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Astronomers red-faced after mistaking Musk's Tesla Roadster for asteroid

(2025/01/27)


Scientists mistook Elon Musk's Tesla roadster for an asteroid in a debacle that highlights the problem of tracking near-Earth objects.

Discovery of the suspected asteroid was announced in the [1]Minor Planet Electronic Circular on January 2 . However, the entry was swiftly deleted when space boffins realized it was actually the Tesla roadster launched on SpaceX's first Falcon Heavy mission.

Less than a day after the announcement, an [2]editorial notice was published notifying readers of the whoopsie: "The designation 2018 CN41, announced in MPEC 2025-A38 on Jan 2, 2025 UT, is being deleted. The object was reported throught [sic] the identifications pipeline as a 3-nighter linkage found in the isolated tracklet file and more tracklets were linked in the ITF, leading to a small object on a heliocentric NEO orbit.

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"The next day it was pointed out the orbit matches an artificial object 2018-017A, Falcon Heavy Upper stage with the Tesla roadster. The designation 2018 CN41 is being deleted and will be listed as omitted."

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The mistake was swiftly spotted and resolved, which is how this sort of thing is supposed to work, yet it points to a wider issue.

The Minor Planet Center (MPC), which made the error, is no ragtag band of amateurs. Funded by NASA's Near-Earth Object Observation program, the MPC [6]describes itself as "the single worldwide location for receipt and distribution of positional measurements of minor planets, comets, and outer irregular natural satellites of the major planets. The MPC is responsible for the identification, designation, and orbit computation for all of these objects."

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It operates from the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory at Harvard, under the auspices of the International Astronomical Union (IAU).

This isn't the first such [8]incident of this nature. The European Space Agency's Rosetta spacecraft has also been misidentified as an asteroid in the past, as has NASA's Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP).

The problem arises from the lack of a single, dependable source cataloging the position of every artificial object. The MPC described the mistake as "deplorable," warning that it will worsen as more missions are launched into deep space.

[9]Earth's new mini-moon swings by, then ghosts us by late November

[10]Sorry, Elon, your Tesla roadster won't orbit for billions of years

[11]What did we say about Tesla's self-driving tech? SpaceX Roadster skips Mars, steers to asteroids

[12]MY GOD, IT'S FULL OF CARS: SpaceX parks a Tesla in orbit (just don't mention the barge)

In an email to [13]Astronomy , MPC director Matthew Payne said a central repository of data has yet to materialize, meaning scientists have to collate when they can from disparate sources.

The position of Musk's roadster can be found in a NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) catalog. There is also a [14]website loaded with facts and figures regarding the whereabouts of the car at the center of the billionaire's publicity stunt.

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However, while the identification and subsequent correction are amusing, it underscores the growing challenges of monitoring artificial objects orbiting our planet. The US Space Force and several private companies keep an eye on near-Earth space – tracking trajectories to avoid collisions that would make the region less usable.

Without a central resource of artificial object trajectories, cases of mistaken identities will inevitably rise, leading to wasted efforts in observing these objects and straining already limited resources of the scientific community.

As Astronomy observed: "It is a problem that is set to worsen as more nations and companies venture to the Moon and beyond." ®

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[1] https://minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K25/K25A38.html

[2] https://minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K25/K25A49.html

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[8] https://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K07/K07V70.html

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/01/earth_minimoon_2024/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2018/02/15/orbital_calculations_for_elon_musks_tesla_roadster/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2018/02/07/spacex_telsa_roadster_asteroids/

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2018/02/06/spacex_falcon_heavy_launch/

[13] https://www.astronomy.com/science/astronomers-just-deleted-an-asteroid-because-it-turned-out-to-be-elon-musks-tesla-roadster/

[14] https://www.whereisroadster.com/

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[16] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



a problem that is set to worsen as more nations and companies venture to the Moon and beyond

Anonymous Coward

Iron Sky

Re: a problem that is set to worsen as more nations and companies venture to the Moon and beyond

Jedit

As someone put it to me - possibly here, in which case due credit to the OP and apologies for forgetting who they are - Werner von Braun must be happy wherever he is because now when someone says "that Nazi rocket guy" they won't be thinking of him.

Re: a problem that is set to worsen as more nations and companies venture to the Moon and beyond

Irongut

Nah Mush is just the wannabe Nazi rocket guy.

Von Braun was the real Nazi rocket guy who used contentration camp victims as workers and didn't care what the chemicals they were working with did to them. Nor did he care about firing his rockets at my father. Such a lovely guy that built NASA for the Yanks.

Re: a problem that is set to worsen as more nations and companies venture to the Moon and beyond

Neil Barnes

I Aim At the Stars (but sometimes I hit London)...

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053440/

Re: a problem that is set to worsen as more nations and companies venture to the Moon and beyond

Lord Elpuss

D'ya think?

Re: a problem that is set to worsen as more nations and companies venture to the Moon and beyond

FrogsAndChips

ObTomLehrer: ""Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down? That's not my department', says Wernher Von Braun"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJ9HrZq7Ro

Re: a problem that is set to worsen as more nations and companies venture to the Moon and beyond

Anonymous Coward

Your Dad must have been one hard bastard for them to specifically target missiles at him.

Re: wannabe / real Nazi guy

Flocke Kroes

Musk has not had the opportunities von Braun had. Perhaps you are speaking to soon. I am sure the current US administration will work hard on how they treat immigrants. Musk may get the opportunity to catch up.

Re: a problem that is set to worsen as more nations and companies venture to the Moon and beyond

Anonymous Coward

>Von Braun was the real Nazi rocket guy who used contentration camp victims as workers

Hey give him a chance, he only just moved the company to Texas. Building camps takes time

A nazi space weapon

Omnipresent

returning and smacking the population of earth sounds exactly like 2025.

With any luck it's run on his AI, and accidentally takes him out instead.

I think .....

KittenHuffer

..... that they probably identified it as a Tesla faster than a self-driving Tesla would have been able to!

Re: I think .....

Fruit and Nutcase

There are no emergency responder vehicles in space. So no danger of the Tesla Roadster running into the back of one

AI, anyone?

RegGuy1

Surely this is the sort of problem space AI would be good at?

Deadly litter

LenG

Forseen in Deadly Litter by James White (1964)

Tesla roadster launched on SpaceX's first Falcon Heavy mission.

rafff

Around here we have breakers' yards for unusable motor vehicles

Re: Tesla roadster launched on SpaceX's first Falcon Heavy mission.

Anonymous Coward

same here, and we have anti-littering laws too!

Re: Tesla roadster launched on SpaceX's first Falcon Heavy mission.

Paul Herber

We need twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was

Re: Tesla roadster launched on SpaceX's first Falcon Heavy mission.

hoola

What is really beyond comprehension is how he was permitted to send this piece of junk up in the first place given that the entire purpose was publicity.

It just added to the every growing collection of rubbish humans are dumping in space with no scientific or commercial gain.

Modest proposal

Tron

El Reg could crowd fund an origami Enterprise on a JAXA rocket that unfolds when deployed in space. Don't tell NASA. Everyone likes surprises.

Doctor Syntax

ISTR there was a site tracking a floating tool-bag.

Raoul Ohio

BFD.

their job is to track stuff in the solar system. whether a found object is primordial or an Elon Musk toy is a classification detail.

Well

Eclectic Man

It is surely better to have detected it and mislabeled it and then discovered their mistake than not to have found it at all?

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haven't even thought of yet.