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Small Modular Nuclear Reactor Partnership Announced between America and Ukraine (kyivindependent.com)

(Saturday November 16, 2024 @05:34PM (EditorDavid) from the power-plays dept.)


An anonymous reader shared [1]this report from the Kyiv Independent :

> The United States will partner with Ukraine to transition Ukraine's coal-fired plants to small modular nuclear reactors, and to use them to help decarbonize its steel industry, the countries announced on November 16 at the U.N. Climate Change Conference in Baku, Azerbaijan...

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> The partnership will build a roadmap and provide technical support to "rebuild, modernize, and decarbonize Ukraine's steel industry with small modular reactors," according to a [2]statement from the U.S. State Department ... It will also "facilitate the transition of Ukraine's coal-fired power plants to secure and safe SMR nuclear power plants utilizing existing infrastructure and retraining the workforce," the statement read.

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> Another project announced at the conference, known as COP29, will build a pilot plant in Ukraine to demonstrate production of clean hydrogen and ammonia using simulated small modular reactor technology.

That clean hydrogen/ammonia project involves a multinational public-private consortium which also includes Japan and South Korea, [3]according to the U.S. State Department . Their announcement says the three projects "will help position Ukraine to take a leadership role on secure and safe nuclear energy" (as well as industrial decarbonization).

Three years ago the U.S. State Department launched a program to [4]help countries develop nuclear energy programs "to support clean energy goals under the highest international standards for nuclear safety, security, and nonproliferation." That program will send $30 million for these three projects...



[1] https://kyivindependent.com/new-us-ukraine-energy-partnership-will-develop-small-modular-nuclear-reactors-for-ukraines-steel-industry/

[2] https://www.state.gov/the-united-states-and-ukraine-announce-partnership-on-leading-edge-small-modular-reactor-projects-at-cop29/

[3] https://www.state.gov/the-united-states-and-ukraine-announce-partnership-on-leading-edge-small-modular-reactor-projects-at-cop29/

[4] https://www.state.gov/program-to-create-pathways-to-safe-and-secure-nuclear-energy-included-in-biden-harris-administrations-bold-plans-to-address-the-climate-crisis/



What could possibly go wrong (Score:2, Insightful)

by donstenk ( 74880 )

With nuclear power in a war zone.

we can have an other chernobyl (Score:2)

by Joe_Dragon ( 2206452 )

we can have an other chernobyl

Re: (Score:2)

by jhoegl ( 638955 )

With Russia, they will likely throw a nuke at the area and say the power station went up.

Re: (Score:2)

by Narcocide ( 102829 )

Well, in this particular case, adding a bunch of (hypothetically) meltdown-safe SMR's won't appreciably change that. There's a conspicuously old-school style "bomb fuel factory" [1]nuclear plant [slashdot.org] right in the middle of this war zone already.

[1] https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/24/08/12/019244/fire-damages-russian-occupied-nuclear-plant-in-ukraine

Re: (Score:1)

by Anonymous Coward

[1]I think we already have an idea [wikipedia.org].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_of_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine_on_nuclear_power_plants

Re: (Score:2)

by dinfinity ( 2300094 )

You're missing the point. Ukraine is very much Not In My BackYard.

What better place to test potentially dangerous new technology than on far away foreign soil?

Re: (Score:2)

by quonset ( 4839537 )

> You're missing the point. Ukraine is very much Not In My BackYard.

> What better place to test potentially dangerous new technology than on far away foreign soil?

Then why not near Sudzha, Ukraine? It's far enough away from any large populations that if anything goes wrong there are fewer people who might be affected.

Re: (Score:3)

by quonset ( 4839537 )

> With nuclear power in a war zone.

You mean the largest nuclear power plant in all of Europe which is currently [1]occupied by Russian troops [bbc.com]? The one where Russia has been threatening the Ukrainian workers? The one where Russia has military equipment parked [2]inside the plant [cnn.com] and on the grounds? The one which is operating only by the thinnest of threads due to the Russians [3]not allowing basic maintenance [energy.gov]? Or did you mean [4]all the other nuclear plants [npr.org] Ukraine is operating inside the war zone?

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61524376

[2] https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/19/europe/ukraine-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-plant-russian-vehicles-intl-hnk/index.html

[3] https://www.energy.gov/nnsa/russias-disregard-nuclear-safety-and-security-ukraine

[4] https://www.npr.org/2023/09/06/1197574725/russia-ukraine-war-nuclear-power-plants

Re: (Score:1)

by Narcocide ( 102829 )

So if something goes wrong in their beta test they can blame it on saboteurs, obviously. Seriously, I'm sure they're thinking this will help the domestic markets in the long run. I just wanna know which companies are involved...

What are the investment opportunities in SMRs? (Score:1)

by jmalenko ( 807279 )

1. Reading all the news about SMRs, they are in development stage. 2. This project will be in Ukraine's backyard. So someone is accepting the risks... 3. From long term investment viewpoint, what are the investment opportunities now?

Re: (Score:1)

by Narcocide ( 102829 )

My question exactly. There's [1]this [slashdot.org] hot tip from a while back but I think it's gone cold; I thought I heard later they were scrapping the plans despite receiving approval. There's also [2]this one [slashdot.org] from more recently. I'm not sure about either though. Can anyone else weigh in here?

[1] https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/22/04/19/224211/rolls-royce-expects-uk-approval-for-small-nuclear-reactors-by-mid-2024

[2] https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/24/11/14/2211204/datacenters-line-up-for-750mw-of-oklos-nuclear-waste-powered-small-reactors

Ukraine will likely... (Score:2, Insightful)

by MpVpRb ( 1423381 )

...disappear once Putin's boyfriend takes over the US

Re: (Score:2)

by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 )

Given how variable/changeable Trump can be, there is a possibility you're right. But given some of his cabinet selections (especially Rubio), I suspect the more likely outcome is Trump offers Putin the 20% of Ukraine he already has annexed in exchange for a cease fire (which still sucks).

If there's a DMZ, the question will be - will it be carved out of the space Russia already occupies, or will Trump tell Zelinsky to give up even more territory for that?

Anyway... if that's what Trump does, hopefully it is p

Re: (Score:3)

by quonset ( 4839537 )

Essentially what you're saying is the draft dodger would want Ukraine to surrender. Seems about right. He couldn't be bothered to defend his own country so why bother helping a fledgling democracy when he can ingratiate himself with a dictator.

Great idea! /s (Score:1)

by tyroxy ( 1291304 )

In the same line as placing biowarfare research facilities there. In this case, it creates a direct threat to Russia: what kind of nuclear materials is the US-led consortium assembling? It's also an ideal target for a false-flag activity. Destroy other infrastructure targets like Nordstream, suggests one US politician. Blowing up a large source of nuclear fuel, perhaps by some terrorists or putative Russian saborteurs, will open the door to other nuclear "surprises." It's of a piece with the Poland bases

Nuclear proliferation... yay! (Score:2)

by Shaitan ( 22585 )

Luckily this won't really happen. Trump will quash this.

The Martian Canals were clearly the Martian's last ditch effort!