Musk, still wet behind the ears, is about to discover this…

I wish that were true. Unfortunately, it appears that he can get away with saying whatever he wants (Pedo guy, UK 'civil war is inevitable', advertisers can 'go fsck themselves', etc.) and never seem to suffer the repercussions of what he has said.

Those in glass houses.

Who was photographed at a party with a convicted gang leader?

Ah whataboutism. The refuge of those in the wrong.

> Those in glass houses.

>

> Who was photographed at a party with a convicted gang leader?

You're accusing kittenhuffer? Or don't you understand what "glass houses" means?

KittenHuffer,

There's no law against saying civil war is inevitable. And surely it's better he be allowed to say it in public, so we can all see how little he knows - than to give him the false cachet of having his statement banned?

Also, he definitely suffered the consequences of saying advertisers can go fuck themselves. They fucked off and left Twitter instead.

The only consequence-free one is being allowed to get away with calling an innocent person pedo guy. At least there's an upside to that though. He's personally gone to court and paid lawyers to allow me to legally call Elon Musk Pedo Guy without consequences. What's sauce for the goose etc...

"He's personally gone to court and paid lawyers to allow me to legally call Elon Musk Pedo Guy without consequences"

It's amazing how many complaints I get from defenders of the Pedo Guy for calling the Pedo Guy a Pedo Guy. Apparently it's highly insulting and unfounded.

Fuckwits.

Does Musk even know that the Reform Party (prop. N. Farage) does not select its leader?

Probably one reason he likes it ...

Democracy? Voting is for losers!

And Trimp said many times that he needed them to vote for him just the once and that they'd never have to vote again.

That tells me that he will become 'dictator for life' on Jan21st. No more elections in the USA even for dog catcher.

Trump 2.0 will destroy the USA as we once knew it. THe plans to make the FBI HQ a museum is just the start. The Capital building will make a fine workhouse for the homeless.

>That tells me that he will become 'dictator for life' on Jan21st.

I wonder how long that will be, given the US-ian infatuation with the right to bear weapons that can be used to kill other US-ians.

The government have drones...

Let him destroy the USA, hopefully USA v2 will be an improvement when it rises from the ashes...

@Steve Davies 3

"And Trimp said many times that he needed them to vote for him just the once and that they'd never have to vote again."

And of course can you now provide what he actually said and the context?

"That tells me that he will become 'dictator for life' on Jan21st."

Sounds like you got suckered into the propaganda instead of what he said. Either you are a highly delusional sufferer of TDS or somehow missed what was said and the context.

"Trump 2.0 will destroy the USA as we once knew it"

Is this a continuation of the claims from 2016? He didnt destroy the US back then, instead he did so well Obama tried and still tries to take credit for it.

"THe plans to make the FBI HQ a museum is just the start"

Hopefully. Did you miss the events of around the last decade? The severe corruption within the FBI to willingly break the law and go after a presidential candidate on evidence they knew to be a lie! To protect the Bidens from the law! The raid for documents in that farce.

"The Capital building will make a fine workhouse for the homeless."

Remember the doors open from the inside.

Can you NOT use a search engine Mr Codejunky?

Surely you can put a search with terms like "trump you only have to vote once"

You will get dozens of links that will give you the context.

As for the so called raid on Mar-A-Lardon... They found Top Secret documents that if you had them, you would have been carted off to jail right then an there. It was legal in that a judge granted the warrant and was timed to take place when neither he nor Melania were there.

It sounds like you are a MAGA cult member with a made in china 'Red Hat'. You have gone with the 'Biden Crime Family' meme yet Jordan and Comer found nothing that could lead to an indictment. Now, Biden has immunity for anything her did while POTUS thanks to your Orange Jesus.

Trump said that he will become a dictator on day 1.

Search for "trump dictator on day 1"

That 1 day could easily turn into 4 years or longer. To me, the jury is out on that one.

