GIMP 3.0 Enters RC Testing After 20 Years (tomshardware.com)
(Monday November 11, 2024 @10:30PM (BeauHD)
from the decades-in-the-making dept.)
- Reference: 0175452113
- News link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/24/11/11/2144232/gimp-30-enters-rc-testing-after-20-years
- Source link: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/free-open-source-photoshop-alternative-finally-enters-release-candidate-testing-after-20-years-the-transition-from-gimp-2-x-to-gimp-3-0-took-two-decades
[1]GIMP 3.0, the long-awaited upgrade from the popular open-source image editor, has [2]entered the release candidate phase , signaling that a stable version may be available by the end of this year or early 2025. Tom's Hardware reports:
> So, what has changed with the debut of GIMP 3? The new interface is still quite recognizable to classic GIMP users but has been considerably smoothed out and is far more scalable to high-resolution displays than it used to be. Several familiar icons have been carefully converted to SVGs or Scalable Vector Graphics, enabling supremely high-quality, scalable assets.
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> While PNGs, or Portable Network Graphics, are also known to be high-quality due to their lack of compression, they are still suboptimal compared to SVGs when SVGs are applicable. The work of converting GIMP's tool icons to SVG is still in progress per the original blog post, but it's good that developer Denis Rangelov has already started on the work.
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> Many aspects of the GIMP 3.0 update are almost wholly on the backend for ensuring project and plugin compatibility with past projects made with previous versions of GIMP. To summarize: a public GIMP API is being stabilized to make it easier to port GIMP 2.10-based plugins and scripts to GIMP 3.0. Several bugs related to color accuracy have been fixed to improve color management while still maintaining compatibility with past GIMP projects.
You can read the GIMP team's blog post [3]here .
[1] https://www.gimp.org/
[2] https://www.tomshardware.com/software/free-open-source-photoshop-alternative-finally-enters-release-candidate-testing-after-20-years-the-transition-from-gimp-2-x-to-gimp-3-0-took-two-decades
[3] https://www.gimp.org/news/2024/11/06/gimp-3-0-RC1-released/
> So, what has changed with the debut of GIMP 3? The new interface is still quite recognizable to classic GIMP users but has been considerably smoothed out and is far more scalable to high-resolution displays than it used to be. Several familiar icons have been carefully converted to SVGs or Scalable Vector Graphics, enabling supremely high-quality, scalable assets.
>
> While PNGs, or Portable Network Graphics, are also known to be high-quality due to their lack of compression, they are still suboptimal compared to SVGs when SVGs are applicable. The work of converting GIMP's tool icons to SVG is still in progress per the original blog post, but it's good that developer Denis Rangelov has already started on the work.
>
> Many aspects of the GIMP 3.0 update are almost wholly on the backend for ensuring project and plugin compatibility with past projects made with previous versions of GIMP. To summarize: a public GIMP API is being stabilized to make it easier to port GIMP 2.10-based plugins and scripts to GIMP 3.0. Several bugs related to color accuracy have been fixed to improve color management while still maintaining compatibility with past GIMP projects.
You can read the GIMP team's blog post [3]here .
[1] https://www.gimp.org/
[2] https://www.tomshardware.com/software/free-open-source-photoshop-alternative-finally-enters-release-candidate-testing-after-20-years-the-transition-from-gimp-2-x-to-gimp-3-0-took-two-decades
[3] https://www.gimp.org/news/2024/11/06/gimp-3-0-RC1-released/
The UX from Hell (Score:3)
by thesjaakspoiler ( 4782965 )
Why can't they come up with a user friendly UX in these 30 years?
Even copying the UI from MSPaint would be a great improvement.
Re: (Score:3)
by arglebargle_xiv ( 2212710 )
If you just want a vastly-better-than-MS-paint replacement, could I suggest [1]Paint.NET [getpaint.net]? Does most of what most people will need it for, and has pretty much zero learning curve.
[1] https://www.getpaint.net/
Re: (Score:2)
by echo123 ( 1266692 )
> If you just want a vastly-better-than-MS-paint replacement, could I suggest [1]Paint.NET [getpaint.net]? Does most of what most people will need it for, and has pretty much zero learning curve.
But wait! It's almost 2025 and now there's [2]Photopea [photopea.com]. Webassembly required.
[1] https://www.getpaint.net/
[2] https://www.photopea.com/
cmyk support? nfT (Score:2)
by yooy ( 1146753 )
cmyk support? nfT
Colour (Score:3)
Last i used gimp 3 it was seriously broken in many areas The colour picker just outright lied about what is was seeing. Does gimp work properly in different colour spaces now? Ie can i now work in adobe 1998 colour space?
