales share of more than 20% , according to a report issued this week by the International Energy Agency. "Just the additional 3.5 million electric cars sold in 2024 compared with the previous year is more than the total number of electric cars sold worldwide in 2020," the IEA said. China, which has mandated increases in EV sales, is the leader in getting electric vehicles on the road, with electric cars accounting for almost half of all Chinese car sales in 2024, the IEA said. "The over 11 million electric cars sold in China last year were more than global sales just 2 years earlier. As a result of continued strong growth, 1 in 10 cars on Chinese roads is now electric."

Interesting figures on U.S. EV sales from the article:

2024 EV sales rose 7.3% from 2023, [4]according to Cox Automotive data .

"Last year American consumers purchased 1.3 million electric vehicles, which was a new record, according to data from KBB.

"Sales have never stopped growing, and the percentage of new cars sold powered purely by gasoline continues to slip.



[1] https://www.coxautoinc.com/market-insights/q1-2025-ev-sales/

[2] https://www.autoweek.com/news/a64786815/electric-vehicle-demand-survey/

[3] https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2025/executive-summary

[4] https://www.coxautoinc.com/market-insights/q4-2024-ev-sales/



Re: (Score:2)

by Powercntrl ( 458442 )

> I'd buy one for $5K or so. Beyond that? Probably not.

For awhile you could actually get a used Nissan Leaf with a shot battery for around that or a little bit less. You might want to add a qualifier that the vehicle still has to have a usable amount of range.

Re: (Score:2)

by Sique ( 173459 )

In about 10 years, you'll get a used BEV for that price.

Technoluddites. (Score:5, Funny)

by serviscope_minor ( 664417 )

It's weird to see how much of /. has turned into a bunch of reactionary technoluddites. Electricity an exotic semiconductors are the future for cars too.

Well if I can't move my entire house cross country on less than 24 hour's notice, without stopping for a pee break on my way from Humptulips to Fluffly Landings, then an EV is nothing buy some urbanists toy runabout. This is why I drive a semi tractor from my suburban home to work, walmart and back.

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by Viol8 ( 599362 )

"has turned into a bunch of reactionary technoluddites"

No, just realists. I live in europe, I don't have a drive or any guaranteed parking on the street outside my house and there's ONE on street charger in my local area. How am I supposed to charge it, have a cable going from my house across the road?

"Well if I can't move my entire house cross country on less than 24 hour's notice, without stopping for a pee break "

Some of us appreciate being able to refuel in 5 mins. Not have to wait for a charger to beco

Re: (Score:2)

by Bert64 ( 520050 )

Thats a chicken and egg problem...

If there were more EVs on the roads, then more chargers would be built for them. This means more availability and less waiting for one to become free.

Also since being able to charge at home is a significant use case for an EV, most people who currently own them will be those who have a location to park and charge.

However a lot of EV proponents are trying to force them on everyone, not just the use cases where it makes sense.

For people who commute a few miles to work every d

Re: (Score:2)

by ukoda ( 537183 )

> For people who commute a few miles to work every day, and have somewhere to charge cheaply either at home or work the only downside is the up front purchase cost.

If you are buying new, and are not in countries like the USA, you can often buy a BEV for about the same price as an ICEV. For example here in New Zealand a new BYD Dolphin and a new Toyota Corolla are the same price. There are no EV subsidies here anymore.

https://www.bydauto.co.nz/vehicles/dolphin

https://www.toyota.co.nz/new-car/corolla/COROLLA-ZXASX-NM1/?skuCode=COROLLA-ZXASX-NM1-3U9-20

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by clokwise ( 844691 )

"How am I supposed to charge it, have a cable going from my house across the road?"

Perhaps stop at an EV charge station? New EVs have fast charging and you can charge 10% to 80% in 30 minutes (or less). If you're pressed for time, just top up for a couple minutes and you will still have enough charge for several days. It's not all that different an experience to a petrol station.

Re: Technoluddites. (Score:2)

by fluffernutter ( 1411889 )

Here's a tip: when a person is nervous about EV range in the first place, it's not helpful or productive to tell them to charge to 80%.

