Between being fucked or getting fucked?

shortly after they are released? I usually waited 8 days. Plenty of time to see if others report issues, and test before deployment. I remember denying quite a few updates in WSUS thanks to El Reg reporting issues.

Been able to do this for decades, simply by not using their products.

Why are you commenting here ?

Don't you have some Linux feed to contribute to ?

Or are you just masturbating to your pseudo superiority ?

For decades now, Microsoft's marketing strategy has leaned heavily on making people think they don't have other options while elevating fears of the unknown held by potential switchers.

Classic example of manufactured consensus. Certain situations are Windows-only. Most aren't. The number of Windows-only things is falling with each passing year.

We switched out a lot of our backend to make BYOD a thing. It results in higher user satisfaction, and with the Macs, many fewer tickets. BYOD fans are usually pretty serious about their choice, and a lot of that comes down to Windows suckage. The main driving factor was a productivity gap: a device (usually a laptop) which someone only wants to touch for work is frequently left behind. Commissioned employees do better with devices they have readily available for when opportunity knocks. When the Microsoft device sucks so bad that a lot of people don't want to touch it unless they have to, that becomes a problem for management.

One could list 100 examples of toxic Windows behavior which can only be fixed by switching (or occasionally, hacking your system at great time expense for no guarantee the fix holds).

Yeah thanks, buddy boy...

I run Linux at home, but I'm paid to put up with Windows at work.

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. If Windows scrags itself, I still get paid while someone else sorts it. If they want more productivity, they can give me a real OS.

Ahh! The "Windows Update Experience".

End of the work day, time to head home. Shut down the PC...what's this? "Don't turn off your PC, Windows is updating"

F*ck. Hope they hurry or I'll miss my train.

Yeah, not one of their brightest moments. So glad I'm retired.

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I get a little red dot in the status panel, telling me I have an update available...which I can examine before installing. Unless it updates the kernel, no restart is required, and even if one is, I have a choice of when to do it. How hard is this, Microsoft? If a bunch of scraggly hackers, led by a penguin, can manage to build a decent OS, why can't you?

[1]Windows Update Blocker

[1] https://www.sordum.org/9470/windows-update-blocker-v1-8/

The last point is good: https://www.makeuseof.com/best-windows-registry-tricks-worth-trying/

Stop automatic Windows updates

Update on your terms, not Microsoft’s

I don't mind mucking about in the registry.

It's unfortunate that this has to exist like so many of the other Windows hacks, from going without a Microsoft account to stamping out advertising and telemetry.

Windows is loaded down with so many antifeatures that it creates a real time burden for people who think their device belongs to them and should work how they want.

But it's not just the time burden. It's also the feeling of needing to be on constant patrol to make sure no antifeatures slip past when the user is doing something better than having to police their own system. And then there's no guarantee something won't slip past and only make itself known once the problem has started (or the data has already been exfiltrated).

Admittedly not from a great place, but I know people who will just keep punting it down the road... and then one day get bitten hard

This, the frequency isn't the problem...the clunky stone age mechanism that exhausts your CPU that makes your machine unusable is.

Wait, is this really new? I thought you could already stop them indefinitely or for a period of time...

Not indefinitely but in Windows 10 you could pause them for a while - 35 days sounds familiar to me. This sounds just the same. I hope noone at Microsoft spent much time on this "enhancement".

Actually yeah, you're right, it's up to 35 days, there is no indefinite option. But setting active hours is a thing. And I am on win 11, without this latest update.

> Not indefinitely but in Windows 10 you could pause them for a while

My laptop came with Win11 and it has always allowed to pause updates for a while (didn't check for how long, since I don't use it (Win11 that is, not the laptop...)).

That been said, what would had been really convenient, would be to be able to give it a weekday (like "Saturday") and a time (like 3 o'clock in the morning) to do its updates...

I have a vague recollection that old Windowses did indeed work like that. Oh well, everything was better back then...

… by removing windows.

It’s been a year since my last windows install was removed from my dual boot linux gaming rig and 14 years since it was my primary OS.

Luckily at my workplace I’ve been using macOS since 2013.

This I’ve found to be the most effective way to update windows for me personally, I’m sure others have similar successes at updating windows…

" O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! "

Windows victims may now choose the day of the week or indeed of the month on which Microslop is invited to bugger their devices.

That this facility has been made available suggests a line has been crossed and something has snapped within the slop factory. The loss of skills and failure of slopatronics to replace those skills probably means situation is now irretrievable.

So basically they are giving the users the choice BACK of picking if and when to update like in Windows 7? That's good now how a about a turn off button for Copilot?

So, said improvements are not the result of your efforts to improve the quality of your output ?

Yeah, didn't think so either.

No no no no...they have totally misunderstood the problem.

The problem updates happening at weird times, the problem is the update mechanism is crap. Updates shouldn't interrupt you whether they're running or not. They should be transparent, they shouldn't bring your system to it's knees and they shouldn't be all up in your face like a crack infused Jack Russell. They should be quick, out of your way, but still happening.

I think Microsoft execs need to take some of their money and go to a fine dining restaurant and observe how the waiters operate. That's how a good update mechnism should work. Always present, always attentive, never interrupting your dinner, always out of your way. Seamless.

Instead they seem to have taken the Swiss Tony approach to updates.

Windows Updates are like making love with a beautiful woman, first you surprise her when she steps out of the shower, throw her over the bed, give her 30 minutes to an hour of intense activity, occasionally slapping her round the face whilst calling her a bitch.