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Bluesky Passes Threads for Active Website Users, But Confronts 'Scammers and Impersonators' (engadget.com)

(Sunday December 01, 2024 @05:29PM (EditorDavid) from the clearing-Bluesky dept.)


Bluesky now has more active website users than Threads in the U.S., according to a graph [1]from the Financial Times . And though Threads still leads in app usage , "Prior to November 5 Threads had five times more daily active users in the U.S. than Bluesky... Now, Threads is only 1.5 times larger than its rival, Similarweb said."

But "the influx of new users has opened up new opportunities for scammers and impersonators," [2]Engadget reported this week :

> A recent analysis by Alexios Mantzarlis, director of the Security Trust and Safety Initiative at Cornell Tech found that 44 percent of the top 100 most-followed accounts on Bluesky had at least one "doppelganger," with most looking like "cheap knock-offs of the bigger account, down to the same bio and profile picture," Mantzarlis wrote in [3]his newsletter Faked Up.

The article highlighted issues with Bluesky's loose account verification policies. And then, Bluesky announced a new change-of-policy Friday. [4] Engadget reports :

> The Bluesky Safety account said that the social media service [5]is removing accounts that are impersonating other people and those squatting on handles... Bluesky now requires parody, satire or fan accounts to label themselves as such in both their handles and their bio. If they don't, or if they only indicate the nature of their account in one of those elements, then they'll be treated as an impersonator and will be removed from the platform. Bluesky now explicitly prohibits identity churning, as well. Accounts that start as impersonators with the purpose of gaining new users, and who then switch to a different identity in an attempt to circumvent the ban, will still get booted off the app. Finally, it says it's exploring "additional options to enhance account verification," though they're not quite ready for rollout.

[6]Bluesky says they've "quadrupled the size of our moderation team, in part to action impersonation reports more quickly. We still have a large backlog of moderation reports due to the influx of new users as we shared previously, though we are making progress." And in addition, "We are working behind the scenes to help many organizations and high-profile individuals set up their verified domain handles."

And there's another problem. "The EU's executive arm on Monday said Bluesky didn't provide information it was required to share under the bloc's Digital Services Act," [7]reports Bloomberg . Bluesky responded that it's working to comply, " consulting with its lawyer to follow the EU's information disclosure rules, a Bluesky spokesperson wrote on Tuesday in an email."

> "All platforms in the EU have to have a dedicated page on their websites where it says how many user numbers they have in the EU and where they are legally established," Thomas Regnier, the commission's spokesperson on digital matters, told reporters. "This is not the case with Bluesky, so this is not followed...."

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> Under the DSA, platforms with more than 45 million users in the bloc qualify as "very large online platforms" and need to follow stricter content moderation rules under the commission's supervision. Breaches can result in fines of up to 6% of their global annual sales... Smaller platforms are still required to comply with the law, but are regulated by the EU country where they have a legal presence. That's so far unclear in the case of Bluesky, which was created expressly to avoid a centralized ownership structure.

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> The commission asked EU member countries' national authorities to investigate "and see if they can find any trace of Bluesky" in their jurisdictions, Regnier said



[1] https://www.ft.com/content/e1b52147-c171-4902-8bce-204ba0905912

[2] https://www.engadget.com/social-media/bluesky-has-a-verification-problem-190047733.html

[3] https://fakedup.substack.com/p/blueskys-doppelganger-problem-world-war-3-economist-instagram-cozy-ai-slop

[4] https://www.engadget.com/apps/bluesky-implements-a-more-aggressive-impersonation-policy-130047163.html

[5] https://bsky.app/profile/safety.bsky.app/post/3lc4h7p676225

[6] https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:eon2iu7v3x2ukgxkqaf7e5np/post/3lc4h7p676225

[7] https://www.luxtimes.lu/businessandfinance/bluesky-says-it-will-comply-with-eu-rules-after-being-called-out/27723588.html



The fuck? (Score:4, Insightful)

by ArmoredDragon ( 3450605 )

Why is slashdot all of a sudden interested in pissing matches between social media companies? Especially microblogging ones. Who the fuck actually uses this crap besides teenieboppers and people with sticks up their asses?

