Data Shows Boys and Young Men Are Falling Behind (nytimes.com)
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- News link: https://news.slashdot.org/story/25/05/16/1746241/data-shows-boys-and-young-men-are-falling-behind
- Source link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/13/upshot/boys-falling-behind-data.html
Mental health indicators show 28% of boys ages 3-17 have mental, emotional, behavioral or developmental problems versus 23% of girls. Male suicide rates for ages 15-24 have nearly doubled to 21 per 100,000 in 2023 from 11 in 1968. Labor force participation among men ages 25-54 has declined to 89% from 94% in 1975, while women's participation rose to 78% from 55%. Additionally, 19% of men ages 25-34 now live with parents, compared to 13% of women. "The contemporary American economy is not rewarding a lot of the characteristics associated with men and masculinity," said Robb Willer, professor of sociology at Stanford.
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/13/upshot/boys-falling-behind-data.html
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> Schools are designed for female students to close the "achievement gap". Female students get preferential admission. In stem, women get preferential hiring. Boys are shown they're second class citizens from the time they get into puberty. Women are taught to fear men, and men are taught they're hateful whether they're hateful or not. All this would be fine if society told them there's something good and unique about men, something to aspire to and be valued for. But "everything men can do women can do better". And now we're surprised at the fallout? Society won't be willing for the necessary reforms, especially giving men back their purpose, until things get a lot more shit than they are now.
Do you even have a modicum of proof of anything you say? Other than the same old right wing, boring old tripe that all men are the victims?
I'm sorry, you orange snowflake. No one cares.
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Yeah, who needs evidence based arguments when we can just shout stupid opinions at each other like on Twitter?
You're being ridiculous. Why on earth should anyone care about what you have to say if you cant even support it?
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Isn't the entire point of the article evidence?
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> Schools are designed for female students to close the "achievement gap". Female students get preferential admission. In stem, women get preferential hiring. Boys are shown they're second class citizens from the time they get into puberty. Women are taught to fear men, and men are taught they're hateful whether they're hateful or not.
Go ahead and point out in the article where it says anything close to the bullshit he spews.
Re:Since when do we care? (Score:4, Interesting)
[1]https://dailycollegian.com/201... [dailycollegian.com]
[2]https://www.reddit.com/r/Femin... [reddit.com]
[3]https://athensoracle.com/2296/... [athensoracle.com]
[4]https://archive.nytimes.com/le... [nytimes.com]
[5]https://www.bbc.com/news/educa... [bbc.com] (Teachers 'give higher marks to girls')
[6]https://www.forbes.com/sites/n... [forbes.com]
[7]https://aibm.org/research/boys... [aibm.org]
[1] https://dailycollegian.com/2018/04/schools-are-designed-more-for-girls-than-for-boys/
[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/FeminismUncensored/comments/opiad4/how_does_the_school_system_favour_girls_over_boys
[3] https://athensoracle.com/2296/opinions/is-school-designed-more-for-girls-than-boys/
[4] https://archive.nytimes.com/learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/05/is-school-designed-more-for-girls-than-boys/
[5] https://www.bbc.com/news/education-31751672
[6] https://www.forbes.com/sites/nickmorrison/2022/10/17/teachers-are-hard-wired-to-give-girls-better-grades-study-says/
[7] https://aibm.org/research/boys-girls-and-grades-examining-gpa-and-sat-trends/
Re:Since when do we care? (Score:4, Funny)
Biden Derangement Syndrome! Is Joe in the room with you right now?
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> Biden Derangement Syndrome! Is Joe in the room with you right now?
Joe's in his own room, shitting himself, and wondering if that was , umm, you know, the thing.
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I hear Argentina is popular.
Re:Since when do we care? (Score:4, Insightful)
Some "boys" don't succeed when they can't get a free ride on male privilege - that's the gist of your argument. And here I thought the conservative mentality was to pull on those ol' bootstraps and work harder .
It's still difficult to succeed as a woman. I just saw a thread on the HVAC subreddit today about a woman who was fired because she'd complained to HR about harassment. Women have to put up with a lot of shit in what is still a cisgender heterosexual male-dominated society (and no, I didn't put all those descriptors in there just to be "woke", as a gay man I've experienced my own share of prejudice as well), and if you're a man who can't make it because of some recent-ish efforts to level the playing field, then that's on you .
