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Tesla recalls 239,382 vehicles over rearview camera problems

(2025/01/13)


Days after the US's Office of Defects Investigation (ODI) began an investigation into the company's Actually Smart Summon technology, Tesla is is now recalling almost a quarter of a million vehicles over a separate issue – glitches with rearview cameras on some models.

239,382 Teslas are affected from the 2023 – 2024 Model 3 and S ranges and the 2023 – 2025 Model X and Y ranges. The problem is that a computer circuit board might short, resulting in the vehicle [1]losing access to the rearview camera image [PDF].

From November 21, 2024, Tesla noted an increase in car computer replacements due to a power shorting malfunction. It traced the problem to software releases prior to 2024.44.25.3 or 2024.45.25.6 which, when combined with certain hardware configurations and colder temperatures, could increase reverse current and short the power components.

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Thus, the view from the rear camera would cease to be displayed.

Tesla has already begun rolling out an Over The Air (OTA) update to fix the technical trouble and vehicles that have experienced the shorting condition prior to installing 2024.44.25.3, 2024.45.25.6, or a later software release will be able to get their car computer replaced free of charge.

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As of December 30, 2024, Tesla had identified 887 warranty claims and 68 field reports related to the condition. It said it is also not aware of any collisions, injuries, or fatalities related to the problem.

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Dan O'Dowd, Founder of The Dawn Project, said, "This is the [5]second time in just one week that NHTSA has taken action against Tesla over its faulty software, highlighting the myriad safety critical defects in Tesla systems.

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"If Tesla cannot be trusted to develop reliable software to ensure that its rear-view cameras do not fail to display an image, how can it be trusted to develop an entirely autonomous driving system which does not require supervision?"

For context, Tesla it is not the only car maker suffering from software-related rearview camera woes. 2025 also began with a [10]recall [PDF] of vehicles from UK manufacturer Aston Martin over the view from its reversing camera. However, in Aston Martin's case, only 1,452 vehicles were potentially affected by the problem, which entails a home screen menu that occasionally obscures the display of the reversing camera. An OTA update can apparently fix the problem on some of Aston Martin's light vehicles, but for certain models, a trip to the dealer for a USB software update is required. ®

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[1] https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2025/RCLRPT-25V002-6930.PDF

[2] https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/08/nhtsa_tesla_smart_summon/

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[5] https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/08/nhtsa_tesla_smart_summon/

[6] https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/09/musk_appeal_tesla_pay/

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/08/honda_upgrades_robot_brain_into/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/08/nhtsa_tesla_smart_summon/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/07/musk_political_adventures/

[10] https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2025/RCLRPT-25V001-4568.PDF

[11] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Lee D

The fact that they have a PCB that can short itself out because of software settings tells you that it's not been designed properly or safely at all.

If a fuse popped (or even better a resettable fuse), fair enough. But the board shouldn't SHORT OUT and cause circuit board damage.

This is the kind of thing that starts fires. But it's far more indicative of a complete lack of quality control AND engineering in the first place.

"Slap in a generic board and hope for the best, we can always patch the software later" is no basis for a vehicle design.

Headley_Grange

Downvoted for suggesting a fuse along with a valid bit of FMEA. I bet that's what the Tesla design reviews are like too.

Will Godfrey

I'd go further and say that neither the software nor the hardware had been designed properly... or maybe not designed at all, but just thrown together.

simonlb

But I thought Musk knows more about manufacturing than anyone else alive, so how could this happen? I'm shocked I tell you! Shocked!

will be able to get their car computer replaced free of charge

heyrick

I would bloody well hope so, given their software update caused the problem.

I world second the above post - why isn't there a fuse? Software settings leading to burning out hardware is terrible design.

I bet Tesla didn't

Andy Non

see this coming.

Re: I bet Tesla didn't

Wally Dug

Yeah, yeah, going back over old ground here. Can you not get a different view ?

nematoad

The older I get the more technophobic I become.

Has no-one heard of mirrors? Simple,cheap and easy to replace. They do the job and never short out.

