Intel Plans To Turn Foundry Business Into Subsidiary, Allow For Outside Funding (cnbc.com)
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- News link: https://slashdot.org/story/24/09/16/2214216/intel-plans-to-turn-foundry-business-into-subsidiary-allow-for-outside-funding
- Source link: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/16/intel-turns-foundry-business-into-subsidiary-weighs-outside-funding.html
> As part of CEO Pat Gelsinger's effort to turn around the struggling chipmaker, Intel said in a memo to employees that it will also sell off part of its stake in Altera. Gelsinger said the restructuring would allow the foundry business to "evaluate independent sources of funding,รข and comes days after Intel's board met to assess the direction and future of the company. The foundry business, which Intel plans to use to manufacture chips for other customers, has been a big drag on its bottom line, with the company spending roughly $25 billion on it in each of the last two years. Beyond just considering outside funding, Intel is weighing whether to spin off the foundry business, possibly into a separate publicly traded company, according to a person with knowledge of the matter who declined to be named in order to discuss confidential information. With a standalone "operating board" and a cleaner corporate structure, the mechanics of a separation become far easier than trying to turn a fully integrated unit into a separate company. [...] Intel will also pause its fabrication efforts in Poland and Germany "by approximately two years based on anticipated market demand," Gelsinger said, and pull back on its plans for its Malaysian factory. U.S. manufacturing projects will remain unaffected, the company said.
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> In addition to the foundry announcement, Intel said it entered into a deal with Amazon Web Services to produce custom chips for AI, extending a long-running partnership between the two companies. Amazon is a big customer of Intel chips to power its AWS servers, and will buy a custom Xeon processor from Intel as well, Intel said. The move will potentially give Intel a new foothold in the growing industry for AI server chips. While Intel has several products that can be used for AI, including Gaudi 3, Nvidia has largely taken control of the market. Amazon has been developing its own AI chips, including one called Trainium, for over five years. Microsoft and Google have also invested heavily in custom chips to run AI, aiming to offer less expensive processors than Nvidia's general-purpose graphics processing units. Intel said that it would carry out its most advanced manufacturing, including the AI chip for AWS, at its plant in Ohio that's currently under construction. "All eyes will remain on us," Gelsinger said. "We need to fight for every inch and execute better than ever before. Because that's the only way to quiet our critics and deliver the results we know we're capable of achieving."
[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/16/intel-turns-foundry-business-into-subsidiary-weighs-outside-funding.html
[2] https://slashdot.org/story/24/08/02/1927237/intel-stock-drops-toward-50-year-low-amid-mass-layoffs
Hence Intel is dead (Score:2)
All Intel ever had was a superior foundry. They never did good CPU design (there is a reason it is that AMD64 architecture, and check how late they were to integrate the memory controller into the CPU), and they will not start now. Hence if they give up any chance of recovering that manufacturing advantage, they are dead or relegated to irrelevancy.
Good. They have done enough damage.
Sounds like Boeing and its fuselage factory (Score:2)
In 2025, Boeing thought it would be a good idea to spin off its fuselage factory, forming Spirit AeroSystems. [1]https://www.reuters.com/market... [reuters.com] That didn't turn out so well!
Intel is already struggling. If they spin off one of their core competencies, it's hard to imagine that turning out well.
[1] https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/boeing-buy-spirit-aero-47-bln-deal-after-months-talks-2024-07-01/
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2025? That's a typo, right?
Who fails harder? (Score:2)
Nobody can tell if Intel's design teams or fabs are the more dysfunctional. We're about to find out though!
Things are bullish again! (Score:2)
I'm glad I was buying stock up when the same people told us Intel was all but bankrupt 2weeks ago. Lol
Intel fabless? (Score:2)
Intel is going fabless? The government gave them blank checks to keep chip production in the US and they flushed that money down the toilet (though somehow the executives were seen partying in brand new yachts).
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Well technically that money could still be money well spent if the fab business that is spun off survives and thrives. If instead the fab business is cut out of Intel like a metastatic cancer and then dies a slow (or rapid) death then yes, it would be money flushed down the toilet. But maybe, just maybe, the spun-off business will have some EUV breakthroughs and catch up to our friends in Taiwan? Maybe a new management structure and fresh thinking is just what they need?
Anyway it's too early to call but a
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> You'd never want to put all your eggs in the Taiwan basket, only in 12 months for China to steamroll that whole country and then cut you out.
[1]TSMC says they have yields up in AZ [tomshardware.com], so things are looking up here for the fabless.
[1] https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/tsmc-arizona-achieves-production-yields-similar-to-those-at-its-fabs-in-taiwan-says-report
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Letting the top-teir of US fabs die isn't going to happen, no matter what Intel does. Uncle Sam won't allow it, and currently Intel is pretty damn in hoc to the government.
But, if they play it smart, they've still got quite a few years before they're forced to act. Possibly a decade or more. They've got about 30 billion in cash, and this shows their profits:
[1]https://www.statista.com/stati... [statista.com]
Their stock is getting hammered because they're not currently Nvidia-level hot, but nvidia stock is on an i
[1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/263565/intels-net-income-since-2004/
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They're not spinning off the foundry business, they're just turning it into a subsidiary. Also, even if they did spin it off that wouldn't represent a loss of that investment provided that the investment was all spent on the fabs. Those can't be moved and as long as they're still in operation then that's a win for the US government.