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I don't think you can solve discrimination with even more discrimination, but "on the other side".
It's not a zero sum game with a "limited number of slots", that you get to bump one side when you push the other down.
Basically, pushing males for being males won't make the issues that women face go away, it will just means more people getting screwed by the system.
The only ones that get any benefit from it are nepotists and similars, that have more tools to get rid of everyone they don't want, to put their un
Re:Since when do we care? (Score:5, Insightful)
>> It's still difficult to succeed as a woman. I just saw a thread on the HVAC subreddit today about a woman who was fired because she'd complained to HR about harassment.
> Basically, pushing males for being males won't make the issues that women face go away,
If "males being males" means we get to sexually harass women without consequence, we should change our idea of what "being male" is. There's no genetic compunction that forces men to make sexually explicit comments to/around coworkers. It's purely a social construct and learned behavior that can be changed.
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It's not punishing males for being males, it's punishing them for toxic behaviour.
If, instead of getting upset about it, you think about how you can improve yourself, be a better person. You know, like they do on Star Trek.
The best part is that it makes you more attractive to the ladies too. Maybe not the instant magnetism you see some guys apparently have, but once they get to know you, and get to know them...
Schools are designed for corporate drones (Score:2)
They are factories that create useful tools for large corporations and the extraordinarily rich people that own those large corporations (hint: that's not you)
Women were targeted because the corporations and the billionaires want it to dilute the labor pool and lower wages and bargaining power. That is all..
For men the jobs they did were the first that could be automated and we saw exactly that with massive amounts of factory automation and process improvement around what was previously middle class
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"$150 billion dollars worth of programs"
Not quite. Of that, he only has receipts for about $62 Billion and many of those receipts are dodgy as well. Put quickly, he's been lying just like his boss.
Re: Since when do we care? (Score:2)
Dont you worry, if history is any indication then things usually get very bad very quickly whenever there is a critical mass of desperate, hopeless and abandoned boys and young men without any perspective, purpose or support.
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Oh, bullocks. Do none of you people have decent enough memories to actually recall anything from your teenage years in the public schools? I do. And yeah... it was a miserable experience across the board. But not at all for the reasons you're trying to push in your narrative.
Schools are designed for female students
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Boys are shown they're second class citizens
from the time they get into puberty.
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men are taught they're hateful whether they're
hateful or not
I never saw any of
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> I never saw any of that "man-o-sphere" claptrap. Or, if I did, it was vastly, VASTLY overshadowed to the point of triviality by the regular student-on-student hate and bullying
Perfectly said! The "claptrap" came from the very people who are complaining today. Those who are screaming about teachers feminizing male students are the anti-intellectuals that defined masculinity to be violence and stupidity. They perpetrated that culture upon themselves, then when it turned out that punching the smart kid in the face wasn't a useful job skill, they blamed their failure on the schools.
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> Schools are designed for female students to close the "achievement gap". Female students get preferential admission. In stem, women get preferential hiring. Boys are shown they're second class citizens from the time they get into puberty. Women are taught to fear men, and men are taught they're hateful whether they're hateful or not. All this would be fine if society told them there's something good and unique about men, something to aspire to and be valued for. But "everything men can do women can do better". And now we're surprised at the fallout? Society won't be willing for the necessary reforms, especially giving men back their purpose, until things get a lot more shit than they are now.
This is yet another expression of the myth of (white) male suppression, even though female suppression on a statistical and anecdotal basis are obvious. Perhaps the only accurate complaint is that the overwhelming discrimination against women is eroding in some areas.
Almost everything said with the myth is false, but some of these men get to shout louder. 2+2=5. This is the theme of the current times.
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Listening to FOX and the MaggotVerse will definitely cause you to think that your ills are caused by Someone Else Who is Probably Female.
Re: Since when do we care? (Score:2)
Absolutely. My daughter and son, and their spouses, all in their 20s agree. We saw it at every level in the education system. From high school to masters degree.
This is well researched (Score:2, Insightful)
Read a book called "The Boy Crisis", and definitely visit the website: "https://boycrisis.org/".
