Solar Glut: Half of California's Solar Power Sometimes Goes to Waste, Research Shows (latimes.com)
- Reference: 0175535935
- News link: https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/24/11/25/0316224/solar-glut-half-of-californias-solar-power-sometimes-goes-to-waste-research-shows
- Source link: https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-11-24/california-has-so-much-solar-power-that-increasingly-it-goes-to-waste
And it was curtailed "either on the orders of the state's grid operator or because prices had plummeted because of the glut. The waste would have been even larger if California had not paid utilities in other states to take the excess solar energy, documents from the state's grid operator show."
> That means green energy paid for by California electricity customers is sent away, lowering bills for residents of other states. Arizona's largest public utility reaped $69 million in savings last year by buying from the market California created to get rid of its excess solar power. The utility returned that money to its customers as a credit on their bills. Also reaping profits are electricity traders, including banks and hedge funds. The increasing oversupply of solar power has created a situation where energy traders can buy the excess at prices so low they become negative, said energy consultant Gary Ackerman, the former executive director of the Western Power Trading Forum. That means the solar plant is paying the traders to take it. "This is all being underwritten by California ratepayers," Ackerman said...
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> The solar glut also means higher electricity bills for Californians, since they are effectively paying to generate the power but not using it. California's electric rates are [3]roughly twice the nation's average, with only Hawaii having higher rates. Rates at Southern California Edison and Pacific Gas & Electric [4]increased by 51% over the last three years. "Ratepayers aren't getting the energy they've paid for," said Ron Miller, an energy industry consultant in Denver. He calculates that the retail value of the solar energy thrown away in a year would be more than $1 billion.
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> Gov. Gavin Newsom's advisors and those who manage the state's electric grid say they are working to reduce the curtailments, including by building more industrial-scale battery storage facilities that soak up the excess solar power during the day and then release it at night. Officials in the governor's office declined to be interviewed, but issued a statement saying the curtailments are often because of congestion on transmission lines, rather than a statewide oversupply of power. The state has been spending heavily to upgrade transmission lines to ease the congestion. "It's also important to have extra energy resources available that can help the state during periods of extreme weather and historic heatwaves when demand is particularly high, which have happened the past few years," the statement said...
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> The commercial solar industry contends that the expansion of storage capacity to bank solar power will eventually eliminate the glut.
[1] https://ecoblock.berkeley.edu/blog/californias-growing-solar-and-wind-problem/#
[2] https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-11-24/california-has-so-much-solar-power-that-increasingly-it-goes-to-waste
[3] https://www.eia.gov/state/data.php?sid=CA
[4] https://www.publicadvocates.cpuc.ca.gov/-/media/cal-advocates-website/files/press-room/reports-and-analyses/240722-public-advocates-office-q2-2024-electric-rates-report.pdf
Holy Moly (Score:2)
USD 0.37/kWh
And I thought we had it bad in Australia at USD0.21
Thats got to make for some mighty painful power bills.
There is so much grift in renewable energy.
Maybe Elon should think about nuclear instead or Mars!
Wait, what? (Score:2)
Am I reading this correctly? California pays other utilities to take electricity it cannot use? How can that possibly make sense? Surely they can find a neighboring state (or Mexico) willing to buy the electricity?
PGE's fault for not having time-shifting prices (Score:5, Interesting)
When prices go negative, PGE doesn't drop the cost of my electric power. If they did, I'd be running my AC and charging my car. Instead, I pay the same amount from midnight to 3PM. PGE can burn, like they made the state burn.
Something is amiss. (Score:2, Troll)
> Congestion-related curtailment is the dominant reason for curtailment.
What this really means is that [1]CAISO [caiso.com] is refusing to build out the transmission lines in a timely manner and it's getting worse. Since CAISO is a shareholder driven organization, I wouldn't be surprised if the process is being intentionally retarded by fossil fuel investors.
[1] https://www.caiso.com/
Distributed battery storage (Score:2)
Sounds like people with solar surplus need to have their own batteries so that they can use their own surplus power later on. Participating in a public utility that makes payments to hedge funds sounds self destructive for rate payers. It also sounds like the solar plants should be adjacent to base load generation, since the transmission lines there are probably legacies from when the base load plant was producing a lot more than base load.
If it weren't CA, Bitcoin could solve this (Score:2)
What a waste!
Bitcoin mining could solve this and monetize the unused energy -- oh right, it's California. So for political reasons, bitcoin is probably off the table. And so it's better to just throw all that power away?
Tax rebate helps (Score:2)
Having solar panels that you got for a discount helps. And there are some incentives now for battery storage. Which is good because PG&E doesn't really want to pay me much for my solar generation anymore.