Well for starters it's a technology site (Score:1)

by rsilvergun ( 571051 )

And this is technology. Also we are a bunch of old farts and politics matter to us now and social media has become heavily politicized. Twitter being owned by right-wing billionaire has tremendous impact on our daily lives and we're too old to pretend it doesn't. 30 years ago I could ignore this shit because I was a kid and I didn't have to worry about people depending on me. It's not 30 years ago and I can't pretend this shit doesn't matter anymore.

Re: (Score:2)

by Shaitan ( 22585 )

It doesn't really matter because nobody uses threads and a slightly larger group still fairly labeled as nobody uses bluesky.

Thank god Elon bought X and saved free speech.

Re: (Score:2)

by ArmoredDragon ( 3450605 )

You know what's also technology? Toilet paper. Yet when was the last time slashdot covered pissing matches between toilet paper companies? The closest we've ever gotten is how you only use slashdot for that, and everything that didn't wipe off stays forever mashed into your chair.

Re: (Score:3)

by sinij ( 911942 )

> And this is technology.

No, this issue is pure politics.

> Twitter being owned by right-wing billionaire has tremendous impact on our daily lives...

Try lying less so you won't get community notes quite as often.

Re: (Score:2)

by VeryFluffyBunny ( 5037285 )

Some /.-ers probably work for them.

Re: (Score:2)

by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

The Chinese. They were complaining that the exodus from Twitter is affecting their ability to influence US citizens. Presumably Russia feels the same way.

Re: (Score:2)

by ArchieBunker ( 132337 )

Tech news?

I thought ... (Score:3)

by PPH ( 736903 )

> Bluesky now has more active website users than Threads

... Bluesky was feeding off the disgruntled X users because of its politics. Not so much Threads. But I can understand their concern. As the easiest marks leave X or Threads and head over to Bluesky, so too will all the scammers feeding off of them.

I don't think politics is the driving factor (Score:1)

by rsilvergun ( 571051 )

I'm a lefty and I really wish it was but I really do think it's just people leaving it because Twitter is just so full of pussy pics in bio bots and neo Nazis and snuff films. If you're trying to promote a brand which a lot of people use Twitter for you just can't afford to be associated with that kind of crap and Twitter's owner refuses to moderate the platform for anything besides criticism of said owner.

Re:I don't think politics is the driving factor (Score:4, Interesting)

by Entrope ( 68843 )

> Twitter is just so full of pussy pics in bio bots and neo Nazis and snuff films.

That's only the [1]Media Matters fiction [cnbc.com] version of Twitter. You are not going to find those things unless you specifically go looking for them.

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/29/judge-rules-against-media-matters-request-to-dismiss-lawsuit-by-x.html

Re: (Score:3)

by Shaitan ( 22585 )

Exactly. The only neo-nazi's I've seen are those times Harry Sisson and his Democrat youth team put on BRAND NEW shiny swastika gear to march and pretend they are part of MAGA.

Re: (Score:3)

by edis ( 266347 )

All this, lads, and because:

1. Transition to Bsky has started and is ongoing, wish it luck to stay for the cause of the freedoms.

2. More, than any issues with the moderation, former Twitter, current X, as in crossed-out at a killing task, is suffering rape of the algorithm - my timeline "for you" feed is drown in misfits, opposite to my personal interests - ruZZian, anti-Israel, MAGA propaganda, something ruZZian troll factories are or would-be producing. Marking not being interested and irrelevant does not

Re: (Score:2)

by Shaitan ( 22585 )

You get what you engage with and you [like most people] are probably more likely to comment to argue than agree. They really should dial that back. I think part of the reason it is turned up is they need to farm more ad views because of the left-wing boycotts for free speech.

