Dell Mandates Five-Day Office Presence For Global Sales Team
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- News link: https://slashdot.org/story/24/09/27/1318203/dell-mandates-five-day-office-presence-for-global-sales-team
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[1] https://www.reuters.com/technology/dell-asks-global-sales-team-work-five-days-week-office-memo-says-2024-09-26/
Three Days Notice? (Score:2)
This is just the "fake-because" version of layoffs.
Get people to quit instead of issuing pink-slips.
Some State Labor Relations Boards love to sink their teeth into this stuff.
Dell probably calculates that the fines are cheaper.
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> This is just the "fake-because" version of layoffs.
> Get people to quit instead of issuing pink-slips.
> Some State Labor Relations Boards love to sink their teeth into this stuff.
> Dell probably calculates that the fines are cheaper.
Sure, maybe. According to the Slashdot mob, the elite will leave for jobs that require no presence, the dregs will come to the office, and Dell will be out of business, because they only have incompetents working.
I'm pretty certain that sales employees don't fit the introvert developer stereotype. I'm also pretty certain that sales often requires meeting with clients, another thing that might be anathema to the slashdot mob. Indeed, it would be interesting to see the productivity differences between the
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Some State Labor Relations Boards love to sink their teeth into this stuff.
I assure you, here in Texas, they don't. And Dell used to "own" a lot of the legal firms in Austin surrounding burbs to discourage any of them from wanting to litigate, making it hard to find a lawyer who could take you on as a client.
This is actually one of the best reasons never to RTO: you can live in places your employer doesn't have a strong financial stake in.
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> Dell probably calculates that the fines are cheaper.
And they're probably right.
Don't be so fucking cheap (Score:2)
Just do a proper layoff with severance, you can afford it. If Dell is too cheap for it they can just lay people off without severance. Bullying people out of the workplace is pathetic bullshit.
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Exactly. The sentence "Remote workers unable to access Dell offices will continue working from home." is a clue that RTO isn't actually deemed necessary by Dell for this group.
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I do wish they'd stabilize things. We're on our fourth account rep this month as of yesterday.
Seems like a shortsighted policy (Score:2)
From what I have experienced with global sales teams in other companies, these employees have odd hours because they have to connect with their coworkers and customers in different time zones. For example, meeting with someone in Europe before 8am and after 5pm their time? Not going to happen. So the meeting has to be early morning. While customers in Asia might be more flexible to meeting outside their 8am-5pm hours, they do not work 24/7 either. Forcing employees to come into work just for meetings when t
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Sales were never expected to be in the office period. Sales people have to work with customers as a priority to actually sell stuff. No clue why Dell is doing this.
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> No clue why Dell is doing this.
I doubt they know, either.
Sales people not like other employees (Score:5, Insightful)
They come, they go, they hop from company to company, they produce and hit goals or get fired.
The can-do aggressive go-go-go kill-kill-kill types won't care about this because they'll be out with customers or potential customers or doing something else to bring in money every day. The ones who aren't energetic would eventually be fired anyway for missing targets.
If your sales people are in the office 5 days a week you need new sales people.
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And an entirely correct post gets modded down instantaneously.
I'm sure it's just more stealth layoffs (Score:2)
They've got some people hitting goals but just barely and they want to cycle them out w/o paying unemployment.
One of the most ****ed up things we do is make unemployment an "insurance" instead of paying it out of the general budget.
That incentivizes companies to come up with ways to fire us for cause so their premiums don't go up.
We're not supposed to think about that. We're supposed to be distracted by DEI or Drag Queens or SJW or violent video games or Satanic Panic or Dungeons & Dragons o