It strikes me that this sort of thing is becoming another answer looking for a problem.

If you must have rear view cameras then for safety's sake fit mirrors as well.

You know redundant safety systems.

FrogsAndChips

I doubt you can sell a car without rear-view mirrors at all. Rearview cameras are a driving aid that more and more people rely on, but you can't depend on it.

GlenP

I doubt you can sell a car without rear-view mirrors at all

There are certainly some European motorhomes, and possibly commercial vehicles, with no actual mirrors, just rear view cameras and screens in the A-Pillars. The saving in fuel is significant!

FrogsAndChips

I stand corrected but I would never drive one, fuel savings or not.

Anonymous Coward

Honda's little EV from a couple of years back had cameras in place of the side mirrors.

I ain't Spartacus

Can I suggest a compromise? If you're unwilling to accept an electronic system - how about an arrangement of a rear turret and rear-gunner to replace both systems? Give them a powerful enough weapon and you'll have less need for mirrors, as they can reduce the flow of approaching traffic.

chivo243

I suggest twin 40cal machine guns...

FrogsAndChips

Isn't that a Cybertruck you're describing?

Chloe Cresswell

"possibly commercial vehicles" Mercedes-Benz Arocs

DrXym

The Polestar 4 has a rear view camera, not mirror. I think it is a reckless and insane design choice since a camera doesn't give 3d cues like a mirror would and also messes with distance and night time view. And it's not like a transit van or something where there is no way to see out the back and where a camera would be better than nothing - Polestar deliberately made it this way.

werdsmith

Mirrors mess with distance perception. USA even had a warning embossed on the glass of mirrors so they couldn't look at one without being told vehicles might be closer than you think.

heyrick

" Rearview cameras are a driving aid that more and more people rely on "

My dinky little toy car has a camera. I don't use it, I use the mirrors.

Why? Because the field of view is all wrong. It looks like I have l o a d s of space and the only thing saying otherwise is the proximity beeper having a nervous breakdown. So I trust what my eyeballs see, not what the camera sees.

It would also be nice if either it didn't have guide marks embedded into the picture, or the guide marks bore some sort of resemblance to the dimensions of the car.

In short, the camera shows me what is back there, so I don't run over a child cat. For just about anything else, it's kind of useless.

Mark #255

A while ago Audi would sell you an e-tron with cameras instead of wing mirrors, but I haven't seen them recently.

Many HGVs on the roads in the UK have tiny wing cameras instead of mirrors.

Having done several trips to the tip (sorry, Household Waste Recycling Centre) last week with the rear view through the car blocked by a huge bag of brambles etc, it was slightly surprising how much I missed being able to see behind me.

Marty McFly

Courtesy of a handy AI search... "In the United States, the National Highway Traffic Safety (NHTSA) mandated that all new vehicles under 10,000 pounds must be equipped with rearview cameras starting May 1, 2018."

I agree, an answer in search of a problem....which the government excels at creating. Note, not a "law" put in place by our elected officials. A "federal regulation" created by unelected bureaucrats.

Paul Crawford

A rear-view camera for parking assist is a great idea.

For safety situational awareness while driving it strikes me as too complex and fault prone.

chivo243

Yes, mirrors are great +1! until the little motor in them seizes or a gear breaks a tooth... my 13 year old vehicle has electric mirrors.

HAHAHA

Anonymous Coward

the buyers of musktwat shit deserve all they get for supporting a nazi bastard

I can't wait to hear what...

Anonymous Coward

his Muskiness has to say about this. After all, isn't he still CEO of Tesla.

Oh wait. He's running DOGE in DC now and trying to topple at least three European Governments including here in the UK.

That does not leave him time to even wipe his ass when he does No2's.

The next 4, 8 or 12 years with Drumpf in charge will not be pretty for most of the world.

Re: I can't wait to hear what...

heyrick

" his Muskiness has to say about this. "

Poop emoji perhaps? Or does he have to pretend to be a grown up when doing Tesla stuff?

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