Re:Colour (Score:4, Insightful)
I am afraid I agree!
GIMP is one of those [powerful] and feature rich open source applications that gives open source software a bad name. It's not easy to use or get used to.
What it needs is a check-box of some sort that would change the entire interface to appear like Photoshop's.
This is because it's being touted (by some people), as Photoshop's alterative. Folks from Photoshop would find an easier time transitioning for sure, and those new to GIMP would have an opportunity to try out Photoshop's interface.
Re:Colour (Score:4, Informative)
It's really not a Photoshop alternative though.
If you need anything aside from destructive adjustments, the clone tool, and some transparency in RGBA it's pretty much useless.
Fortunately with 3.0 that may be about to change. Hopefully it'll bring us some of those long missing features from the late 90s Photoshop era.
3.x will likely bring me what I need for personal use very soon.
Re: (Score:2)
I don't really understand the difference but I noticed this; it looks like they've added something along those lines:
" Non-Destructive Editing Updates
Since our last update, we have continued to make improvements and bug fixes to our non-destructive filter code. Many of these issues were reported by Sam Lester during the developing and testing of his third-party GEGL filters.
While non-destructive filters have been a very popular addition to GIMP 3.0, some early adopters have requested that we provide a way to
Re: (Score:3)
> "What it needs is a check-box of some sort that would change the entire interface to appear like Photoshop's"
[1]https://thegimptutorials.com/h... [thegimptutorials.com]
[2]https://github.com/Diolinux/Ph... [github.com]
It is not "out of the box", but a collection of config files. I have never used it, just looked interesting.
[1] https://thegimptutorials.com/how-to-make-gimp-look-like-photoshop/
[2] https://github.com/Diolinux/PhotoGIMP
Re: (Score:3)
I say Adobe gives closed source software a bad name. I used Gimp as my first editor and when I tried to use Photoshop I hated the interface.
Who still uses a single huge window in which the inage windows open? Ugh, that's so.., Windows.
Anyways, Photoshop is not the be-all and end-all UI that everyone prefers. I prefer Gimp classic interface.
Re:Colour (Score:4, Informative)
> "Last i used gimp 3 it was seriously broken in many areas The colour picker just outright lied about what is was seeing."
[1]https://www.gimp.org/news/2024... [gimp.org]
"we have found and fixed a number of bugs and missed areas that needed to be color space aware. We have also reviewed reports by color expert Elle Stone to make sure that the color values shown by GIMP are as accurate as possible."
> "Does gimp work properly in different colour spaces now? Ie can i now work in adobe 1998 colour space?"
[2]http://www.mrvicaphotography.c... [mrvicaphotography.com]
"This article is about showing you how to use any ICC profile youâ(TM)d like in GIMP and then the choice can be yours"
The article has a missing link which is this: [3]https://www.adobe.com/digitali... [adobe.com] The Adobe 1998 color image encoding ICC is copyrighted and can't be included in GIMP for obvious reasons.
[1] https://www.gimp.org/news/2024/11/06/gimp-3-0-RC1-released/#color-space-invasion
[2] http://www.mrvicaphotography.com/how-to-add-icc-profiles-in-gimp.html
[3] https://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/adobergb.html
read the link you posted... (Score:2, Interesting)
Adobe says nothing of the sort. First it's not an issue of copyright and not even clear how it could be an issue of copyright. What they say is that if you include that color profile you can't call it Adobe RGB, only that it is "compatible with Adobe RGB." This is a trademark issue and a very very minor one. So not only are you dead wrong but it's from the exact link you posted. Like, am I talking with an AI??
Re: (Score:2)
Perhaps you didn't read the actual download pages? For an individual:
"Adobe also grants you the rights to distribute the Software only (a) as embedded within digital image files and (b) on a standalone basis. No other distribution of the Software is allowed; including, without limitation, distribution of the Software when incorporated into or bundled with any application software."
And for Bundling:
" If you distribute the Software on a standalone or bundled basis, you will do so by first obtaining the agree
Re: (Score:2)
> "the color space is inherently public domain and can be included in GIMP or anywhere else."
Then why didn't the project just include that color space and call it something else, like "Clay Color Space"?
Re: Colour (Score:3)
That same question could be asked about a lot of shit that GIMP has neglected/refused to add over the 3 decades of its existence. What it typically has boiled down to is petulance by the devs and the typical OSS fanboi nonsense that because they are typically avocational users that it's preferable to act morally superior to and alienate actual professionals looking for specific features that the devs don't even understand the use of.