Haiku (Originally 'OpenBeOS') Releases Long Awaited R1/Beta5 (haiku-os.org)
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- News link: https://news.slashdot.org/story/24/09/14/158240/haiku-originally-openbeos-releases-long-awaited-r1beta5
- Source link: https://www.haiku-os.org/news/2024-09-13_haiku_r1_beta5/
> [1]Haiku (the MIT-licensed operating system, inspired by BeOS) has [2]released its fifth beta for Haiku R1 .
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> Some new features include improved UI color management, improved dark mode coloring, Tracker improvements, TUN/TAP support for VPN connections, TCP throughput improvements, performance optimizations, UFS2 (BSD's filesystem) read-only support, new FAT filesystem driver, improved hardware support, improved POSIX compliance, improved performance, and more.
Slashdot has been covering the [3]fate of the BeOS [4]since [5]2000 (as well as the [6]short-lived [7]derivative project [8]ZETA — and [9]Haiku ).
And now "With a history of over two decades and previously known as OpenBeOS, today's Haiku is pushing forward..." [10]writes the site NotebookCheck :
> [11]Haiku is a spiritual successor to [12]BeOS , with a focus on a clean and user-friendly design paired with low system requirements. The minimum system requirements are still an Intel Pentium II/AMD Athlon CPU or better, at least 384 MB RAM, an 800x600 screen, and at least 3GB storage. It works on both 32-bit and 64-bit x86 PCs, and the 32-bit version can run many unmodified BeOS applications. It might be the best desktop open-source operating system not based on Linux or Unix... It works well in a virtual machine like [13]VirtualBox or [14]UTM .
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_(operating_system)
[2] https://www.haiku-os.org/news/2024-09-13_haiku_r1_beta5/
[3] https://slashdot.org/story/02/10/13/1411240/history-and-perspective-on-beos
[4] https://slashdot.org/story/00/02/06/2155205/beos-for-the-internet-beia
[5] https://slashdot.org/story/00/04/26/1028251/be-to-drop-beos-no
[6] https://slashdot.org/story/05/09/17/2235221/beos-lives-on-in-the-form-of-zeta
[7] https://slashdot.org/story/05/04/03/0433256/beos-ready-for-a-comeback-as-zeta-os
[8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZETA_(operating_system)
[9] https://developers.slashdot.org/story/12/08/07/1315234/how-haiku-is-building-a-better-beos
[10] https://www.notebookcheck.net/BeOS-inspired-Haiku-gets-one-step-closer-to-the-first-stable-release-with-version-R1-Beta-5.888646.0.html
[11] https://www.haiku-os.org/
[12] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeOS
[13] https://www.howtogeek.com/virtualbox-7-1-release/
[14] https://www.howtogeek.com/easily-run-linux-virtual-machines-for-free-on-your-mac-with-utm/
Long awaited (Score:3)
Users are giddy with excitement. All 10 of them.
I remember a friend of a friend having a BeOS box. (Score:2)
Like well over 20 years ago. I don't think I've seen or heard of it since.
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I traded an Amiga 3000 for a 66MHz BeBox. The motherboard was a Motorola PPC development board, but the case was really very high quality (like Sun or SGI level stuff, with great plastics and nice heavy steel) and the OS was legitimately impressive. I also ran BeOS on x86, where it was still impressive even on a single CPU. I fixed some bug preventing compilation and kicked out a release of GNU "file" for it once, I forget the details and ISTR someone told me how to do it at the time, or maybe I googled the
Damning with faint praise... (Score:2)
> It might be the best desktop open-source operating system not based on Linux or Unix...
That sure knocks most of the competition off the field before making a comparison, and piles a "might be" on to rub salt into the wound.
Target hardware? (Score:2)
I don't understand the rationale behind the target application. They list computers/laptops where they system works [1]https://hardware.besly.de/inde... [besly.de]
It seems to me a very narrow set of people is going to install that on a real laptop. They would have a point if they'd try to adapt it to small systems, such as feature phones; but their requirements (384 MB RAM, 800x600 graphics) is too much for current feature phones (e.g. the HMD 110 announced yesterday, supports 4G/LTE, and uses the classical Nokia platfor
[1] https://hardware.besly.de/index.php?systeme=list
Re: Target hardware? (Score:1)
The point is, that Linux is a PIG compared to a real lightweight OS like this. Windows is piggier. OS X was less pig, but now it's as pig as all the other pigs.
BeOS was designed from the outset to be a screamer, and it was, at 33MHz and 512k is screamed. Haiku? I have no idea.
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I agree with the resolution requirement, 800x600 is a real tragedy; while that's easily achievable with a desktop whatever, it's real difficult (and expensive!) to find a 3.0-4.0" IPS display for smaller computers in that resolution; 640x480 is still relatively cheap.
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> linux distros are inconsistent,
The funny part about that is you can have a pretty consistent Linux environment, as long as you ignore all the projects not within your chosen subset of the ecosystem. If you do that, you'd still be closer to a complete experience compared to Haiku.
That purity of vision that more popular operating systems fail to achieve precisely because they are so popular and receive so much work that it's infeasible to maintain purity of vision across so much effort over so much time. Haiku may be 'pure', but there's n
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For me it's nostalgia. I can probably still dig up some older hardware and expect it to work. Apple was actually looking to buy Be, but in the end went with NeXT. What I'd always liked about BeOS was how light it was. It booted in seconds. The filesystem was unmatched in speed. Searches were nearly instantaneous and I'm anything has matched it. The filesystem was an actual database. I ran it for a few years at work. Because nearly everything I needed was terminal-based, and what I didn't need was available
How's the I/O? (Score:3)
Back in the PPC days they had amazing I/O demos; playing videos while doing massive copies, typing in a word processor, all smoothly.
Linux GUI freezes up just copying a file to NFS or USB.
If they've maintained this on x86 there may be some cross-learning that can happen.
It doesn't matter if it's niche if it's useful. Congrats to these guys.
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Back in the day they did bring that to their x86 BeOS. It was an amazing experience, that should have gone further in a world where their competition would have been MacOS, which didn't even have pre-emptive multitasking, and Windows 9x. They had an impressive scheduler performance even on single cpus and all the trappings of a modern filesystem and kernel.
However, at this point the world has pretty much caught up. I presume when you accuse 'the GUI' of freezing up, there must be some specific application
"Haiku Movies" (Score:3)
It looks like it's now time to update their website. If you go to [1]the Haiku Movies [haiku-os.org] section of their site, scroll to the bottom, and try to access any of the videos that seem to have been hosted on haiku-files.org, you'll be redirected to cheapesttitleloans.com. Maybe they were hacked?
[1] https://www.haiku-os.org/about/movies
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Link rot, perhaps?