Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI (msn.com)
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- News link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/25/05/08/1329251/zuckerbergs-grand-vision-most-of-your-friends-will-be-ai
- Source link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/technology/artificial-intelligence/zuckerberg-s-grand-vision-most-of-your-friends-will-be-ai/ar-AA1EjI6Q
The Meta founder's vision extends beyond casual interaction to therapeutic and commercial relationships, with personalized AI that "has a deep understanding of what's going on in this person's life." Meta has already deployed its AI across Instagram, Facebook, and Ray-Ban smart glasses, reaching nearly a billion monthly users.
[1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/technology/artificial-intelligence/zuckerberg-s-grand-vision-most-of-your-friends-will-be-ai/ar-AA1EjI6Q
"Hey! How can we monetise human relationships?" (Score:5, Insightful)
Sweet suffering fuck, is there anything this empathy free android will not try to wring coin out of?>.
Honestly, I wouldn't even give this cretin the steam off my piss now. It's the most hideous abasement of literally what it means to be human, mediating any kind of human experience, connection, communication, and emotion through software that, if we're being charitable we'd call 'unreliable', and if we're being honest, we'd call a disaster on a societal, and environmental scale waiting to happen, and coming soon.
NO NO NO NO NO.
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'empathy free android' is a little harsh...on androds
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> Sweet suffering fuck, is there anything this empathy free android will not try to wring coin out of?>.
Unfortunately, this is kind of the natural evolution of the Internet. First we were happy to discover other people across the world. Then we were happy to discover other people online via video and live chat. Then we started ignoring real people. Then OnlyFans came along, and we started paying for female attention. We've basically been living in our computers for years. It' was probably inevitable that someone was going to profit filling that void with artificial people. It's a huge moneymaking opportunity
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I hope others realize how dehumanizing this is and actually DO something about it instead of just going along with it. Keep in mind that we STILL have mobile providers touting how "connected" they keep people through their mobile devices. This is what the algorithms and echo chambers are leading us to. Social media and video chats are not real connection, but people allow it as a substitution for face to face because it's easier than real relationships. AI "relationships" will be easier as well. “Char
GTFO! (Score:3)
This is equal parts sad and creepy.
Mark needs therapy, I think.
Re:GTFO! (Score:5, Insightful)
All the billionaires are mentally ill. It's not a natural human condition, and clearly leads in most cases to monomania, megalomania and some degree of sociopathy. They come to believe the size of their bank accounts makes them into gods.
It's why I think we should ban the concept entirely. After the first $100 million, maybe adjusted every ten years for inflation, you don't get anything more. Sure, maybe you don't become the big innovator, but honestly, a good deal of the time after the initial invention (if they actually invented anything at all, which with Zuckerberg is debatable), it normally ends up in some sort of Edison's lab scenario, where the big rich "inventor" is paying actual researchers to create things that the big rich "inventor" can claim as their own.
In the ultra wealthy simply become enablers of tyrants. Think Crassus in the First Triumvirate, an equal on paper, but in reality a background figure whose wealth served Caesar and Pompey the Great more than it ever served Crassus himself.
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> All the billionaires are
from the paypal mafia (well not all, but enough to make you wonder). [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PayPal_Mafia
Wow, stating it out loud. (Score:3)
I mean, most of us knew this was the vision of the tech-bros, that all our interactions would be through their technology. Some of us had theorized for a while that they wanted it to be mostly through their AI agents. I'm just surprised one of them is brazen enough to go right out there and say it to the public.
The powers that be have been working for nearly fifty years to make us hate each other, to separate us from family, friends, and those other humans that we might otherwise consider our community. And the tech-bro culture comes along with a plan to "rescue" us from this horrible situation. And the plan is to use it to gather still more data about us, by making sure most of our interactions are through assets they own outright, until one day we realize we are all assets owned outright by them as well.
What a lovely vision of the future he paints. What's truly sad is that this vision may actually come true. Lots of younger folks don't know how to interact face to face with people. Even when friends get together, they all sit near each other interacting through their phones and tablets. Replacing real friends with AI chatbots will be a snap as the technology gets better. It's insidious, but I suppose inevitable.
Re: Wow, stating it out loud. (Score:2)
AI cannot replace human human touch or smell. Human touch is inversely correlated to anxiety, depression and stress.
Human touch calms us and slows down our heartbeat. It lowers blood pressure and cortisol. It triggers the release of oxytocin, (the hormone known for promoting emotional bonding to others.)