A quick explanation, we've over feminized education, social services and society, while placing blame on men and boy for issues that we aren't reasonable for. How can you send a boy to an education system that blames him for everything, well asserting if he doesn't feel shame, and disgust at being male, while subscribing to dangerous misandrist ideals such as feminism, what do you expect? When was the last tim
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Wait, you have a young son living with you, and you haven't "sent him to an education system" because it's "feminized"? THAT'S why he's home without a job. Because you didn't SEND HIM? And he doesn't have a job because you didn't send him to a feminized uhh.. jobs.. or something? Is that how that works, your adult son is living with you because you didn't send him anywhere?
But a Men's day, that would change your mind and you might ... release your son out to the world. I just want to get that straight, lol
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What? When did I say I had a son, or that I didn't send him to school, or suggest he shouldn't get a job? If you don't want to use the resources I provided, then follow the research, which you can easily find, because people like Jordan Peterson show it, that men and boys are increasing disadvantaged. I don't care if you like JP, that's irrelevant, I'm only bringing him up because it's an easy way to find peer reviewed research on this topic.
This isn't a grey area, or some hidden misogyny, this is a fa
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IMD is November 19th - [1]https://internationalmensday.c... [internationalmensday.com], that's the only official day, what privilege do men have that is a pure / true benefit? Seriously, read the book, check the site, this isn't new. We've demoted men to second / third class citizens, and then wonder what happened after ignoring it. If anyone says International Men's Day, is every other day, they're lying, and ignorant.
[1] https://internationalmensday.com/
Re: This is well researched (Score:1, Insightful)
"We've demoted men to second / third class citizens"
Are you seriously this much of a special snowflake?
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I'm not, if you consult the experts, which I've listed a book from and a website, you can follow this yourself.
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Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto were both written by people who claimed to be experts. Claiming that some book written by some nutjob is spouting bullshit doesn't make it true. Which in your heart you know, which is why you're talking about a book without citing any of the facts or arguments the book provides.
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You confirmed the issue by rejecting the research outright, which shows the scale of it. You need more evidence than the book, and website, which show the evidence? I didn't just state something and walk away, I provided the link, so read the book, read the website, and educate yourself.
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It's easier to fool people than to convince them they've been fooled. — Mark Twain. Actually, it's almost impossible to convince them they've been fooled! This applies to both sides who think their side is the best.
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Men are both at the top and bottom of our society so the people claiming they're privileged and the people complaining they're beat down are both true. All men are not treated equally.
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There is some confusion about what it means to be privileged. Some people say that the most powerful positions in US society are held by men, and therefore men are in power (President, Congress, state government, CEOs, etc.). On the other hand, this does NOT imply that ALL men are powerful. There are also different and contradictory ways to measure privilege, and there can also be responsibilities that come with privilege.
It's complicated, even without getting into issues of intersectionality, intersexual
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It's not that complex, if you want to show X privilege you need to show how X benefits solely and exclusively from being X. If it's not a pure and exclusive benefit, it's not a privilege for that group. I can't show the evidence, but when I was in University my engineering program allowed women to apply with lower overall grades, meaning if you applied as a male, you had to have at least an 80% average, but if you were a woman, you got to apply with a much lower average, I think it was 65%, just so they co
Re: This is well researched (Score:2)
Nobody has been demoted to anything. It's just identity politics, and it's all bullshit.
Re: This is well researched (Score:2)
> As my parents would say, International Men's Day is every other day of the year. We celebrate the privileged in-group literally every day.
I get that you were raised with a silver spoon in your mouth, you were never abused, you weren't born with any major medical problems, you were never bullied in school, and you never faced any adversity of any kind, or had any opportunities unfairly denied, hence you have "privileged" written prominently on your face with a permanent marker. Because for you, your sex and/or skin color succinctly defines your life story in one word: "privileged" You're totally replaceable, just like any other commodity, with
Cultural problems (Score:2, Interesting)
Boys who work hard in school are called nerds and pussies.
Girls who work hard get torn down less.
The best boys tend to do better than the best girls.
The girls, once they hit their careers, often quit or cut back to have kids. This especially happens with doctors.
I'd like to see info on hours worked in professional, highly educated careers by sex.
There were reasons that women were blocked from many fields, and it wasn't all sexism.
