DeepSeek or DeepFake? Our vultures circle China's hottest AI
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What began as a Chinese hedge-fund venture has [1]blown away nearly a trillion dollars in stock market value from Nvidia, Microsoft, and Meta. But are DeepSeek's freely available V3 and just-released R1 LLMs all they are cracked up to be? We have our doubts, as we discussed below for this week's episode.
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Joining us is Tim Prickett-Morgan of The Next Platform , Tobias Mann and Iain Thomson of The Register , and editor-in-chief Chris Williams.
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Tim dived into the backend tech at DeepSeek [5]here , and Tobias described how to run the DeepSeek R1 locally [6]over here . Our 20-minute catch-up may contain technical assessments and derisory sarcasm.
[7]DeepSeek means companies need to consider AI investment more carefully
[8]DeepSeek stirs intrigue and doubt across the tech world
[9]DeepSeek's not the only Chinese LLM maker OpenAI and pals have to worry about. Right, Alibaba?
[10]Guess who left a database wide open, exposing chat logs, API keys, and more? Yup, DeepSeek
The [11]Kettle is also available audio-only via [12]RSS and MP3 , [13]Apple , [14]Amazon , and [15]Spotify . ®
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[1] https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/27/tech_stocks_tank_as_us/
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbPSVjhmtGU
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[5] https://www.nextplatform.com/2025/01/27/how-did-deepseek-train-its-ai-model-on-a-lot-less-and-crippled-hardware/
[6] https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/26/deepseek_r1_ai_cot/
[7] https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/31/deepseek_implications/
[8] https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/30/deepseek_reaction/
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/30/alibaba_qwen_ai/
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/30/deepseek_database_left_open/
[11] https://www.theregister.com/Tag/Kettle
[12] https://feeds.simplecast.com/Vnvf8Fkd
[13] https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-register-kettle/id1713589041
[14] https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fe62a659-3451-496b-b064-f30744c2ad65/the-register-kettle
[15] https://open.spotify.com/show/3SkH00VOX02KYNaAbYzajj
[16] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
This. I'm reading El Reg because I either can't (no headphones) or don't want to listen to audio. If posting this as a text story then it needs to be summarised in text to avoid wasting our time. Otherwise just put it on a Youtube or similar channel, or at the very least away from the written stories in a completely separate part of the site.
I'm fully behind this slightly grumpy request for a transcript. Often you can get the transcript text directly from YouTube but not in this case.
[1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbPSVjhmtGU
I tried three free online transcription services and all three did a decent job of creating a transcript.
1. This one I preferred because there were no timestamps, just the text and no requirement to login to the website. It also created the transcript very quickly.
[2]https://youtubetotranscript.com/transcript?v=pbPSVjhmtGU¤t_language_code=en
2. With this one you can read it on the website, inside an accordion control with timestamps. Not that great. You have to login to download the text but you can then download it without timestamps. Fortunately [3]bugmenot.com has a working account for this website, so you can download the transcript without giving up too much privacy:
[4]https://notegpt.io/youtube-transcript-generator?id=6f941d2f
3. This one is the worst to read, for me, as the timestamps are in the way. It does allow you to click sections of text in the transcript to jump to that time in the video, which I can see would be a useful feature for some people, or some videos.
[5]https://tactiq.io/tools/run/youtube_transcript?yt=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DpbPSVjhmtGU
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbPSVjhmtGU
[2] https://youtubetotranscript.com/transcript?v=pbPSVjhmtGU¤t_language_code=en
[3] https://bugmenot.com/view/notegpt.io
[4] https://notegpt.io/youtube-transcript-generator?id=6f941d2f
[5] https://tactiq.io/tools/run/youtube_transcript?yt=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DpbPSVjhmtGU
Transcript please. I really can't be bothered with podcasts etc.