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Canada Bans TikTok Citing National Security Concerns (www.cbc.ca)

(Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:30PM (BeauHD) from the doomscroll-at-your-own-risk dept.)


The federal government of Canada has [1]ordered TikTok to shut down its operations in the country , citing national security concerns. However, Canadians will still be able to access the app and use it to create content. "The decision to use a social media application or platform is a personal choice," said Innovation Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne.

"We came to the conclusion that these activities that were conducted in Canada by TikTok and their offices would be injurious to national security. I'm not at liberty to go into much detail, but I know Canadians would understand when you're saying the government of Canada is taking measures to protect national security, that's serious." CBC News reports:

> Champagne urged Canadians to use TikTok "with eyes wide open." Critics have claimed that TikTok users' data could be obtained by the Chinese government. "Obviously, parents and anyone who wants to use social platform should be mindful of the risk," he said. The decision was made in accordance with the Investment Canada Act, which allows for the review of foreign investments that may harm Canada's national security.

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> Former CSIS director David Vigneault told CBC News it's "very clear" from the app's design that data gleaned from its users "is available to the government of China" and its large-scale data harvesting goals. "Most people can say, 'Why is it a big deal for a teenager now to have their data [on TikTok]?' Well in five years, in 10 years, that teenager will be a young adult, will be engaged in different activities around the world," he said at the time. "As an individual, I would say that I would absolutely not recommend someone have TikTok."



[1] https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tiktok-canada-review-1.7375965



Re:I'd rather my data go to the Chinese government (Score:4, Informative)

by Anonymous Coward

Given the recent example of India assassinating someone in Canada, I think China can reach you.

Re: (Score:2)

by Entrope ( 68843 )

You're absolutely right, if we just ignore [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org], their other intelligence and cyberwarfare activities, genocide of Uyghurs (after Tibetans), enabling Russia's aggression...

The US and Israel targeting known international terrorists is absolutely mild in comparison.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_police_overseas_service_stations

Re: (Score:2)

by angel'o'sphere ( 80593 )

There is no genocide.

You are an idiot.

Uyghurs have their own autonomous reigned territory.

Uyghurs have their own autonomous government.

Uyghurs have their own autonomous military, albeit integrated into the Chinese main forces.

Uyghurs have their own autonomous laws, courts, judges, police.

Uyghurs have their own autonomous schools, language(s), religion, culture.

Since decades, Chinas rulers are proclaiming China as "the land of thousand cultures".

It is encouraged to keep your own culture, language, believes a

Re: (Score:2)

by Kernel Kurtz ( 182424 )

> LOL, except they never have done anything like that. Meanwhile USA has. Russia has. Israel has. India has. etc.. etc.. etc...

China has illegal "police stations" in Canada. They are not our friends, and Winnie the Pooh can go fuck himself.

[1]https://www.cbc.ca/news/politi... [www.cbc.ca]

[1] https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/foreign-interference-inquiry-rcmp-1.7341663

Re: (Score:2)

by Kernel Kurtz ( 182424 )

> Except they aren't even close to "police stations". That's why you put "police stations" in quotations.

Yes, they are not legitimate police stations. In fact they have no legitimate reason to exist at all, that is why we are shutting them down.

> Again... something else entirely different from ASSASSINATION attempts.

Feel free to imagine your shithole dictatorship is somehow better than others. I hope it brings you comfort.

Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

by Baron_Yam ( 643147 )

> It can't handle free speech. (See also: recent laws compelling pronouns.)

Lie. C-16 does not criminalize using something other than someone's preferred pronoun. It might just recognize it as part of a pattern indicating you're a prejudiced asshole behaving in a discriminatory manner towards someone, though.

> It can't handle anti-government sentiment (see also: trucker protest in Ottawa.)

Another lie. The 'trucker protest' in Ottawa was a bunch of barely-functional malcontents with outside funding who

Re: (Score:1)

by Anonymous Coward

Trudeau will be joining Kamala looking for a job sooner rather than later.

Re: (Score:2)

by MightyMartian ( 840721 )

Thanks for proving the poster's point.

Re:The Canadian Government is Lost. (Score:4, Interesting)

by Baron_Yam ( 643147 )

As I said, you're too stupid to accept the truth. And probably feeling your oats because your 'brothers' in the US just won big.