Please carry on worshiping the ground that he walks on. The rest of us will watch him and the rest of his buddies mess up the USA (again).

Don't waste time feeding the troll

@AC

"Don't waste time feeding the troll"

Says coward

@Steve Davies 3

"Can you NOT use a search engine Mr Codejunky?"

I can and I assume you have the ability which is why I am surprised you could believe something so well debunked.

"Surely you can put a search with terms like "trump you only have to vote once""

Wow, I understand your difficulty. It is amazing the best you got for that was propaganda bull before fact checking (or ignoring it). Hell I even changed your search to "trump you only have to vote once fact check" and it took until page 3 to see a fact check!-

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/vote-four-years/

A source with the fact checking used to come up on page one (not necessarily snopes) so I am surprised. But anyway he was talking to Christians who dont tend to go out and vote. He told them to go out and vote, they only need to do it this once.

"As for the so called raid on Mar-A-Lardon... They found Top Secret documents that if you had them, you would have been carted off to jail right then an there. It was legal in that a judge granted the warrant and was timed to take place when neither he nor Melania were there."

And they were ordered to turn off the security cameras (thankfully didnt) and barred any legal presence for Trump. In the end they violated the terms of the warrant (searched beyond where they were permitted) for a made up national security reason and apparently they were declassified otherwise the case wouldnt have so easily dissolved. A case that fell apart when the role of the President was explained to the prosecution by the Supreme Court and Jack is running out of the door before Trump can kick him.

"It sounds like you are a MAGA cult member "

To someone with TDS I can believe that. Anyone not entirely anti-Trump and refusing to push the lies that have been debunked might seem like a cult supporter of Trump to you but thats a problem with you. I can criticise Trump on facts not fiction.

"You have gone with the 'Biden Crime Family' meme"

Eh? What meme? Hunter was criminal, Joe pardoned him for any crimes he committed or involved in way back since Joe was VP. Joe himself committing a worse documents crime than Trump yet wont be prosecuted because of his mental state. Which part did you miss?

"Now, Biden has immunity for anything her did while POTUS thanks to your Orange Jesus."

The Supreme Court explained what has always been the case, the President has immunity for official acts. It hasnt changed. The dems tried to redefine the executive office to 'get' Trump and failed.

"Trump said that he will become a dictator on day 1."

Again a very well debunked 'claim'. You learn to search for the facts. He said he wouldnt be a dictator, then jokingly said except on day one closing the border and drill. I am amazed by your search results for your search terms try- "trump dictator day one" and the top result (AP news) even explains it. But again you are repeating debunked claims which is probably why you believe such a daft idea.

"Please carry on worshiping the ground that he walks on."

Again I dont, yet by not bowing to lies apparently that makes me a Trump cultist. Attack him on something real. Go after his protectionist policies for example. Just dont bother with the made up stuff.

"The rest of us will watch him and the rest of his buddies mess up the USA (again)."

So bad that Obama still tries to claim credit for Trumps success and Biden forgot he had a covid jab thanks to Trump. If only Biden could have failed and brought such success.

I'm just waiting for a highly suspicious fire in Congress that can be blamed on a political opponent, a near senile-president voting some young, foreign-born upstart executive power and then I've pretty much filled my early 1930s bingo card.

Britain should ban X & all Teslas sales going forward. For National Security. After all, every Tesla is a spy machine. At the very least, Britain should do what China did and ban Tesla's from military bases and other sensitive properties.

..... or, anybody with any sense will just stop using and/or buying them.

Teslas were revolutionary once. They are pretty crap compared to many other premium electric models now. And I think Twitter is in end of life care.

It's almost as if he wishes non-US governments to take regulation of social media and big tech in general more seriously.

Whilst ignorance of anything remotely associated with the real world doesn't seem to be a problem for some UK politicians, the whiff of scandal risks anyone seen as a leader being hounded out of office. Across the Pond, scandal seems to be worn as a badge of honour - and propels one into office.

