A Look at the NYC Subway's Archaic Signal System
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Deep inside Brooklyn's Hoyt-Schermerhorn station, transit worker Dyanesha Pryor operates a hulking machine the size of a grand piano by manipulating 24 metal levers that control nearby trains. Each command requires a precise sequence of movements, punctuated by metallic clanking as levers slam into place. When Pryor needs to step away, even for a bathroom break, express service must be rerouted until she returns, forcing all trains onto local tracks.
The antiquated "fixed block" signaling divides tracks into approximately 1,000-foot sections. When a train occupies a block, it cuts off electrical current, providing only a general position rather than precise location data. This imprecision requires maintaining buffer zones between trains, significantly limiting capacity as ridership has grown. Maintenance challenges are also piling up, writes the New York Times. Hundreds of cloth-wrapped wires -- rather than modern rubber insulation -- fill back rooms and are prone to failure. When equipment breaks, replacements often must be custom-made in MTA workshops, as many components have been discontinued for decades.
The Metropolitan Transportation Authority has begun replacing this system with communications-based train control (C.B.T.C.), which uses computers and wireless technology to monitor trains' exact locations. Routes already converted to C.B.T.C., including the L line (2006) and 7 line (2018), consistently show the best on-time performance. However, the $25 million per-mile upgrade program faces uncertain funding after the Trump administration threatened to kill New York's congestion pricing plan, which would provide $3 billion for signal modernization.
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/04/20/nyregion/nyc-subway-signals.html
Is it really worth it at $25 million per mile? (Score:2)
The current system may be old, but they can make their own replacement parts. There is no way they can make their own wireless communication equipment when the supplier is no longer available. They will have to upgrade again. And again. And again each time a part becomes unobtainable.
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I would hope that by this point, with all the subway systems worldwide, that there would be some type of standard, so that manufacturers and suppliers are interchangeable. Or if not, you mandate that part of the contract is to give you the specs to be able to contract someone else to produce an alternative (with maybe a 10 year exclusive agreement to purchase from the original contract winner). There are ways to solve this.
Plus, the manufacturer would likely be using chips made using off the shelf component
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'Good point which I hadn't thought of. I'm tired of hearing from our lessers how "old" is an automatic problem. I wonder whether there's a way of salvaging/improving such a system without going full state-of-the-art, with its IP issues, tariff problems, hack-ability, jam-ability and its lack of transparency as the software elites step in to design and implement their new, complex, opaque system (who will run it after installation?).
I don't understand this one... (Score:2)
Can anyone tell me why Trump cares at all about congestion pricing in city where he doesn't live?
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Then you should be apoplectic that Trump would try and stop the congestion tax. You don't live there so why does it matter what they decide to do?