Interview with Programmer Steve Yegge On the Future of AI Coding (sourceforge.net)
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- News link: https://developers.slashdot.org/story/24/11/07/1926221/interview-with-programmer-steve-yegge-on-the-future-of-ai-coding
- Source link: https://sourceforge.net/articles/the-evolution-and-future-of-ai-coding-sourcegraph-sourceforge-podcast-episode-24/
Steve has nearly 30 years of programming experience working at Geoworks, Amazon, Google, Grab and now SourceGraph, working to build out the Cody AI assistant platform. He's not shy about sharing his opinions or predictions for the industry, no matter how difficult it may be for some to hear. "I'm going to make the claim that ... line-oriented programming, which we've done for the last 40, 50 years, ... is going away. It is dying just like assembly language did, and it will be completely dead within five years."
You can watch the episode [3]on YouTube and stream on [4]all major podcast platforms . A transcription of the podcast is available [5]here .
[1] https://www.linkedin.com/in/steveyegge/
[2] https://sourceforge.net/articles/category/sourceforge-podcast/
[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVyVpIq1Pp8
[4] https://sourceforgepodcast.buzzsprout.com/2330467/follow
[5] https://sourceforge.net/articles/the-evolution-and-future-of-ai-coding-sourcegraph-sourceforge-podcast-episode-24/
just like assembly language did? (Score:2)
If this guy thinks that, he's not really a programmer. Also, "assembly language" did not go away. He's obviously not worked as a programmer on the 80% of programming jobs.
But hey, who can tell the difference when "people who are just getting into the industry" call themselves programmers but don't know programming and will be incapable of knowing whether AI generated code works or not.
What a society we live in where the most important things to repeat lies over and over.
Re: just like assembly language did? (Score:4, Interesting)
You might want to brush up on who this guy is: [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Yegge
Even in the summary we have a crock of shit. (Score:2)
> "We're moving from where you have to write the code to where the LLM will write the code and you're just having a conversation with it about the code,"
No. We're not. That's not a thing LLMs can actually do. They seem like they're having a conversation because each piece of text seems like it should flow from the previous text, but it's not actually a conversation in the sense that it has an idea, and your replies affect and change that idea. There's no dialectic to it. It's just responsive to a rollin
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you're very confidently wrong, i respect that.
Software companies should be scared (Score:2)
Imagine if everyone could write their own software. The days of this stupid shit where EULA's and regulation stop people from protecting themselves against anti-competitive software companies. All the shit they do like phone home routines, and those coupled with stuff like pinned certificates that prevent you from seeing what traffic companies are sending about you from software that is on your machine. Imagine when EULA's that are restrictive and prevent you from doing the things you want to do are all irr
Esteemed programmer! (Score:2)
I checked his LinkedIn account, he's one of my 3rd-degree connections. Hot dog! Maybe one day I'll graduate to being a 2nd-degree connection!
I'd argue same problem exists... (Score:3)
Can't have an effective conversation without precise terminology. And that same terminology was what held back inexperienced people from getting what they wanted from previous internet searches (against forum posts, etc).
Both knowing what can be easily done, and what to call that, are both very important to any software changes... with or without AI. Best case AI will eventually be able to translate paragraphs of talking around something into the actual thing, but that's just doing the PM's work too (translating requirements from the business owner).
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It's neat that AI will be able to code in five years, since the AI we have now sure can't.
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> Can't have an effective conversation without precise terminology. And that same terminology was what held back inexperienced people from getting what they wanted from previous internet searches (against forum posts, etc).
I'd go much, much further deeper than that.
Computer interactions (in order to create something using them as tools, not just using them for entertainment) require discipline. This applies to most, if not all types of work, from drawing something to creating the next operating system. Anyone can "use", say, MS Paint, at its basic level. Click this, drag that, and you get a very basic drawing. But if you want to be proficient with it, you need to develop certain skills.
Coding with help of LLMs is no different
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Never-mind that even if you could just ask the AI to do it, you'd not have a job in doing so nor would there be a "programming" industry. It would just be a prompt that some office assistant or Project Manager dumped the requirements into as part of their other duties. There wouldn't be a special paid position to just input a prompt into a computer, like the C-Levels keep claiming there will be, because that would be seen as an unnecessary expense to be cut.