Absolutely, Musk teamed with Trump's MAGA cult. Trump (the adjudicated rapist and felon) previously endorsed Roy Moore, a man who was a little too fond of teenage girls. Former congressman Matt Gaetz, who was suspect of having sex with a minor and using drugs. Not to mention all the racist and neo-nazis who flock to it. It's a party full of the worst kind of people who use wealth and power to avoid consequences and their idiotic followers praise them for it and helped them.

Has anyone else been considering referring to him as "Schoolie" Gaetz?

And why he isn't talking to the cops might not be entirely unrelated that "Daddy" Gaetz, as his father is known (and not just to Schoolie), is a big wheel in Florida state politics.

Got to wonder how far the apple has fallen from the tree?

Heaven forbid someone uses drugs!! Oh the horror!

And the girl had a fake ID.

At least he wasn't sleeping with his teacher or late brother's wife or an affair with the nanny.

You might like to check Florida's age-of-consent law, Mr AC.

The "She looked older" defence is explicitly disallowed.

And given that it appears to have been a private party I strongly doubt anyone was checking ID, least of all Schoolie's pimp pal and current convict.

In case you haven't quite twigged why people are disgusted by him it's not the drugs, or the hookers, or the underage hookers.

It's the hypocrisy that this guy trashed McCarthy as Speaker (who wouldn't quash the investigation) and then resigned to avoid it becoming public, and then Moses Mike wades in to CYA because the Orange Jesus told him to. Not to mention he was the only Congressman to vote against an interstate trafficking bill.

Under normal circs this would only be an issue for his wife. But this PoS wanted to be Attorney General

He bought and did illegal drugs while he was a member of congress.

Fake ID doesn't matter, it's still statutory rape.

He was also accused of having sex with his press secretary, Joel Valdez by three separate people

Nope, he was just buying prostitutes and being investigated for sex trafficking along with his buddy Joel Greenberg.

Meanwhile in Italy ...

Giorgia Meloni is in a musk love-in

getting a Starlink centre in Lombardy

" .. in Lombardy"

She's only doing so to become more poplar.

Is she branching out?

Seems Musk has a serious case of rich mans sickness, and believes that firing off his thoughts is a cure.

Musk is a modern day Henry Ford. Ford used his influence to peddle crackpot opinions and hate speech. Musk does the same. The medium has changed, the message has not.

Musk is a modern day Henry Ford

The man who said "any colo(u)r so long as it's black" supporting a right-wing party feels somewhat ironic

He was happy with black cars, it was black people he didn't like, which is presumably why he was [1]so fond of the KKK . He was also a [2]notorious anti-semite .

On the other hand Henry Ford started a car company, unlike Musk.

(who bought an existing company, and forced the founders to sign an NDA banning them from mentioning that they were the real founders)

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/1999/08/28/opinion/IHT-1924ford-backs-klan-in-our-pages100-75-and-50-years-ago.html

[2] https://www.history.com/news/henry-ford-antisemitism-worker-treatment

Henry Ford and Adolf Hitler were admirers of each other:

"When you think of Ford, you think of baseball and apple pie," said Miriam Kleinman, a researcher with the Washington law firm of Cohen, Millstein and Hausfeld, who spent weeks examining records at the National Archives in an attempt to build a slave labor case against the Dearborn-based company. "You don't think of Hitler having a portrait of Henry Ford on his office wall in Munich."

From https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/nov98/nazicars30.htm

See also

https://www.thehistoryreader.com/historical-figures/hitlers-american-friends-henry-ford-and-nazism/

What's endlessly frustrating is we've seen how this song ends but we're dropping more coins in the jukebox to hear it again. I don't get it. Maybe I was too invested in the whig view of history.

Perhaps he's planning a Musklandia somewhere in Europe.

>Perhaps he's planning a Musklandia somewhere in Europe.

Or Mars.