Humans are constantly smelling themselves and other people. A study in 2020 revealed that people subconsciously smell members of the same sex more often than those of different sex.
Researchers have found evi
Re: Wow, stating it out loud. (Score:2)
Asimov wrote a novel called the Naked sun, about a planet with very low population, with people living far away from each other and interacting remotely. Most of the work on the planet is done by robots.
This sounds almost exactly like the utopia of the tech billionaires.
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We are seeing the reality of concepts from 50 years ago. The personal computer was supposed to be this really. Your friend. The information economy is another glossy term from the past. We have it now. Information moves around, people add value, and money changes hands. All that was supposed to lead to a utopian world of less work, more play. Well here we are, and it's a logical extension to say Big Tech wants to replace all your human interactions... nobody seemed to think about the cost of this in terms o
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> I mean, most of us knew this was the vision of the tech-bros, that all our interactions would be through their technology.
To be more exact -- through the platform they own and control .
He's projecting (Score:3)
Just because most (all?) of HIS friends are already AI he thinks that will apply to everyone. Talk about out of touch.
Re: He's projecting (Score:2)
This is the comment I came for
What a disgusting vampire (Score:4, Interesting)
Dude reminds me of the Sacklers. He treats the rest of humanity as prey.
Luigi has admirers for a reason.
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> Luigi has admirers for a reason.
To be fair, I only picked Luigi because Mario is a psycho that jumps on turtles for fun. I can't believe some people call him "super'.
Distopia anyone? (Score:1)
From TFA: “The very platforms that have led to our social isolation and being chronically online are now posing a solution to the loneliness epidemic,” said Meghana Dhar, a former Instagram executive who thinks AI friends will only make such problems worse. “It almost seems like the arsonist coming back and being the fireman.”
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> From TFA: “The very platforms that have led to our social isolation and being chronically online are now posing a solution to the loneliness epidemic,” said Meghana Dhar, a former Instagram executive who thinks AI friends will only make such problems worse. “It almost seems like the arsonist coming back and being the fireman.”
Firefighter arson [1]is a definite thing [wikipedia.org]. Usually discovery lead to dismissal or prosecution. Not here.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefighter_arson
I weep (Score:2)
How very very sad for Mark Zuckerberg.
Clickbait headline. Inaccurate? (Score:2)
I'm no Zuckerfan, but nowhere in the article was there a quote of or reference to Zuckerberg saying that he wants most of one's friends to be AI. It might be interpreted as implied by his statement comparing the average American's number of friends to their demand for friendships, but that's a stretch at best. I'm all for pointing out the foibles, flaws, and crimes of influential billionaires, but let's not discredit ourselves by painting with too broad a brush.
Re: Clickbait headline. Inaccurate? (Score:2)
That is not a reach. It is basic math using the statements he made.
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> “The average American I think has, it’s fewer than three friends, three people they’d consider friends, and the average person has demand for meaningfully more, I think it’s like 15 friends,”
If you have at most 3 friends and you propose that AI can meet the demand of "15 friends", well it turns out that 12 AI "friends" would be the most of your friends. This doesn't seem to be much of a stretch of a headline at all....
IA in general? Not trustworthy... (Score:3)
Aside from Zuck being a complete moron regarding what us normal humans want, just remember that most AI agents and entities will be built by large corporations who already DO NOT DESERVE YOUR TRUST, and therefore it stands to reason that most AI entities will also not be deserving of your trust or your tolerance. Most of the big tech companies today are really only one "Bhopal Disaster" away from something like mass murder or manslaughter anyway so be careful who or what you trust and how much access, control, or even view into your life you give them. You and I are still the product being bought and sold by these companies.
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> Google definitely knows all about me, so I would think that Facebook (though they have access to a lot less information) would know something too.
Facebook knows a lot more about you that you think. For one thing Facebook buys all the data feeds and stores about people that are available to be bought. Personal information is their stock in trade and they hoover it up on everybody, even people who have never had a Facebook account.
I recently started seeing a therapist -- protected information under HIPAA -- and the only contact I have had with him is through texting, Gmail and supposedly locked down video platform. He showed up as a friend suggestion o
Re: Recreate the absolute failures of the past (Score:2)
I once downloaded my Facebook data. It claimed my gender was female. It makes me wonder how valuable their data is.
Zuckerberg's grand vision (Score:3)
"Your friends will be my creations that you pay me for."
Another one bound to sour (Score:1)
I have a strong sense that his prediction will fail, much like those that came before it. Meta appears primarily focused on sustaining its profit-driven model, regardless of the potential adverse effects these social platforms may have on their regular users.