That said the claims of material being russian, maga being propaganda, pro-ukraine, etc are mostly misinformation and you are more likely to see the truth on X. This causes cognitive dissonance for people who've been taken for a ride by

Re: (Score:2)

by edis ( 266347 )

Your assumptions are fundamentally wrong and to be discarded because of a single fact - this happens out of sudden, platform becomes rigged at some time, for some period. May be made permanent, sure.

Re: (Score:1)

by corrie ( 111769 )

> Twitter is just so full of pussy pics in bio bots and neo Nazis and snuff films

I might have to join X now. Or is this content free?

Re:I don't think politics is the driving factor (Score:4, Informative)

by Shaitan ( 22585 )

"Twitter is just so full of pussy pics in bio bots and neo Nazis and snuff films"

As a regular X user I can tell you get your opinion from your left wing echochamber rather than personal experience. There is less censorship of political views and more lax enforcement of politically correct speech and otherwise it is moderated more or less the same as any other platform.

Roll back the clock to 2010 before woke and critical theories of social justice took over and most every respectable platform looked akin to X now. In fact the views of most of the "right wing extremists" were considered left of center then as well.

Re: (Score:2)

by ArchieBunker ( 132337 )

> As a regular X user I can tell you get your opinion from your left wing echochamber rather than personal experience. There is less censorship of political views and more lax enforcement of politically correct speech and otherwise it is moderated more or less the same as any other platform.

Evidence suggests otherwise.

[1]https://qz.com/elon-musk-x-twi... [qz.com]

[2]https://www.forbes.com/sites/m... [forbes.com]

[3]https://www.theverge.com/2024/... [theverge.com]

[4]https://fortune.com/2023/06/21... [fortune.com]

Maybe you live in an echo chamber as well.

[1] https://qz.com/elon-musk-x-twitter-transparency-brazil-turkey-tesla-1851656960

[2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2024/01/09/elon-musk-silencing-his-critics-as-journalists-are-suspended-by-x/

[3] https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/26/24255298/elon-musk-x-blocks-jd-vance-dossier

[4] https://fortune.com/2023/06/21/elon-musk-declares-cis-cisgender-slurs-twitter-punishable-suspension/

Re: (Score:2)

by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

There is heavy censorship of left and progressive politics. Musk banned the word "cis", for crying out loud.

The fact that a lot of people have left the platform seems to have helped it lurch even further right, as there just aren't the users there to post counter arguments or do community notes.

It's become a huge hard right echo chamber.

Re: (Score:2)

by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

Strange, I don't see any scams on BlueSky. I don't go on twitter much these days, but when I do it's full of crypto and fake news.

Musk recently changed it to heavily down-rank posts with links in them, which really helped the fake news stuff get promoted over stuff that comes with sources.

Some of the more prominent conservative accounts seems to have had Community Notes disabled for them, and notes pointing out issues with right wing talking points often get deleted.

It's got far worse since the election, ev

Re: (Score:2)

by freedom_surfer ( 203272 )

The easiest marks, the ones eating up all the conspiracies and buying the Ivermectin won't leave. The ones that try, because they are starved of their primitive drive to 'own the libs', will wither up and die from lack of the oxygen they need. X will largely become like Slashdot, where conservatives have sorta killed real engagement through bullying and misinformation. With a much better user driven moderation system, it will be difficult for actual scammers and miscreants of misinformation to survive, l

obligatory (Score:1)

by dawg1234 ( 6925868 )

m. b.

So how does it compare to Mastodon? (Score:1)

by will_die ( 586523 )

Mastodon has a big amount of users for a while, until they started eating themselves.

Then again Mastodon and bluesky look to have attracted the biggest scum of the internet.

The Gnomian plan for Bluesky (Score:2)

by sinij ( 911942 )

1. Do exactly what had the old Twitter losing money.

2. Somehow get all the users.

3. Find a way to ban or sabotage X

4. Profit!

Bus error -- please leave by the rear door.