Re: (Score:1)

by clokwise ( 844691 )

Who's nervous? I'm not. Car batteries are similar to phone batteries, you typically shouldn't charge them to 100%, at least not regularly. That last 20% does take a bit longer to charge, so you'll see most EVs are spec'd at "80% charge". So just consider 80% == "100%".

Ford Focus gets 300 miles (conservatively) on a full tank. Toyota Corolla does better at about 435 miles.

My Xpeng G6 goes 370 miles at 80% charge, not including regenerative braking. Plenty of other EVs go even farther.

Today, EVs are generally

Re: Technoluddites. (Score:2)

by fluffernutter ( 1411889 )

When my phone dies I'm not stranded and I don't need a several hundred dollar tow. Also truthfully I was always frustrated with battery life until phones went way beyond lasting a full day of heavy use.

Re: (Score:2)

by Viol8 ( 599362 )

"Perhaps stop at an EV charge station?"

And where would that be? There's one within a mile radius. Am I supposed to take an hour out of my day to go and do that where right now with my ICE car I can go and fill it up and literally be home in 10 mins or less?

Re: (Score:1)

by clokwise ( 844691 )

A reasonable argument. EV charger stations are not everywhere. Yet.

There will definitely be a tipping point, in the not too distant future, where finding a petrol station could become more difficult that an EV charging station. Where I live in SE Asia we are seeing petrol stations closing frequently. Some are being replaced with LPG stations, some are turning into EV charge stations, and some just turn into other businesses.

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by Powercntrl ( 458442 )

> Perhaps stop at an EV charge station?

DCFC can be more expensive than gas on a cost-per-mile basis, and whether or not the regular trip to the charger ends up being a pain in the ass is highly location dependent. Near me, there's some Tesla Superchargers right near a Target and it's rather obvious some of the nearby apartment dwellers are getting their shopping done while they juice up their car. It is, however, a bit of a slog across the parking lot from the chargers to the store, and quite often Florida's weather isn't entirely cooperative.

Re: (Score:3)

by Quantum gravity ( 2576857 )

The State of EV Charging in Europe 2025: Key Stats and Growth Forecasts [1]https://koticharge.com/en/2025... [koticharge.com]

Charging stations are popping up everywhere, and in places I wouldn't have expected.

[1] https://koticharge.com/en/2025/04/09/ev-charging-in-europe-2025/

Re: (Score:1)

by angel'o'sphere ( 80593 )

You work at Walmart?

As fork lift driver?

Is it interesting?

Good. (Score:4, Insightful)

by Qbertino ( 265505 )

EVs are superior in just about every metric. The sooner ICEs behind quaint vintage oddities, the better. We're late enough as it is with the fossil fuel turn-around.

L00ny or not, you have to give Elon Musk credit for being a key figure in making this happen.

Re: (Score:2)

by Viol8 ( 599362 )

"EVs are superior in just about every metric"

What metrics?

Top speed? Rarely.

Refueling time? Nope.

Range? Nope.

Kerbweight? Nope

Towing weight? Nope

Good in the cold? Nope

Oh wait, they have good initial acceleration, well I'm sold! Not.

Re:Good. (Score:4, Interesting)

by Bender Unit 22 ( 216955 )

Top speed. 230 km/h is more than i need

Refueling time: yes. i spend 5 seconds plugging in when i come home. the EVSE is right by my front door. I spend less time refueling my ev than stopping at gas stations.

Range: I use 18-20% of my battery every day, i use 70% to visit my family in the other side of the country. they have a EVSE, I use my RFID tag to pay at their house. On time a year when i Travel through EU i do have to stop and charge but that is a small inconvenience to all the upsides

kerbweight: I dont care, it doesnt matter.

Towing weight: I dont care i dont need it.

Good in the cold: it is fantastic. it is warm instantly, it can de-ice itself. the added weight and 4 wheel drive makes it excellent in the snow.

And my daily commute is just bliss in a comfortable smooth ride in silence.

Re: (Score:2)

by Viol8 ( 599362 )

"Top speed. 230 km/h is more than i need"

And how many have a top speed that high?

"Refueling time: yes. i spend 5 seconds plugging in when i come home."

And for the majority of the world who live in small houses or flats and don't have a nice long drive in which to park a car to charge or a parking space with a charger?

"kerbweight: I dont care, it doesnt matter."

It matters to the road , crash safety and tyre particulate production.

