Roblox Accused of Lying To Investors About User Numbers (theverge.com)
- Reference: 0175215783
- News link: https://games.slashdot.org/story/24/10/08/2024254/roblox-accused-of-lying-to-investors-about-user-numbers
- Source link: https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/8/24265145/roblox-hindenburg-reseach-dau-child-safety-short-seller-report
> Roblox, which went public [2]in 2021 , reported having 79.5 million daily active users in its most recent earnings report. However, Hindenburg claims Roblox "intentionally conflates" actual people with daily users, as that number could also include alt accounts and bots. The research alleges that Roblox can separate alt accounts from single users, even though the company's disclosure says daily active users "are not a measure of unique individuals accessing Roblox."
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> Hindenburg is [3]an activist short-selling firm that infamously publishes research when it says it's identified something shady about a business, allowing it to make a profit as its share value declines. One example is from 2020, when Hindenburg accused the EV startup Nikola of fraud. Subsequently, an investigation by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) resulted in a four-year prison sentence for its founder, Trevor Milton. [...] The firm also claims Roblox isn't doing enough to protect children on the platform, alleging its "in-game research revealed an X-rated pedophile hellscape, exposing children to grooming, pornography, violent content and extremely abusive speech." Roblox [4]shares dipped following the release of the report.
Desiree Fish, Roblox's chief communications officer, said in a statement: "We totally reject the claims made in the report. The financial claims made by Hindenburg Research are simply misleading. The authors are, admittedly short sellers and have an agenda irrespective of the substance of Roblox's business model and results. Over the past four quarters our bookings, the amount of cash receipts, have grown over 22% from $780.7 million in Q2 2023 to $955.2 million in Q2 2024. Over the same time, cash provided by operating activities have totaled $646.3 million, free cash flow was $440.3 million, and we have guided to even higher numbers for fiscal 2024. An examination of our GAAP balance sheet and our GAAP cash flow statement makes that clear. The focus on cash bookings and cash flow are themes that we have focused on consistently with investors dating back to our days as a private company. The author made no attempt to highlight any of that because the positive facts simply don't support their agenda."
[1] https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/8/24265145/roblox-hindenburg-reseach-dau-child-safety-short-seller-report
[2] https://games.slashdot.org/story/21/03/11/2113200/robloxs-45-billion-ipo-values-user-created-game-platform-higher-than-ea
[3] https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/19/hindenburg-research-is-making-a-name-for-itself-by-taking-on-carl-ichan-gautam-adani-and-others.html
[4] https://www.wsj.com/tech/short-seller-hindenburg-says-roblox-inflates-user-metrics-compromises-child-safety-92c77b5e
happened before many times (Score:5, Interesting)
Reminds me of what a company called Computer Associates did in the late 90s. Back in 1998, their share price was dropping because they weren't showing revenue growth, the execs either convinced themselves it was temporary or wanted an immediate boost. So they had idea to report 3.1 months of revenue as being 3 months of revenue (hoping to "fix" it next quarter) .. of course next quarter they didn't have enough revenue to cover that and were also afraid of looking bad to their investors so they made that quarter be 3.2 months, and so on.. and they kept getting greedier and greedier until one day a couple of years later they reported revenue over 50% beyond what made any sense and finally attracted the SEC's attention. Reference: [1]https://knowledge.wharton.upen... [upenn.edu]
[1] https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/how-serious-was-the-fraud-at-computer-associates/
Re: (Score:1)
Oh man CA was pure scum from the beginning. It's good to remind folks to curse their name forever. I hope you never had to implement CA Unicenter or CA-7 Automation. This was an exercise in pure pain.
Why should they lie (Score:2)
> the company's disclosure says daily active users "are not a measure of unique individuals accessing Roblox."
They state what the number means correctly. Maybe they can separate individuals and "users", but as long as they do not even claim that the number counts individuals, they are not lying.
Family Size. (Score:2)
My kids somehow have enough roblox accounts to supply a small village. I'm not sure what the point is, but it certainly seems roblox might have much lower standards as far as what is required to make an account.
Good (Score:2, Informative)
Get trashed ya child labor exploiting scum.