Climate Scientists Respond To Attacks on Objectivity (theguardian.com)
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- News link: https://science.slashdot.org/story/24/10/25/1754241/climate-scientists-respond-to-attacks-on-objectivity
- Source link: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/oct/25/we-have-emotions-too-climate-scientists-respond-to-attacks-on-objectivity
> The researchers said these feelings should not be suppressed in an attempt to reach supposed objectivity. Seeing climate experts' fears and opinions about the climate crisis as irrelevant suggests science is separate from society and ultimately weakens it, they said.
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> The researchers said they had been subject to ridicule by some scientists after taking part in a large Guardian [2]survey of experts in May, during which they and many others expressed their feelings of extreme fear about future temperature rises and the world's failure to take sufficient action. They said they had been told they were not qualified to take part in this broad discussion of the climate crisis, were spreading doom and were not impartial.
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> However, the researchers said that embracing their emotions was necessary to do good science and was a spur to working towards better ways of tackling the climate crisis and the rapidly increasing damage being done to the world. They also said that those dismissing their fears as doom-laden and alarmist were speaking frequently from a position of privilege in western countries, with little direct experience of the effects of the climate crisis.
[1] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/oct/25/we-have-emotions-too-climate-scientists-respond-to-attacks-on-objectivity
[2] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2024/may/08/hopeless-and-broken-why-the-worlds-top-climate-scientists-are-in-despair
All the time (Score:5, Interesting)
Climate scientists gat attacked all the time, of course. It's getting depressingly routine.
For those who don't like getting news from The Guardian , the article they talk about is at Nature 's site : [1]https://www.nature.com/article... [nature.com]
[1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-024-02139-3.epdf
Just like weathermen (Score:1, Informative)
It's no surprise climate "scientists" are mocked, because their predictions keep deviating substantially from real world results.
The same thing happens to weathermen, which makes sense because if you think about it these climate guys are just weathermen on a longer timeframe, only they pretend like they are way more accurate than weathermen with zero track record to prove it.
At least local weather predictions have improved over the years, if the climate guys were not fixated on agendas other than finding fa
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And this is supposed to be an intelligent argument?
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As if Russian Fraud ShitTrollKendall had said anything worth responding to? Everything he said was a falsehood.
I can relate to at least one of their complaints. (Score:2)
> They said they had been told they were not qualified to take part in this broad discussion of the climate crisis, were spreading doom and were not impartial.
In previous discussions on SD, when I've argued that scientists making any claims need to have their data open to the public so that I, as an individual, can look at the data and draw my own conclusion, I've been pointedly told a few times that they have no obligation to do that because I just am not smart enough to analyze the data and would cherry-pick it to argue against their findings.
Well, (almost) nobody likes Cassandra (Score:2, Troll)
Does not make her any less right about what is to come though. But most people are deep into denial as a coping strategy. For individual problems that can work, as many things fix themselves on small-scale. But species-scale? That is basically a proof of extreme incompetency and usually leads to extinction. As we are not there yet and species survival is still a real possibility, let's mess things up some more!
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Being very emotional and biased about something doesn't make you wrong. It just means that if you're presented with information that contradicts what you believe you're likely to give it less weight and shuff it off compared to data that supports what you believe.
That's a human behavior we can reliably see happen. People like that sometimes can be proven they are wrong and they just say, 'Well I could have been right' and still really don't accept the issues with their view.
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Being emotional about real problems makes you _dumb_. And while you can still be right by accident, it is not something anybody sane will ever rely on.
Well, "dumb" is the usual modus of most people. The human race is approaching a decision point at this time and it does not look like it will come out successful.
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Thank you for showing us what a Klan Addled Inbred White-Supremacist Dumbshit looks like. Kamala has actual plans. Treason Fuck Trump... is busy ranting about how he will deploy the military against US citizens and "terminate the constitution."
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You know, your constant broken record has reached the point of ridiculousness.
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You know, I don't care what you sisterfucking Cross Burners have to say. Go kill yourself you disgusting subhuman Klan Sack of Shit.
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Counterpoint: When you're a fireman trying to put out a house on fire, and a bunch of Klan Addled Inbred Dumbfucks run into the scene screaming that the house isn't actually on fire, the APPROPRIATE thing to do is kick those fucking inbred dumbasses in the nuts and then go back to PUTTING OUT THE FIRE.