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DeepSeek's First Reasoning Model R1-Lite-Preview Beats OpenAI o1 Performance (venturebeat.com)

(Wednesday November 20, 2024 @05:50PM (BeauHD) from the would-you-look-at-that dept.)


An anonymous reader quotes a report from VentureBeat:

> DeepSeek, an AI offshoot of Chinese quantitative hedge fund High-Flyer Capital Management focused on [1]releasing high performance open source tech , has unveiled the R1-Lite-Preview, its latest reasoning-focused large language model, available for now exclusively through [2]DeepSeek Chat , its web-based AI chatbot. Known for its innovative contributions to the open-source AI ecosystem, DeepSeek's new release aims to bring high-level reasoning capabilities to the public while maintaining its commitment to accessible and transparent AI. And the R1-Lite-Preview, despite only being available through the chat application for now, is already turning heads by [3]offering performance nearing and in some cases exceeding OpenAI's vaunted o1-preview model .

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> Like that model released in September 2024, DeepSeek-R1-Lite-Preview exhibits "chain-of-thought" reasoning, showing the user the different chains or trains of "thought" it goes down to respond to their queries and inputs, documenting the process by explaining what it is doing and why. While some of the chains/trains of thoughts may appear nonsensical or even erroneous to humans, DeepSeek-R1-Lite-Preview appears on the whole to be strikingly accurate, even answering "trick" questions that have tripped up other, older, yet powerful AI models such as GPT-4o and Claude's Anthropic family, including "how many letter Rs are in the word Strawberry?" and "which is larger, 9.11 or 9.9?"



[1] https://news.slashdot.org/story/24/06/18/226232/chinas-deepseek-coder-becomes-first-open-source-coding-model-to-beat-gpt-4-turbo

[2] https://chat.deepseek.com/

[3] https://venturebeat.com/ai/deepseeks-first-reasoning-model-r1-lite-preview-turns-heads-beating-openai-o1-performance/



TOtally useless (Score:3)

by GeekBoy ( 10877 )

I asked it about Tienamen Square and it immediately said that it was a forbidden topic of discussion. WHen I asked it what topics were forbidden it refused to tell me and purposely decided to be vague reasoning that even listing the topics would be tantamount to discussing them or informing people about them which would be against the interests/desires of the government.

There is no point in using a Chinese AI as you will never be able to discuss anything that the Communist party doesn't want you to talk about. For fun I asked it its opinion of XI, and it also refused to give any answer at all.

Totally useless. I don't care how well you reason if you refuse to talk about anything important.

Re: (Score:2)

by aldousd666 ( 640240 )

Pliny (github user elder_plinus) has a nice jailbreak prompt you can use to get around that in his jailbreak repo. It's still great for math and science and coding even without breaking it though.

Ope! it's official now (Score:2)

by aldousd666 ( 640240 )

Once this news hits slashdot, it's official and openAI will fire back with their release forthwith.

$157B (Score:2)

by bill_mcgonigle ( 4333 ) *

OpenAI is valued at $157B because it's commonly believed they have the secret sauce.

One day this guy is finally fed up with his middle-class existence and
decides to do something about it. He calls up his best friend, who is a
mathematical genius. "Look," he says, "do you suppose you could find some
way mathematically of guaranteeing winning at the race track? We could
make a lot of money and retire and enjoy life." The mathematician thinks
this over a bit and walks away mumbling to himself.
A week later his friend drops by to ask the genius if he's had any
success. The genius, looking a little bleary-eyed, replies, "Well, yes,
actually I do have an idea, and I'm reasonably sure that it will work, but
there a number of details to be figured out.
After the second week the mathematician appears at his friend's house,
looking quite a bit rumpled, and announces, "I think I've got it! I still have
some of the theory to work out, but now I'm certain that I'm on the right
track."
At the end of the third week the mathematician wakes his friend by
pounding on his door at three in the morning. He has dark circles under his
eyes. His hair hasn't been combed for many days. He appears to be wearing
the same clothes as the last time. He has several pencils sticking out from
behind his ears and an almost maniacal expression on his face. "WE CAN DO
IT! WE CAN DO IT!!" he shrieks. "I have discovered the perfect solution!!
And it's so EASY! First, we assume that horses are perfect spheres in simple
harmonic motion..."