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"Boys who work hard in school are called nerds and pussies." By other boys. Stop pretending boys are the victims, boys are the bullies. We live in a male-dominated society, it just angers you to think that your privilege might be reduced even the slightest amount.
"There were reasons that women were blocked from many fields, and it wasn't all sexism."
Such as? But hey, it's super comforting that it wasn't ALL sexism!
Re: Cultural problems (Score:3)
I can confirm what GP said. I was bullied in school for trying to learn, only and specifically by other males.
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Well we are blocked from serving on a submarine.
Because putting males and females together in a small space for a long time is a bad idea.
We need better role models (Score:2)
Controversial, I know, but we need role models who can lead by example and show young men how to be men, how to stand up to adversity, and preserve in life. Someone who'd show them how to accept and learn from failures and focus on success instead of dramatising insignificant adverse events.
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We used to teach this in the Boy Scouts, but that's been gutted. There are alternatives though.
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This is victim blaming. Men did not forget "how to be", the systems are slanted against them.
Re: We need better role models (Score:3)
Against them being shit. We don't need to make it okay for men to be shit again.
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Here are some examples of the slanted system:
Giving boys ADD meds because it's not natural for young boys to sit still for hours at a time
No male spaces, men aren't allowed to have clubs, offices, etc. without women, so men lose lots of all-male bonding opportunities
Marriage/child law; men are still often the ones who support families, then the women leave (70% of the time, with lesbian marriages failing 3x as often as gay male ones; not the men being shitty), and, for many states, fathers don't get the
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"...we need role models who can lead by example and show young men how to be men..." ...or show them how to be women. How about we show them how to be better people, and young women too. We don't need sexism in the solution.
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Show men how be men. Show women how to be women. Don't try to measure both sexes with the same measure and don't create a unisex programme to fit both. Tailored education and approach. Unisex approach has failed.
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> Controversial, I know, but we need role models who can lead by example and show young men how to be men, how to stand up to adversity, and preserve in life. Someone who'd show them how to accept and learn from failures and focus on success instead of dramatising insignificant adverse events.
Look, this isn't difficult.
Put that in the perspective of a man or woman that has a young adult son living with them. You have a son. He is not entertaining college. You're wiping the sweat off your brow because that's expensive. He is not talking to any recruiters. You're not sure he'd qualify for anything after years of sitting around the house, but the thought of him deploying scares you. He is also not in the least bit interested in looking for a job.
Who do you blame. "Feminists"? Male role models? A wo
Just in case you were wondering... (Score:1)
Over prescribing of unnecessary ADD meds, brain rot instant gratification infinite doom scrolling apps, and the sheer number of children coming into the country that don't speak English and don't integrate into our society and culture are the 3 major factors if you combine multiple other reports.
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The ADD meds are necessary to get boys to sit still in a system designed by and for girls.
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The not sitting still is more from diet than anything else. Switch to a carnivore diet for a few months and you'll be amazed at how that calms your mind down while making it sharper. You can handle sitting patiently again without needing to fidget and can pay attention to media that doesn't cut scenes every couple of seconds.
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MAGA outrage. Always the victim, blame the immigrant and the deep state conspiracy.
Boys Keep Swinging (Score:1)
Heaven loves ya
The clouds part for ya
Nothing stands in your way when you're a boy
Clothes always fit ya
Life is a pop of the cherry when you're a boy
(When you're a boy) You can wear a uniform
(When you're a boy) Other boys check you out
(You get a girl) These are your favorite things
When you're a boy
Boys
Boys
Boys keep swinging
Boys always work it out
Uncage the colours, unfurl the flag
Luck just kissed you hello
When you're a boy
They'll never clone you, you are always first on the line
When you're a boy
You might also
Re: Boys (Score:1)
We tried to fly
Is it so high
We don't think so
We don't think so
Are we looked at
Are we set back?
Can we fake him
Emulate him?
