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Huawei Unveils a HarmonyOS Laptop, Its First Windows-Free Computer (liliputing.com)

(Friday May 09, 2025 @11:30PM (BeauHD) from the cutting-out-the-middleman dept.)


Huawei has launched its [1]first laptop running HarmonyOS instead of Windows , complete with AI features and support for over 2,000 mostly China-focused apps. The product is largely a result of U.S. sanctions that prevented U.S.-based companies like Google and Microsoft from doing business with Huawei, forcing the company to develop its own in-house solution. Liliputing reports:

> Early version of HarmonyOS were basically skinned version of Android, but over time Huawei has moved the two operating systems further apart and it now includes Huawei's own kernel, user interface, and other features. The version designed for laptops features a desktop-style operating system with a taskbar and dock on the bottom of the screen and support for multitasking by running multiple applications in movable, resizable windows.

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> Since this is 2025, of course Huawei's demos also heavily emphasize AI features: the company showed how Celia, its AI assistant, can summarize documents, help prepare presentation slides, and more. While the operating system won't support the millions of Windows applications that could run on older Huawei laptops, the company says that at launch it will support more than 2,000 applications including WPS Office (an alternative to Microsoft Office that's developed in China), and a range of Chinese social media applications.



[1] https://liliputing.com/huawei-introduces-its-first-laptop-running-harmonyos-rather-than-windows/



Finally (Score:1)

by africanrhino ( 2643359 )

More alternatives!

Re: (Score:2)

by RitchCraft ( 6454710 )

Yes, now you can be monitored by the PRC just like Microsoft monitors the free world. One problem though, the PRC will Uyghur you if you say something naughty.

Why not just a Linux distro...? (Score:2)

by ctilsie242 ( 4841247 )

HarmonyOS is one thing, but why not just a Linux distribution like Ubuntu, or perhaps do a downstream distribution of Debian or Red Hat? Something that provides a lot of functionality, well tested, and open source.

Re: (Score:1)

by olsmeister ( 1488789 )

Because they want system-level backdoors built in to make sure everyone is behaving themselves.

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by ChunderDownunder ( 709234 )

Perhaps a generation of Chinese computer science students grew up with the Torvalds-Tanenbaum debate, saw what Google was doing with Fuchsia OS and thought this was the way of the future.

[ c.f. Redox OS, if it had commercial backing from a major hardware vendor. ]

But in terms of Huawei, if you write your own kernel you don't have to concern yourself with being pestered to release source code under the terms of the GPL.

Re: (Score:2)

by test321 ( 8891681 )

It's the same argument as for Windows: familiarity. A phone/tablet is the next thing everybody knows to use, and will spontaneously switch to as a backup if their Windows laptop isn't available. I have colleagues, 40+ y.o. with PhDs, who don't own a laptop, say after work all they need is a mobile phone. A "mobile platform" (Android, iOS) is where people find the thousands of idiotic apps and games they want.

I imagine, if a company policy said "everybody uses Ubuntu", many would feel humiliated into a nerd

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by jacks smirking reven ( 909048 )

Why would Huawei want it to be open source?

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by williamyf ( 227051 )

> Why would Huawei want it to be open source?

OpenHarmony is OpenSource IIRC is either BSD or MIT. Huawei donated as FOSS a krapton of HarmonyOS code around 2019~2020. And not the ASOP fork part, the HArmonyOS next part.

Also, the OS has a multikernel approach, and two of the kernels supported are FreeRTOS and Linux.

Then, Huawei puts some propiertary bits and bobs here and there, and that's HarmonyOS. Kinda like Apple putting a lot of propiertary bits and bob on top and around of the Darwin FOSS kernel and the FreeBSD USerland.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/w [wikipedia.org]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenHarmony

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by jacks smirking reven ( 909048 )

Thank you, that is interesting.

Even with it's open source nature there will always be suspicions about how the PRC interacts with it, is there a separation of sorts or can it be as trusted as Linux is,

National Security (Score:3)

by Baron_Yam ( 643147 )

Every nation serious about its communications infrastructure should have its own OS and business applications. Even just maintaining a fork of something open source.

Windows and Azure are waiting to be abused by the US government to hurt a perceived foe.

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by Mr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 )

Yes, every nation that is serious about total population control and lebensraum victories will encourage investment in the opposite of open source.

The more the totalitarian - the less the open.

Because open doesn't really lend itself to control.

Re: (Score:2)

by Baron_Yam ( 643147 )

And ultimately, at any given scale, it's all about control.

Everything that is fundamental to a group's survival should be under that group's control. A viable, stable country needs to be able to defend its borders, maintain order, and keep its people housed, clothed, and fed. There's a lot more to making a NICE country and happy citizens, but those three things are the bare minimum.

These days, that means you need to keep the computers humming because they're controlling everything. If your nation can aff

Looks nice to me but about the only way you are likely to get Linus to take
in kernel debugging patches is to turn them into hex and disguise them as USB
firmware ;)

- Alan Cox's guide on submitting Linux patches, today:
chapter #3, kernel debuggers