X Circumvents Court-Ordered Block In Brazil (theguardian.com)
- Reference: 0175041267
- News link: https://yro.slashdot.org/story/24/09/19/013219/x-circumvents-court-ordered-block-in-brazil
- Source link: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/sep/18/elon-musks-x-brazil-block
> The number of Brazilians accessing X is unknown, according to [Abrint, the Brazilian Association of Internet and Telecommunications Providers]. "I believe the change was probably intentional. Why would X use a third-party service that ends up being slower than its own?" said Basilio Perez, a board member at Abrint.
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> Any revised order from Brazil's national telecommunications agency Anatel, which is responsible for implementing the court ruling, will need to be more specific, because blocking cloud access is complex and may jeopardize government agencies and financial services providers, Perez said.
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> Anatel has identified the problem and is working to first notify content delivery network providers, followed by telecom companies to block access again to X in Brazil, according to a person familiar with the situation. The same person said it is not clear how long it will take for the providers to comply with the order.
[1] https://tech.slashdot.org/story/24/08/30/2219245/brazil-blocks-x
[2] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/sep/18/elon-musks-x-brazil-block
Maybe (Score:1)
Twitter doesnâ(TM)t really offer much value these days might as well just shut it down globally.
Re: (Score:3)
> growing user base and healthy engagement metrics of X
[Citation needed]
And, just by the by, before you get started, people who have been demonstrated to lie through their teeth time and time again are [1]not [elonmusk.today] considered to be reliable sources.
[1] https://elonmusk.today/
Misleading framing (Score:3, Insightful)
Musk refused to take down accounts of elected officials based on opposite party's demands for censorship. Disinformation and far-right is framing of one party that won elections against another party that lost elections. However, because there are some parallels between Brazil and US/Trump, media coverage is very friendly to blatant free speech violations.
Re: Misleading framing (Score:2)
It's notable the way these countries operate: They demand local representatives for one reason and one reason only: Somebody whose neck is close enough to wring, or head close enough to remove, even if it's one of their own citizens, so they have a way to enforce censorship "or the little bunny gets it". China, Russia, and France have made similar demands.
I haven't dug into it (Score:1)
But I haven't heard that either. What I have generally heard is that Brazil is upset that Elon is refusing to take down actual misinformation like anti-vaccine misinformation or the kind of stuff that inflames riots.
I know that both Facebook and Twitter have been involved in multiple genocides and tons of race riots outside of America. There are several countries that are in much worse shape than we are in terms of race relations. Add to that the Russians going around causing trouble anywhere they can a
Disinformation or information De Mora didn't like? (Score:3)
This is about censoring political opponents.
[1]https://www.wsj.com/world/amer... [wsj.com]
[1] https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/brazilians-take-to-streets-to-protest-ban-on-elon-musks-x-d4742723
Good luck, have fun (Score:3)
> "X Circumvents Court-Ordered Block In Brazil"
An order to which Twitter has absolutely no obligation to follow. If Brazil wants to censor itself, it has that right. But companies and organizations outside Brazil's control don't have to play along.
> "The conflict centered on Musk's refusal to appoint a legal representative in the country and his refusal to take down disinformation and far-right accounts"
Correction, the conflict is centered on what certain politicians in Brazil want to label as misinformation and what certain politicians in Brazil believe are "far-right" accounts that they want silenced. They want themselves to be the arbiter of the platform and control what is censored. Twitter doesn't agree and pulled operations out. Apparently, many Brazilian citizens also don't agree. And if there is any democracy left there, you might find your citizens ousting your whole lot from power.
So good luck, Brazilian government, with trying to control the rest of the world to fit your views and your attempts to "protect" your citizens from things you want to censor. You will have to be content focusing control over your OWN citizens, companies, organizations, and infrastructure. Please consult with China (and now increasingly Russia) if you are interested in trying to shut out all information you don't like.
That's funny Elon was all in on censorship (Score:2)
When Turkey asked him to do it, specifically when a brutal dictator asked him to do it he explicitly came out and said that he would comply with the censorship requirements of the local government in order to stay.
What Brazil's was asking him to do was control blatant misinformation like anti-vax bullshit or stuff that the Russians were pushing to destabilize the country and trigger of race riots and stuff like that.
If all Brazil wanted was to censor political opponents we already learned that Elon
For everybody saying this is about censorship (Score:2)
Go look up Elon musk's response when Turkey asked him to censor political opponents of the Turkish regime. Elmo is happy to censor for dictators all day long and if that's all Brazil wanted he blissfully comply.
The only possible conclusion is this is about actual misinformation, as in stuff like anti-vax bullshit that gets people killed and stuff like the Russian bullshit that gets posted by their botnets like what we found out about with Tim Pool. In less less stable countries and countries with roughe
and it's still better than Wayland! (Score:2)
oh wait...
A recipe for teaching network censorship. (Score:2)
By confronting them that way, you'll only teach them the witchcraft of network traffic mgmt to censor more of everything...