Meta needs to be destroyed (Score:2)
Meta has metastasized and must now be destroyed, IMO.
I don't just mean regulated or broken up. I mean completely eliminated. Its code repos must be erased, all backups deleted, and all servers wiped clean to the bare OS.
It's the only way to address to true scale of the threat.
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"Facebook delenda est."
"Most of your friends will be AI" (Score:2)
... and you will visit them using VR headsets.
I don't think his world is everyone else's world.
Humans (Score:2)
Very few humans are worth reading, made it even harder by the amount of noise too many make.
I, for one, welcome our new AI friends.
3 friends?? (Score:1)
"The average American I think has, it’s fewer than three friends, three people they’d consider friends, and the average person has demand for meaningfully more, I think it’s like 15 friends," he said in the interview with podcaster Dwarkesh Patel. ==== Based upon just what measurement, exactly? Facebook "friends". Is there some study backing this presumably weak metric up?
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> "The average American I think has, it’s fewer than three friends, three people they’d consider friends, and the average person has demand for meaningfully more, I think it’s like 15 friends," he said in the interview with podcaster Dwarkesh Patel. ==== Based upon just what measurement, exactly? Facebook "friends". Is there some study backing this presumably weak metric up?
He is saying that he had fewer than three friends. Maybe his wife likes him.
"Can we have existential angst in the void today?" (Score:2)
Wow. Zuckerberg really is the king of innovation. He's invented the next big thing in trash people. Step aside, incels, and make way for "inhumes": the involuntarily human.
Re: "Can we have existential angst in the void tod (Score:1)
"Involuntary Humans" - they already exist, they call themselves furries, and they are FORCING the government to spend BILLIONS in tax dollars on things like litter boxes and fake cat ears, which according to my research are now REQUIRED at all public schools. I mean, you don't have to wear the ears or use the litter, but still.
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but the litter box thing is total crap (and not crap in a litter box... just unadulterated crap.)
Sorry Zuck (Score:2)
Sorry Zuck, just because you don't have any friends, doesn't mean we don't.
The Naked Sun was not an instruction manual (Score:2)
The Asimov book. Robots are the population, humans rarely see each other.
Book published in 1957, Zuck must have had his AI summarize it for him as he missed the point.
Zuck is to busy (Score:2)
Spending his money to actually come to with something that's useful. The whole reason we have this friend problem in the first place is because the algorithms in social media promote loneliness so they can keep people in their platform doomscrolling etc. But that doesn't make money for Zuck. But here is an opportunity for Meta! You can keep people friendless and then sell them friends. It's a hideous plan.
He's completely alien and incompetent (Score:5, Insightful)
Zuckerberg is the poster child for just how useless these people who claim to be brilliant innovators really are when they aren't sucking down the money of either their parents or the one thing they blundered into by sheer luck.
They already absolute worst sort of parasites. And this becomes stupidly obvious every time they try to create something themselves.
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Blundered or outright stole the idea of?
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If the wikipedia story about Harvardconnection is true, he should be a convicted felon and banned from using computers. But being a Peter Thiel startup and having support of the tight knit Jewish community, couldn't have hurt.
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Be careful, zuckerberg's AI friends will come after you. Also, zucky thinks you should make more friends, get on that.
If you look under the hood, it's just authoritarianism. If the headline read, local wealthy man demands you make more friends, you'd think he's a nutjob.
It's that ultra-conservative, nutty religious mantra, "you should live your life, how I say."
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This reminds me a bit of Asimov's [1]Solarians [fandom.com]:
> Eventually, realizing that Solaria might get as crowded as Nexon, they became independent. Strict immigration and birth control were imposed. Population was maintained at twenty thousand, with all the good land divided into estates thousands to tens of thousands square kilometers. Robots numbered at two hundred million. Every person had all the goods and robotic servants he or she could possibly want.
> Within a few centuries, the problems with their peculiar social system became obvious. Solarians abhorred personal contact, making procreation harder and harder. Also, despite the Solarians viewing their society as perfect, no other world wanted to adopt it, leading to growing despair. This led to a combination of low birth rate and many early deaths. The population dropped to five thousand, and the tendency showed no sign of stopping. Contacts with other planets became rare.
By the book 'Foundation and Earth', the Solarians ended up being super weird. Geniuses that keep only robots for company and often kill anyone that enters their land.
[1] https://aliens.fandom.com/wiki/Solarian_(Foundation)