"Towing weight: I dont care i dont need it."

Oh well, if YOU don't need it then

Re: (Score:1)

by angel'o'sphere ( 80593 )

The Majourity of the world: can charge at home or at work.

Most parts of the world where EVs are sold: have no winter.

You are one of those brain dead idiots: if it is not good enough for you, it must suck for everyone. Sorry: they are excellent for everyone: except you.

Re: (Score:2)

by Viol8 ( 599362 )

"The Majourity of the world: can charge at home or at work."

Really? You ever been to india or asia or even most european cities? I doubt you've been more than a few miles from where you were born.

Re: Good. (Score:2)

by fluffernutter ( 1411889 )

Yet we have governments already threatening to force them on everyone, not just the people they work for. Also there are many EV proponents that are in denial of how bad they are for some people. One person may not mind spending a large portion of their vacation time charging their car.. maybe they are retired or get more vacation. I get lots of vacation but my wife doesn't, so we are cramming everything into a week and I don't charging time added to that because it means I can't go as far or do as many

Re: (Score:1)

by angel'o'sphere ( 80593 )

Yes, again: your world is not the rest of the world.

Modern cars have charging times in minutes: to bad you country taxed them into oblivion.

So charging time is not argument, except for your personal use case. Who cares about that? I don't. I care about my use case. So ... do I run around and proclaim to the world that my use case should matter to the world? Nope ... it is a waste of time and energy.

Re: Good. (Score:2)

by fluffernutter ( 1411889 )

It goes without saying that everyone talks about their own personal use case. I never said I don't care about yours, why do you not care about mine?

Re: (Score:2)

by Apotekaren ( 904220 )

If you're spending enough time of your vacation driving to be worried about the charging time, you're spending too much time of your vacation driving! Fast chargers will give you 4-5 hours of driving for 30 minutes charging.

Re: Good. (Score:2)

by fluffernutter ( 1411889 )

What you are suggesting is that I should never see anything that is more than a couple hours drive away from my house or somewhere I can fly. I can't accept that as a limitation.

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by Misagon ( 1135 )

EVs are commonplace here in Sweden and in our neighbour Norway, Many of these are Teslas. You can see them everywhere.

We get proper winters. We get snow .. that thaws .. and then freezes into ice, over and over. We also get under-chilled rain that create invisible ice on the roads. etc. Change between summer and winter tyres are practically mandatory twice a year.

Studded winter tyres throw up a not insignificant amount of particulate matter: and therefore studded tyres banned from many inner-city streets fo

Re: Good. (Score:2)

by fluffernutter ( 1411889 )

Honestly, how cold does it get where most people live though? How often do you see anything below -25C?

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by ukoda ( 537183 )

> "Top speed. 230 km/h is more than i need"

> And how many have a top speed that high?

Yea, bit sad, only 230km/h. I'm told my BEV has a top speed of 268km/h but I can't prove that as people, particularly police, tend to take a dim view of things when you drive that fast.

Re: (Score:2)

by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

For towing, Ageing Wheels on YouTube just did a video about the EV truck be bought specifically to tow other cars. It looks good, massive battery, suits him.

Re: Good. (Score:2)

by fluffernutter ( 1411889 )

So where are the electric tow trucks?

Re: (Score:2)

by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

In Europe and China. I don't know why nobody seems to sell one in the US as they make a lot of sense. That guy tows a flatbed with the car on it.

Re: Good. (Score:2)

by simlox ( 6576120 )

You are right, except most of the time, when we are just commuting, between home, job, shops etc., those things doesn't matter at all. But we have a tendency to buy cars that fulfill our extreme needs, not our day-to-day needs.

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by Viol8 ( 599362 )

Don't assume your use case is the same as everyone. I live in a city in a small house with no drive so I have nowhere to charge an EV and there's a single public charger in the area. I use public transport for local trips and my car only gets used for long distance.

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by Powercntrl ( 458442 )

Well, the title of the article is about EV sales in the US and plenty of Americans need a vehicle just to get around our miserably designed suburban sprawl. The main sticking point I'll acknowledge is that most apartments generally don't have any sort of charging available. It's certainly an aspect of infrastructure that needs to be addressed.