Time is breaking
Changing faking
Grind us up now
Not too hard now
Features so fine
Rouge and eyeline
Things I fancy
Just like Nancy
Fashions alter
Often falter
Crypso's out now
No more fights now
Make-up's taking
Lots of shaving
On my eyelash
You sure it don't clash
Slim-line trousers
Facial powders
flooding my mind
You sure there's no lines
Eye me up now
pamper me now
Please don't pass by
Or I shall cry
Stable? (Score:2)
The charts make it look pretty stable within noise starting about 2000. The labor force participation lines stay mostly parallel from that time on, and the college enrollment is similar but hard to see without confidence intervals. Reading about historical trades guilds in Europe, women participating would slowly become more common in times of wealth and then they'd get pushed out in times of economic distress to keep guild incomes higher. Machinery and robotics has certainly disrupted the labor power of
A hypothetical partial explanation (Score:2)
I know nothing about this topic, but I know a little about numbers and statistics. Hypothetically, what's described is exactly what would be expected **IF** there was a time when society was biased in favor of boys and men in certain contexts, and then that bias was reduced so that males and females were more equal.
Totally fictional example: suppose there's a university that only admits male students, so 100% of their students are male. Then their policy changes to allow women students. Shortly thereafter,
What I learned working in K12 education (Score:5, Interesting)
I worked for a major textbook publisher for years, the whole experience was summed up by one newsletter. How K12 treats boys was basically an open secret.
I got two emails, this was maybe in ~2016, back to back. One was a general education newsletter. In it there was this article, about a study done in the UK. They asked boys to gauge how much they thought their teachers, specifically high school biology teachers I think it was, were biased against them. They audited the grading of those teachers in a gender-blind way and found the boys surveyed were shockingly good at estimating this. The researchers were suggesting that basically boys don't try very hard in school by the time they reach high school, because they are actually quite smart about where they choose to spend their effort.
The next email was about yet another "Girls in STEM" promotional event we were running.
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The War Against Boys was published twenty-five years ago.
They are raised to be angry simpletons, not men. (Score:2)
Listening to Joe Rogan (Peterson, or the rest..), watching UFC, and not drinking from a straw does not make a man.
Sitting in a wheelie chair playing video games while degrading others and feeling superior does not make a man.
The entitled rich kids who inherited their money have created this environment to keep them simple, angry and dependent. Now all these boys can do is "get learnt" by Thiel and Musk, work in coal mines or punch each other in the face for money.
As someone that plays a lot of video games (Score:2)
I really wish my fellow guys that also play games wouldnâ(TM)t be so defensive about the role they are playing in all this. I think a lot of people my age 40s) just assume itâ(TM)s the same criticism as the 80s and 90s which was largely unfounded hysterics. But modern games aimed at young boys are built on the same predatory, attention-keeping/destroying logic as the worst parts of social media or casinos.
What do you expect? (Score:1, Insightful)
They're being groomed by mouth breathing nitwits like Andrew Taint, Joe Rogan, 4/8chan, and Jordan Peterson. Emotions are for p*ssies, it's not r*pe if you paid for her meal, and "why is that woman talking?" is the curriculum they're being fed. They're not falling behind; they're experiencing evolutionary regression.
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> They're being groomed by mouth breathing nitwits like Andrew Taint, Joe Rogan, 4/8chan, and Jordan Peterson. Emotions are for p*ssies, it's not r*pe if you paid for her meal, and "why is that woman talking?" is the curriculum they're being fed. They're not falling behind; they're experiencing evolutionary regression.
If you see a pattern in Andrew Tait, Joe Rogan, *Chan, and Jordan Peterson, there's another nitwit in the discussion.
Psychiatry = destruction of one's life (Score:1)
I was Analyst in a company and have M.Sc. diploma.
Then I visited a doctor because of small stress. I was given meds that I tried but when I discontinued them I was put into a ward and they diagnosed me to have "schizophrenia" although I worked full time (also from a ward using my phone) without problems in my work performance.
I continued to work 5 fulltime years but then lost my job because I was treated against my will in psychiatry and couldn't go to my work. Now I'm a jobless psychiatric patient and it's
A scaling problem. (Score:1)
Work doesn't pay enough. Apartment rent is much too high. Medical aid is less affordable than death. Men are expected to pay for everything in a relationship. Life is unsatisfying, and offers nothing in the way of fulfillment or joy. We have to be a pillar of strength, the smartest man in the room, and the ability to purchase a home at a 1950s level. Education is self-destructing. The employment market has already self destructed. If there is change that has to be made, it is on the world that the corrupt
Of course (Score:1, Flamebait)
Men are the weaker sex. There, I said it. As proof I offer all those who whine about women on OnlyFans making hundreds of thousands of dollars (potentially millions). Tell me, how do those women make all that money? Who is paying them?
