The Hyperloop Lives On As a 1/12th Scale Model In Switzerland (theverge.com)
(Tuesday November 05, 2024 @10:30PM (BeauHD)
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- News link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/24/11/05/2217233/the-hyperloop-lives-on-as-a-112th-scale-model-in-switzerland
- Source link: https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/5/24288954/hyperloop-swisspod-test-worlds-longest-scale-model
Last December, Hyperloop One, the futuristic transportation company pursuing Elon Musk's dream of tube-based, airplane-speed travel, announced [1]its shutdown . However, the concept itself has found a new lease on life in a scaled-down version overseas. According to The Verge's Andrew J. Hawkins, "The hyperloop, in fact, lives on -- [2]as a 1/12th scale model in Switzerland ." From the report:
> Sure, this isn't exactly the full realization of Musk's 2013 white paper, in which he theorized that aerodynamic aluminum capsules filled with passengers or cargo could be propelled through a nearly airless tube at speeds of up to 760mph. These tubes, either raised on pylons or sunk beneath the earth, could be built either within or between cities. Musk called it a "fifth mode of transportation" and argued it could help change the way we live, work, trade, and travel. The idea is being put to the test in Lausanne, Switzerland, where a 120-meter circular test track is being operated by a team that includes the Federal Institute of Technology Lausanne (EPFL), the School of Business and Engineering Vaud (HEIG-VD), and Swisspod Technologies. This week, the group announced that it had conducted "the longest" hyperloop test of its kind: traveling 11.8 km (7.3 miles) at a speed of 40.7km/h (25.3mph).
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> The circular test track has a circumference of 125.6 meters (412 feet) and a diameter of 40 centimeters (15.7 inches). It sounds modest, but the group claims that in a full-scale system, their test "directly translates" to a journey of 141.6 km (88 miles), which is about the distance between Geneva and Bern, or San Francisco to Sacramento, and speeds of up to 488.2 km/h (303.4mph). The project is called LIMITLESS, which stands for Linear Induction Motor Drive for Traction and Levitation in Sustainable Hyperloop Systems. During the test, the team "monitored the performance of vital subsystems," including propulsion, communication infrastructure, power electronics, and thermal management. They assessed "energy consumption, thrust variations, [linear induction motor] response, and control during acceleration, cruising, coasting, and braking scenarios."
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> Of course, a 1/12th-scale circular test track is hardly a sign that the hyperloop is alive and well. Most of the startups and companies pursuing a full-scale hyperloop have shut down, victims of financial mismanagement, as well as infrastructure and regulatory hurdles. Critics said that while the hyperloop may be technically feasible, it still only amounts to vaporware. It's been called a "utopian vision" that would be financially impossible to achieve. But the Swiss team is undeterred, promising to conduct a battery of future tests to further validate the system. Swisspod CEO Denis Tudor said the group plans to test its first freight product soon, and is currently building a larger test track in the US. "This is a key step toward making hyperloop for passengers a reality and changing how we connect, work, and live," he said.
[1] https://slashdot.org/story/23/12/21/1924206/hyperloop-one-to-shut-down
[2] https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/5/24288954/hyperloop-swisspod-test-worlds-longest-scale-model
> Sure, this isn't exactly the full realization of Musk's 2013 white paper, in which he theorized that aerodynamic aluminum capsules filled with passengers or cargo could be propelled through a nearly airless tube at speeds of up to 760mph. These tubes, either raised on pylons or sunk beneath the earth, could be built either within or between cities. Musk called it a "fifth mode of transportation" and argued it could help change the way we live, work, trade, and travel. The idea is being put to the test in Lausanne, Switzerland, where a 120-meter circular test track is being operated by a team that includes the Federal Institute of Technology Lausanne (EPFL), the School of Business and Engineering Vaud (HEIG-VD), and Swisspod Technologies. This week, the group announced that it had conducted "the longest" hyperloop test of its kind: traveling 11.8 km (7.3 miles) at a speed of 40.7km/h (25.3mph).
