China Raises Retirement Age For First Time Since 1950s (bbc.com)
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- News link: https://slashdot.org/story/24/09/16/147243/china-raises-retirement-age-for-first-time-since-1950s
- Source link: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62421le4j6o
> The top legislative body on Friday approved proposals to raise the statutory retirement age from 50 to 55 for women in blue-collar jobs, and from 55 to 58 for females in white-collar jobs. Men will see an increase from 60 to 63. China's current retirement ages are among the lowest in the world.
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> According to the plan passed on Friday, the change will set in from 1 January 2025, with the respective retirement ages raised every few months over the next 15 years, said Chinese state media. Retiring before the statutory age will not be allowed, state news agency Xinhua reported, although people can extend their retirement by no more than three years. Starting 2030, employees will also have to make more contributions to the social security system in order to receive pensions. By 2039, they would have to clock 20 years of contributions to access their pensions.
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Why the difference between the sexes ? (Score:3)
Why do women retire at a younger age than men, especially when they are likely to live longer than men ?
I suppose that men tend to marry women who are younger than them, so this means that they are more likely to retire at the same time. But is it fair ?
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> Why do women retire at a younger age than men, especially when they are likely to live longer than men ?
it's an old policy because women tend to work twice as hard as men, since they have to run family and house too. that's expected to change, though.
> But is it fair ?
society in general is still very unfair to women everywhere in the world, this is a drop in the ocean.
Re: Why the difference between the sexes ? (Score:3)
You do not create a path towards equality and fairness by taking unfair, unequal actions and giving advantages to a group and then somehow pseudo-balancing it against the rest of the world.
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We are talking about China. So they are not going to have the same values as us "westerners". Honestly, I'm a little surprised China even has a defined retirement age
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If you go back to around the time of the Cultural Revolution and the period right before that, lots of women finished school after 8th grade and started working, often in dangerous factories. And then they got married and raised families while working. By the time they are 50 they are actually pretty worn out and not capable of doing more.
Bro.. its communism (Score:1)
You are retired at birth
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Yep, that is why there is no threat from China in any manufacturing area at all! Nobody works there!
In other news, some people are too stupid to see the blatantly obvious.
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The term "communism" has been butchered and then re-butchered, losing most of its meaning.
And (Score:2)
What if the finish line gets pulled even further ahead before many people can reach it? :-/
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- We still have social security last time I checked.
- We have SSI or SSDI for people who are disabled
- We have temporary welfare for people who lose their jobs
The only thing the US fucks up on is we don't have free housing cabins for the homeless. Our homeless shelter system is horrible. We need to have designated homeless cabin villages about 20 miles of every city periphery. (Far away enough that you'd still be motivated to keep trying to get a job, near enough that the bus can take you into the city cent
Re: Better deal than the US (Score:4, Insightful)
> We need to have designated homeless cabin villages
Some homeless don't want them. They just keep moving back to their favorite patch of sidewalk.
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Yeah make that illegal. And after repeated violation, fuck it, subject to cold water spray.
Re: Better deal than the US (Score:4, Insightful)
I can't imagine why anyone would be suspicious of a purpose built ghetto they were forced to move to.
To fix homelessness, you need to address the causes of it. Health issues, lack of affordable housing, poverty in general. It's cheaper and better for everyone to do that.
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Substance abuse is mostly the issue. It gets conflated with mental illness, but both are present in most on the streets. If you have an actual solution i'm all ears. Closing down the mental institutions mostly just put people on the streets, a lot of whom (but not all) ended up in jail.
And please don't say "harm reduction". Might as well distribute lethal injections at that point, it's the same net effect. Consequences change people, making it easy to remain an addict consigns them to a slow (or fast) d
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> Substance abuse is mostly the issue. It gets conflated with mental illness, but both are present in most on the streets. If you have an actual solution i'm all ears. Closing down the mental institutions mostly just put people on the streets, a lot of whom (but not all) ended up in jail.
Very true, but what people really don't like to acknowledge is that some of the people who end up on the streets and abusing alcohol or drugs didn't have to end up that way. They were effectively guided in that direction
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There are aspects of poverty that cannot be addressed in modern society without directly giving people stuff. If a person is unable to get work or unwilling no matter how bad his standard of living becomes or unable to perform profitable work or works but spends every penny on drugs the options are to feed and house her or let her be homeless. "have her provide for herself" isn't an option. A lot of people prefer to believe that it's actually possible for literally anyone to feed and house himself. What we
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> Some homeless don't want them. They just keep moving back to their favorite patch of sidewalk.
Yeah - a lot of them basically are of the mindset that if they're homeless they're at least going to be homeless near a nice beach or something.
And the reality is that 80-90% of homeless people are either struggling with substance abuse or have psychological problems. For the others homelessness tends to be a temporary situation that you can work out of eventually (or they never end up there as most well adjusted people have some number of friends or family that will let them stay with them to keep them of
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Which of course should beg the question, what was so bad about those "cabin villages" that the sidewalk was preferable to them?
Note, that was a rhetorical question. I don't want to hear your answer to it. Nor any other USian's chosen quip.
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Now do healthcare.
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> Our homeless shelter system is horrible.
There are shrinking towns in the rust-belt. Why can't we locate more there instead of stuff everybody into the coasts? That's not logical, humans!
China would allocate smarter.