As a follow up, for centuries men held sway in everything. It's why they like to point out the lack of female scientists, artists, etc. The reason of course is women were prevented, both physicallly and legally, from being scientists, artists, etc. Until 1974 women in
No Child Left Behind (Score:1)
Push them through no matter what, huh. How's that working out?
American society isn't even ready to address this (Score:2)
We're still caught up in this big political/cultural war, where the more "liberal leaning" half of our population is still sold on the idea that we need to keep making more "opportunities" for women in the workplace, and secondarily? There was blatant sexism against women up till now, preventing them from obtaining workplace equality.
I'm afraid I have to disagree. The core issue at hand is really a level deeper. In my lifetime, I've witnessed a big shift in focus away from valuing the "stay at home mom" and
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No. Your _feelings_ on the issue don't really matter. The numbers are the numbers. You aren't being honest about the numbers.
Another interpretation (Score:2)
Because more women are entering the workforce and able to compete on equal footing, they're securing positions that substandard men were previously able to occupy. At the same time, opportunities for work are not growing at a rate that keeps up with supply of labor. This increased competition is simply an artifact of a competitive, elitist system with no safe-guards.
We see this happening outside of the gender game as well in other elite fields where foreign entrants are able to secure places that domestic c
It's Hard For My Fellow Liberals to Accept (Score:2)
The response of many of my fellow liberals to stories like this is one of the biggest factors that is driving men toward MAGA. If more liberals opened their minds and paid attention to what these people are saying, we'd all be in a much better place. A big part of the issue is that many liberals find it impossible to perceive men as systemically disadvantaged in any facet of life since we've spent almost all of human existence so far on the other side of the spectrum.
Society is at its best when everyon
All of you wanted this to happen (Score:2)
Is this not the end goal of every pseudo-improvement of the last 1-2 decades of a culture war that was exclusively led by the self-titled progressive woke? They wanted to dismantle the âpatriarchyâ(TM) by systematically giving unfair advantages to everyone else, so congratulations, it worked, you destroyed the helpless and the defenseless boys! Your BS was not ever tackling real issues and will never affect the actual wealthy and really powerful, but you WANTED to tear men down - and you did it!!
So? (Score:2)
> 28% of boys ages 3-17 have mental, emotional, behavioral or developmental problems versus 23% of girls.
Is this new, though? Or has it always been the case? Especially among adolescents, testosterone can do quite a number on their thinking, especially with as yet under-developed frontal cortexes.
> Labor force participation...
Ah, so men still participate at a higher rate than women, 89% to 78%. How is this falling behind?
> Additionally, 19% of men ages 25-34 now live with parents, compared to 13% of women.
Sure
Men are over represented (Score:2)
As bricklayers. We need to force women into those roles until the brick laying profession is a microcosm of society. Same for miners, loggers, arctic fishermen, etc.
When you decide to punish men for the actions attitudes historic whatever, they will take note and this is the outcome. Not rocket science.
Don't they just love it when a plan come together (Score:2)
after all they have to get the cannnon fodder ready for the next war. It's the tried and true conservative (small 'c') solution!
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> The feminazis always claim to be for "equality".
So do incels.
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They are truly made for each other.
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And to think you're proud of this comment.
"Their takeover of education and industry has been so successful that men are doing much worse than women."
Are they? And education is bad anyway, Trump loves the uneducated, like you. In fact, Trump wouldn't say falling behind but leading the charge.
"Or were they just hateful misandrists all along ?"
No, that's just your projection. Not everyone is as hateful as the MAGA loyalists. You should be loving this outcome, it's what you voted for.
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And to think you're proud of that drivel.
Re:It's okay, the feminazis will save us (Score:4, Insightful)
OK, Cartman. Anyone with kids sees young women leaving the house and making friends while young men stay home and play video games while their ass slowly grows into the crevices of their gaming chair.