Re: Good. (Score:2)

by fluffernutter ( 1411889 )

We buy cars to meet our extreme needs because there is no other way to meet those needs without an enormous added hassle such as renting a vehicle.

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by ukoda ( 537183 )

> we have a tendency to buy cars that fulfill our extreme needs, not our day-to-day needs.

Speak for yourself, that sounds like the kind of crazy justification that leads to buying stupidly large vehicles that you often see in the USA. Cars are big investment so I buy the right car for my normal needs. I have never regretted it and wished I brought something more extreme.

Re: (Score:2)

by Powercntrl ( 458442 )

> Top speed?

A high top speed is an important spec only on racetracks and when your goal is impressing 10-year-olds. Back in reality where most drivers aren't trying to get their license revoked for reckless driving, most of us only tend to care about how well a car accelerates to the speed traffic is flowing at, and EVs do that quite well.

> Refueling time?

I plug in at home. In all likelihood, my total time spent dealing with "refueling" my vehicle has gone down, even with those 30 minute stops during the infrequent times I take longe

Re: (Score:2)

by Viol8 ( 599362 )

"Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying EVs fit every use case"

Unfortunately a lot of EV evangelists think they DO fit every use case and when someone points out the downsides they just get modded down as a troll or IRL ignored or called a reactionary. This sort of fundamentalist approach is not going to win over many people.

Re: Good. (Score:2)

by fluffernutter ( 1411889 )

The word 'luddite' gets thrown around a lot, even though to me an EV seems to be closer to a horse drawn carriage than an ICE in terms of planning and inconvenience.

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by Powercntrl ( 458442 )

Some EV evangelists are attempting to break down the mental barriers of people who believe they need some big gas guzzlin' urban assault vehicle, but in reality actually don't. You certainly see a lot of them on the road in the US: Big shiny pickup trucks that have never seen a dirt road or a bed full of lumber, and SUVs with a single occupant just doing their daily stuck-in-rush-hour commute.

Generally, the more you get out into rural areas though, the more you'll see people actually utilizing the capabil

The US is the *least* interesting EV market (Score:4, Insightful)

by shilly ( 142940 )

I hate to break this to American readers, but the US market is more disconnected than all other developed world markets, and many developing world markets too. It mainly has different OEMs, wildly different policies coming down the road, much larger vehicles on average, worse charger infrastructure, lags in EV market share penetration, and radically different availability of models. It just is so disconnected from the rest of the global market.

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by clokwise ( 844691 )

100%. I live in SE Asia where the car market and all the associated infrastructure has been turned upside down by EVs in just the past 4 or 5 years. It's such a shame that Americans are being denied the opportunity to purchase such a wide variety of EVs as we have here, worse yet, they probably don't even have a clue how good these vehicles actually are. Teslas are fine, but they are not by any means the best you can buy these days. Go pull up some random Youtube EV reviews from Europe or Australia or Asia

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by Powercntrl ( 458442 )

Judging by the number of nearly identical looking Teslas I regularly see on the road, I think the US market just does exactly the same thing we do with social media companies, fast food restaurants and even Walmart: We pick a handful of brands to support, and the rest can just go to hell. Americans collectively hate too much choice.

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by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

The really interesting one is China. It disproves so many of the assumptions about EVs. Extremes of hot and cold climate, affordability of the transition to net zero, the size of the country and long distances that need to be covered, commercial vehicle use like taxis, buses, and construction equipment...

Between them and Norway it seems like every myth has been busted.

Re: The US is the *least* interesting EV market (Score:2)

by fluffernutter ( 1411889 )

Norway has only proven that you can sell oil to buy your EV mainstreaming and no one will count that oil against you, even though you extracted it and it is certainly getting burned by someone.

ICE diehards miss the point (Score:2)

by greytree ( 7124971 )

ICE diehards need to realise that finding some use case where ICEs are better is not an argument against EV adoption in general.

Need to tow massive loads ? Fine, roll coal.

But most people don't have or care about those use cases or find the obvious advantages of EVs far outweigh their drawbacks in those areas.

The world is moving on.

And fuck, can these things accelerate.

Re: ICE diehards miss the point (Score:2)

by fluffernutter ( 1411889 )

The worry is that governments are starting to talk about forcing people to use them whether they work for you or not.

Now I understand the meaning of "THE MOD SQUAD"!