Difficult to have open conversations with bots, russian psyops, and actual Nazi's, along with actual sexist people ("Your body, my choice", isn't something we can really have an open conversation about).

There's disagreements and there's "You don't have any right to exist" and "Status quo is just fine, just shutup and tolerate being denigrated as subhuman for merely EXISTING, without any action"

I imagine you will be arguing people should be having open conversations on who will be rounded up and put into concentration camps? Or perhaps open conversations on how much fraud should be permitted because of how wealthy someone is? Or perhaps open conversations on how many deaths are acceptable in the pursuit of right wing ideals?

It's ironic, for decades right wingers dismissed everyone else concern, and finally now that they have been on the receiving end, they cry and say "Why so mean and toxic" without a shred of self realization.

> The only people moving away from X are individuals who are are unable to have open conversations with people they don't agree with.

It's hard to hold a conversation about any topic when the disagreeable people are simply trying to flood you own by posting crap in response.

It's one thing if the responses were informed debate. But no, it generally devolves into general hatred all around - racism, misogyny and other crap whose aim is to simply make it impossible to provide informed replies.

It's like debating the benefits of cycling around town, when the people opposed, rather than bring up honest arguments and counter evidence, simply decide to "roll coal" at "the greenies". (If you don't get it, it's what happens if you squirt diesel in the tailpipe - it causes a huge plume of black smoke to be emitted from the tailpipe).

Debate is impossible if the other side refuses to debate. That is the reason for free speech - that the solution to disagreeable speech is more speech.

But as long as Elon decides things like "cis" are banned terms, or some topics are just to rile up his people, more speech just won't happen. It's not unusuak for Elon to post something that's partially true, but the nuance is lost - the whole point is to get people to repost it blindly without thinking or critical analysis - to extract the truth from that nugget.

Elon calls himself an engineer, but he goes for the emotional response without engaging his logical thinking side to actually see what's going on.

Not that Bluesky is likely any different. Though the primary appeal is that both sides can debate something (i.e., "more speech") equally since no one can really control it or censor it.

> The only people moving away from X are individuals who are are unable to have open conversations with people they don't agree with.

The same could be said about people who are staying. Just sayin', it cuts both ways and your comment is pretty closed/narrow-minded too. To be fair, it's hard to have discussions with people who believe fiction to be fact and are unwilling to consider, or care about, the actual truth.

Well then you will absolutely LOVE this new service called bsky, they have absolutely zero protections against bots and even encourage bot creation!

Have you not realized that social media does not actually solve problems, but merely pretends to at the surface level but under the covers acts like every other hazardous social media service?

[1]https://docs.bsky.app/docs/starter-templates/bots [bsky.app]

[1] https://docs.bsky.app/docs/starter-templates/bots

Only to somebody who actually is one. A clear view of yourself is not part of _that_ package.

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musk bad

he never invented anything

he is just spending government money

he enables fascists on twitter

he promised we would be driving self-driving cars on Mars by now, just to get money from investors

he killed my dad

If Bluesky would give the intolerant lefties a place to vent, while leaving normal folks in peace, then it would not be a bad thing.

[1]Try again [imgur.com]. What you really meant to say is there is a large group of people whose only response to everything is MAGA! and who is unwilling to listen to, let alone consider, any idea which contradicts their bigotry. For example, when you tell them the stock market, as a rule, does better under Democrats than Republicans, they lose their shit despite the facts speaking for themselves. When you tell them that women trying to be seen as equal to men [2]don't commit 80% of all violent crime [imgur.com], or that 99% of all murders are committed by men, they will immediately change the subject.

So try again.

[1] https://i.imgur.com/rmAHYVb.jpeg

[2] https://i.imgur.com/JPmkJLr.png

Look at you. Big, strong alpha male, triggered by liberal diatribe.