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Disney and Apple Are Splitting Over App Store Fees (msn.com)

(Wednesday October 23, 2024 @05:22PM (msmash) from the tough-luck dept.)


If you want to sign up for a subscription to Hulu or Disney+, don't bother taking out your iPhone. Disney is now telling would-be customers to [1]pay for subscriptions on Disney's own site , instead of on Apple's App Store -- though people who've already started paying for either service via Apple can keep doing that. From a report:

> The two companies are still working together on some projects. But the App Store split does represent a rift between two longtime partners, so it's definitely worth noting.

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> Disney's rationale is clear here: When customers sign up for Disney subscription services via Apple, Apple takes up to 15% of the monthly fees those services generate. And Disney CEO Bob Iger has made it clear that he doesn't want to pay that anymore. "We have to look at the way we're distributing," Iger said at an investor conference in May. "Unlike Netflix, we distribute largely through third-party app stores. There's obviously an advantage to that to some extent, but there's a cost to that, too. And we're looking at that."



[1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/disney-and-apple-are-breaking-up-over-app-store-fees/ar-AA1sJlmU



Surprised it took so long (Score:2)

by Smonster ( 2884001 )

I don’t know why any company with an advertising budge would allow subscriptions through Apple. And I say that as an Apple shareholder.

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by Ed Tice ( 3732157 )

The reason people like to sign up for subscriptions via Apple is that it's trivial to cancel an App Store subscription. I won't even accept a free trial of an application that doesn't take payment via the Apple App Store. And that would be true if the application was Windows or Linux only. That's okay. Just have a placeholder iOS application that one can use to pay via Apple. I'm astonished that anybody would sign up for a subscription any other way. I'll buy things through Steam. But if it's somethin

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by FictionPimp ( 712802 )

1 click cancel.

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by Njovich ( 553857 )

They get off on being financially submissive to Apple

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by saloomy ( 2817221 )

Trust me when I tell you, being bent over by Apple is NOTHING like being bent over by just about anyone else. Cancellation is one thing, but every, and I mean EVERY time I have had a dispute or issue with a payment for an apple payment, Apple have refunded me or taken measures to satisfy me in some way. I have reached out to apple, and told them I cancelled a trial, and deleted the app, forgot to cancel the subscription under subscriptions in my iCloud settings, and they refunded me as I was asking. On anot

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by The-Ixian ( 168184 )

I think that, until recently, part of Apple's license agreement was that you couldn't even mention external payment systems in your app. Basically, you couldn't let your own customers know that you could pay elsewhere.

That was the one concession that Epic got out of their law suit against Apple for the AppStore practices.

and disney takes like 99% of the gate at the movie (Score:2)

by Joe_Dragon ( 2206452 )

and disney takes like 99% of the gate at the movies!

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by dysmal ( 3361085 )

> and disney takes like 99% of the gate at the movies!

Exactly! It's OK when Disney fleeces someone else but when someone cuts into The Mouse's cheese? Nope!

Never mind that Disney has been churning out over priced mediocre sequels while trying to bleed all creativity from their franchises. Never mind that Apple has more money than Scrooge McDuck. Never mind that both charge obscene amounts of money while not sharing the proceeds with their day-to-day workers.

bit confusing (Score:3)

by timeOday ( 582209 )

I think the rules in play are the outcome of Epic's [1]billion-dollar war [gamefile.news] over alternate stores and outside payment on iOS.

Although the outcome here is confusing. I guess competitors can't make their own app stores for iPhone, but can point people to other payment methods to avoid the apple tax.

> The justices also turned away Epic's appeal of the lower court's ruling that Apple's App Store policies limiting how software is distributed and paid for do not violate federal antitrust laws. The justices gave no reasons for their decision to deny the appeals.

> In a series of posts on X, Epic CEO Tim Sweeney wrote: The Supreme Court denied both sides' appeals of the Epic v. Apple antitrust case. The court battle to open iOS to competing stores and payments is lost in the United States. A sad outcome for all developers. Now the District Court's injunction against Apple's anti-steering rule is in effect, and developers can include in their apps "buttons, external links, or other calls to action that direct customers to purchasing mechanisms, in addition to IAP."

> As of today, developers can begin exercising their court-established right to tell US customers about better prices on the web. These awful Apple-mandated confusion screens are over and done forever. The fight goes on. Regulators are taking action and policymakers around the world are passing new laws to end Apple's illegal and anticompetitive app store practices. The European Union's Digital Markets Act goes into effect March 7.

[2]https://apple.slashdot.org/sto... [slashdot.org]

[1] https://www.gamefile.news/p/epic-apple-google-fortnite-eu-tim-sweeney

[2] https://apple.slashdot.org/story/24/01/16/1548200/supreme-court-rejects-apple-epic-games-legal-battle

Can they both lose? (Score:2)

by Gleenie ( 412916 )

If there's a way they can *both* lose out of this, I hope we can find it.

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