Zero parents with a young adult son living with them blame society, just you weird incel fucktards. If education is too feminine, starter jobs are too feminine (lol, seriously?), then why aren't soccer fields, baseball fields, any team sport, etc, mountain bike, dirt bike trails, you know, "man stuff", every possible fucking thing parents try to push their sons out of the house to do, why aren't they flooded with 18-25 yr old young men with nothing else to do? Because if they were any good at getting out of the house and making connections, .... they'd already be out the fucking house wouldn't they. All the young men I see out enjoying themselves HAS A FUCKING JOB, because they're not going home for lunch and they're sure as shit not charging it to mom's credit card while blaming abstract femininity for not having an income.
My man, if your little Johnny said he's not going to college because there are too many girls there, you fucked up hard. And that's why he's not getting a job? LOL, start packing your shit Johnny. All parents in that position, god bless them, they know it too, they fucked up. You have no experience on the matter, obviously.
Bring back the draft... (Score:1)
... and get off my lawn
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Right because men do not deserve freedom. Their intrinsic moral inferiority means things like "rights" do not apply to them, and they should just be slaves of the government, with no self-determinancy at all, up to and including being ordered to go die whenever this benefits any members of the government.
The last thing we should bother doing as an analysis of cultural and legal biases that may be operating against men, depriving them of education that can reach them and mental health or legal support that
Re: Bring back the draft... (Score:5, Insightful)
To be fair, the main things holding men back are the policies that stupid men have been voting for. A bunch of idiot men have been bamboozled into supporting a system of private healthcare and private education because they refused to stop clinging to the blue-collar dream.
When faced with the reality that the blue collar jobs were declining both in quantity and pay, these fucking morons doubled down on the idiotic dream and sought to solve the problem with tariffs. Which, of course, just further demonstrates their ignorance.
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> To be fair, the main things holding men back are the policies that stupid men have been voting for. A bunch of idiot men have been bamboozled into supporting a system of private healthcare and private education because they refused to stop clinging to the blue-collar dream.
> When faced with the reality that the blue collar jobs were declining both in quantity and pay, these fucking morons doubled down on the idiotic dream and sought to solve the problem with tariffs. Which, of course, just further demonstrates their ignorance.
I'm just sad :-( that I'm too old to work mining for "Beautiful Clean Coal" and
my hands are too big for "screwing in little screws to make iPhones" like this Administration envisions for the not-rich people in America. /s
- [1]Reinvigorating America’s Beautiful Clean Coal Industry and Amending Executive Order 14241 [whitehouse.gov]
- [2]Howard Lutnick Says Army Of Millions Will Build iPhones In The US, But Could Trump's Tariffs Make The Premium Apple Flagship Cost $2,300? [yahoo.com]
[1] https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/reinvigorating-americas-beautiful-clean-coal-industry-and-amending-executive-order-14241/
[2] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/howard-lutnick-says-army-millions-023014445.html
70% of middle class jobs since 1980 (Score:2)
Got taken by automation not outsourcing. Trump's own commerce Secretary admitted on Fox News that even if the factories ever came back the jobs won't because it all just be robots.
Basically we are running out of work. And that's not something you can openly discuss because as soon as you do outcome the thought terminating cliches about ludites and buggy whips and whatever else.
I just don't think human beings are equipped to think about and deal with the changes that are coming and it have been hamme
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> To be fair, the main things holding men back are the policies that stupid men have been voting for. A bunch of idiot men have been bamboozled into supporting a system of private healthcare and private education because they refused to stop clinging to the blue-collar dream.
Because everyone can have a cushy office job and we don't need anyone to grow food, build roads, weld pipes, etc. You're essentially a living parody of "learn to code".
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Only draft women, that will cure historical inequities, and then men will be doing better, comparably.
Re: Bring back the draft... (Score:3)
Fuck that warmongering shit.
Every war is another chance for it to be the big one. We cannot afford that as a species. You're a traitor to humanity.
Job Draft (Score:2)
Raise the minimum age to 'drop-out' from 16 to 21. Provide free community college or trade school education to students under age 21. Require military service or vocational certificate completion prior to qualifying for upper level or university student financial aid. Provide federal subsidies for employing tradespeople in their first year of their apprenticeship.
Re: Bring back the draft... (Score:2)
I agree. But first, open it up to able-bodied women of age to serve too.