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> The circular test track has a circumference of 125.6 meters (412 feet) and a diameter of 40 centimeters (15.7 inches). It sounds modest, but the group claims that in a full-scale system, their test "directly translates" to a journey of 141.6 km (88 miles), which is about the distance between Geneva and Bern, or San Francisco to Sacramento, and speeds of up to 488.2 km/h (303.4mph). The project is called LIMITLESS, which stands for Linear Induction Motor Drive for Traction and Levitation in Sustainable Hyperloop Systems. During the test, the team "monitored the performance of vital subsystems," including propulsion, communication infrastructure, power electronics, and thermal management. They assessed "energy consumption, thrust variations, [linear induction motor] response, and control during acceleration, cruising, coasting, and braking scenarios."
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> Of course, a 1/12th-scale circular test track is hardly a sign that the hyperloop is alive and well. Most of the startups and companies pursuing a full-scale hyperloop have shut down, victims of financial mismanagement, as well as infrastructure and regulatory hurdles. Critics said that while the hyperloop may be technically feasible, it still only amounts to vaporware. It's been called a "utopian vision" that would be financially impossible to achieve. But the Swiss team is undeterred, promising to conduct a battery of future tests to further validate the system. Swisspod CEO Denis Tudor said the group plans to test its first freight product soon, and is currently building a larger test track in the US. "This is a key step toward making hyperloop for passengers a reality and changing how we connect, work, and live," he said.
[1] https://slashdot.org/story/23/12/21/1924206/hyperloop-one-to-shut-down
[2] https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/5/24288954/hyperloop-swisspod-test-worlds-longest-scale-model
Not for me, thanks (Score:2)
by jenningsthecat ( 1525947 )
I might, maybe, possibly be persuaded to accept the risk of sudden decompression as a condition of space flight. I certainly wouldn't risk it as a condition of what is essentially a train ride.
Re: (Score:2)
by Ksevio ( 865461 )
Ok, but what if were a really expensive train ride with low capacity?
It's only a model... (Score:4, Funny)
by nsuccorso ( 41169 )
On second thought, let's not build a Hyperloop. It is a silly thing.
never going to work (Score:2)
by firewrought ( 36952 )
Vacuum trains were conceived by Robert Goddard in 1904 (and foreseen by others ahead of them), but the idea had never been made to work. Maintaining vacuum is hard and putting people inside is extremely dangerous.
Does the model include all the cars (Score:3)
that were the real reason the hyperloop existed in the first place?
I mean seriously folks, it was a public transit system being proposed by a guy with a majority stake in a car company. It didn't take Woodward & Bernstien to figure out something wasn't right.
Re: (Score:2)
He actually wants fewer cars on the road, as evidenced by his pivot of Tesla toward being a robotaxi company. If more people car-shared robotaxis, number of cars on road would decline.
Also, hyperloops are primarily envisioned to replace (and eliminate emissions of) short-haul and medium haul aviation, and medium haul freight trucking, not cars.
Re: (Score:2)
He doesn't want either more or fewer cars on the road, he's a guy with a ton of (other people's) money to throw around and will throw it at anything cool-sounding that catches his fancy. When there's adults around to pull his hands away from the wheel before he drives into the ditch, they sometimes work out. When not... well, Twitter, Cybertruck, Hyperloop, the list goes on.
Re: (Score:2)
We've seen from more ride-share companies that it doesn't really cut down on cars on the road, usually the opposite. People take the taxis instead of public transit if it's convenient/affordable enough. The vehicles aren't always going to have a passenger, it just doesn't work out that conveniently so they have to go somewhere between trips and have to travel to pick up people so it ends up more vehicles on the road
Dude robotaxis means more cars on the road (Score:2)
Nobody car shares a taxi with anyone but their immediate family. That's not how taxis work.
And his robotaxis are just pump and dump anyway. He doesn't have the technology. He tried to cut quarters leaving out the lidar and wasted a huge amount of time on tech that was never going to work and now he's 10 years behind everybody else. So he does dog and pony shows to keep his stock price up. It didn't even work the last time he did it