He can have that.

As soon as possible, I might add.

Let him spew his ignorant, hyperbolic and infantile opinions and show himself up as the unpleasant egotist he really is.

Mind you, it was hilarious watching Farage suck up to him so abjectly, only to be thrown under the bus later the same day for daring to voice disagreement with one of the drug addled fool's holy pronouncements. Would love to have been able to see the look on Farage's face though as he realised his much hoped for $100 million donation was now fluttering away into the distance, never to return.

Perhaps our media need to learn not to feed the trolls?

I know the media has always basically been based on being somewhat troll-like. The old, "if it bleeds it leads" cliche exists for a reason. But maybe not always breathlessly reacting to professional trolls like Trump and Musk would keep everything a bit calmer.

Saw a headline on the Beeb a few days ago about how their journo predicted that Musk would be an important force in UK politics this year. Why? He's of very little relevance to UK politics so far - apart from making a lot of noise.

If he really did donate £100m to Reform that would be an illegal donation - he's not a UK citizen. Although I guess he could set up a UK company to donate for him - I don't know if there's a law to stop that? Or do it via Tesla UK (if there is one) so long as the other shareholders don't mind.

He's of very little relevance to UK politics so far - apart from making a lot of noise.

But that noise is influencing those who agree with what he says, who also think insurrection and overthrow of democracy is over due. Many who lean to the right want that.

If we aren't told what shit he's spouting, what agitation he is involved in, we may wake up one morning surprised to find we are living under a fascist dictatorship.

" I guess he could set up a UK company to donate for him"

He already has one and was going to donate through it.

I do not know whether he is a troll or just an idiot. He (along with a few other Americans) seems to genuinely believe that Tommy Robinson is a "political prisoner" - it appears he has been claiming he was imprisoned for talking about the grooming gangs and people believed him. it takes about three minutes to find out the truth, but why bother?

When you see what Americans (not just Elon and people who share his politics, but quite a few others including the other side) often believe about the UK you can see how easy it is to be mislead about what is happening in other countries. One person got angry (and unfriended me) because I objected to her posting stuff from the jewish division of the EDL (they have separate Jewish and gay divisions because of the obvious issues you get if they mix with fascists) on FB - she is British but had been living abroad and was out of touch. A few friends abroad have done similar things too (although most people understand when you explain).

I have seen the same with British media coverage of Sri Lanka (which I know well) often complete and utter nonsense. The media are rubbish and get away with it because of [1]Gell-Mann amnesia . Individuals on social media are even worse and just believe anything that fits their prejudices.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20070714204136/http://www.michaelcrichton.net/speech-whyspeculate.html

> Mind you, it was hilarious watching Farage suck up to him so abjectly, only to be thrown under the bus later the same day for daring to voice disagreement with one of the drug addled fool's holy pronouncements.

it was a particularly stupid pronouncement though. I do not blame Farage for not anticipating that even Musk would be stupid or extreme enough to back Tommy Robinson.

The guy is trying to relevant everywhere.

He has a cult following and some people hang off his every word.

God complex coming next, if not already in place!

For a long time I suspected that Musk suffered from bipolar disorder. This may still be the case, but by now it is just a side dish to his narcissistic sociopathic condition.

He claims to have Aspergers, a form of Autism that is now deprecated as a diagnosis*

I don't know if he's ever discussed any actual details of this. Perhaps he could compare notes with Mark Zuckerberg?

*Asperger's diagnosis for a number of children during the 1930's in Austria and Germany got them sent for "special treatment" which permanently cured them of living.

That's the bit I have trouble with. I really don't understand why his crank wingnut observations from an armchair 5000 miles away are even considered. I suspect he's more like Trump than I'd like - so batshit crazy people tune in to hear what he says next. I really just want an MP to respond with "whatever Pedo Guy, why don't you send your submarine to fix it?", although "don't feed the troll" comes an honourable second to that.