It doesn't matter, you're still losing, it's just going to take a bit longer for you to figure out that everything you're doing is just making things worse while the people you worship as heroes make out like bandits off your backs. Or maybe you'll never figure it out and keep blaming 'the left' for the rest of your life.

Re: (Score:2)

by PPH ( 736903 )

Someone might catch Justin Trudeau wearing blackface.

Here's the money shot. (Score:3)

by lsllll ( 830002 )

> Well in five years, in 10 years, that teenager will be a young adult, will be engaged in different activities around the world

Imagine China knowing pretty much everything there is to know about via use of AI because of stuff you did when you were a teenager. Yeah, [1]PRISM [wikipedia.org] allows the U.S. to do the same thing, but we're hoping they're only doing it for "national security".

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM

If security matters... (Score:4, Insightful)

by couchslug ( 175151 )

Ban foreign investment in residential property.

Re: (Score:2)

by Fly Swatter ( 30498 )

Just ban corporate investment. If you aren't directly renting (apartments), leasing (landlords), or mortgaging (banks, etc.) a property to someone your corporation should not be allowed to own residential property.

I guess what I am saying is corporate home-buying companies and flippers should be illegal - residential should be for homeowners only, not some corporate equity exploit driving up prices.

No shit. The West needs to tighten up. (Score:1)

by Eunomion ( 8640039 )

This is ridiculous, and especially if the free world is going to batten down for something like this Trump-ass Coup 2 in DC, gotta keep these totalitarian countries out of our shit.

Re: (Score:2)

by Powercntrl ( 458442 )

It will be interesting to see if Trump remembers that he flip-flopped on TikTok. The ban had bipartisan support, so I'll bet undoing the ban will be a campaign promise that is quietly forgotten.

The issue is persuasion not data (Score:2)

by schwit1 ( 797399 )

The data issue is a side show.

[1]https://www.forbes.com/sites/e... [forbes.com]

These sources reveal that in addition to letting the algorithm decide what goes viral, staff at TikTok and ByteDance also secretly hand-pick specific videos and supercharge their distribution, using a practice known internally as “heating.”

They can similarly minimize the reach of certain topics.

This was done to rile up college kids against Israel's self defense operations in Gaza. We saw the protests

[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilybaker-white/2023/01/20/tiktoks-secret-heating-button-can-make-anyone-go-viral/

Re: (Score:2)

by Miles_O'Toole ( 5152533 )

I think their outrage had a lot more to do with the fact that the far right Israeli government is slaughtering women and children in Gaza. I'm sure they manage to kill a terrorist or two every now and then, but mostly the Israelis are just murdering civilians.

Re: (Score:2)

by Baron_Yam ( 643147 )

Not that it makes leveling entire neighborhoods right, but imagine how the average Israeli feels about having terrorists moving freely about on the other side of a border constantly launching rockets at them.

At some point, they're going to hit back if they have the capability to do so, and they absolutely do. There's no winning scenario. Gaza and the West Bank exist because Israel bowed to world pressure after the events of '67 in a world climate that was probably less accepting of conquering land in the

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by ArchieBunker ( 132337 )

> This was done to rile up college kids against Israel's self defense operations in Gaza. We saw the protests

Let's dig a bit deeper into this. Is Tiktok itself promoting anti Israel videos, or a third party? What is to be gained from eroding support for Israel?

This is one of the rare occasions where each side is equally shitty. I want Hamas to stop doing terrorist shit and at the same time I want Israel to stay on their side of the fence and stop blowing up brown people. The small government fiscal conservatives sure do clam up when Israel is mentioned. We sent Israel $17.9 BILLION in the last year alone. [1]https:// [apnews.com]

[1] https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-us-military-spending-8e6e5033f7a1334bf6e35f86e7040e14

Re: (Score:2)

by angel'o'sphere ( 80593 )

Viral is by likes.

How should the company make something intentionally viral.

And what would be the purpose?

It is only work for them, with no gain.

They serve videos to consumers/users.

Does not damn matter cost wise what video they stream.

And does not damn matter income wise what video they stream.

A new koan:
If you have some ice cream, I will give it to you.
If you have no ice cream, I will take it away from you.
It is an ice cream koan.