Million GPU clusters, gigawatts of power – the scale of AI defies logic
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Such a figure seemingly defies logic. Even if you could source enough GPUs for this [1]new Colossus , the power and cooling – not to mention capital – required to support it would be immense.
At $30,000 to $40,000 a pop, adding another 900,000 GPUs would set xAI back $27 to $36 billion. Even with a generous bulk discount, it still won't be cheap regardless of whether they're deployed over the course of several years. Oh, and that's not even taking into account the cost of the building, cooling, and the electrical infrastructure to support all those accelerators.
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Speaking of power, depending on what generation of accelerators xAI plans to deploy, the GPU nodes alone would require roughly 1.2 to 1.5 gigawatts of generation. That's more than the typical nuclear reactor – and the big ones, no less. And again, that's just for the compute.
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Your gut reaction might be to chalk these figures up to an eccentric billionaire whose off-the-cuff quip was taken as gospel and then parroted by the local Chamber of Commerce as fact. However, when you take into consideration what the competition is doing, the scale of this new Colossus starts to look a little less crazy.
A terminal case of AI fever
The same week as the Greater Memphis Chamber dropped the details on xAI's reported expansion plans, rival model dev and Xitter competitor Meta [5]announced a massive datacenter campus of its own. The facility, slated for construction in Richland Parish, Louisiana, will span 4 million square feet and cost $10 billion.
Meta hasn't revealed how many accelerators the plant might hold, but CEO Mark Zuckerberg has already [6]committed to deploying 600,000 some GPUs this year alone. To put that number into perspective, that's [7]nearly as many H100-class GPUs analysts believe Nvidia shipped in all of 2023.
From what we're told, the site will likely be built in phases over the next few years, and it'll consume a monumental amount of power.
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For reference, it's not unusual for a typical cloud datacenter campus with multiple data halls to have a rated capacity of around 50 megawatts. With power constraints in the US already proving problematic for datacenter operators, you'd think this would be a problem for all these AI obsessed hyperscalers, cloud providers, and model builders – but instead, they're just bankrolling their own generator plants.
As for Meta's Louisiana campus, it has partnered with Entergy to construct three gas turbines with a combined energy production of more than 2.2 gigawatts.
We'll have to wait and see if the entire site is ever completed. We can only imagine an AI bubble burst might derail those plans in a hurry – assuming it is in fact a bubble. We'll let you debate that in the comments.
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In any case, with numbers this large, suddenly, the idea of building a nuclear plant's worth of power doesn't sound so crazy after all. In fact, Meta seems so confident that its power demands are going to continue to grow that it's started [10]fishing for suppliers that can get it one to four gigawatts of nuclear energy by the early 2030s.
[11]Day after nuclear power vow, Meta announces largest-ever datacenter powered by fossil fuels
[12]Altman to Musk: Don't go full supervillain – that's so un-American
[13]Fission impossible? Meta wants up to 4GW of American atomic power for AI
[14]AWS says AI could disrupt everything – and hopes it will do just that to Windows
The AI fever with which the tech giants have collectively come down has served as a sort of sea change for the nuclear industry as a whole, with cloud providers fronting the cash to reinstate retired reactors – and even plop their datacenters behind the meter in the case of AWS' new [15]Cumulus datacenter complex .
Speaking of Amazon, it's certainly not just Meta and xAI dreaming big. The e-commerce giant turned cloud provider last week cranked up the heat on its AI ambitions. At re:Invent, the hyperscaler revealed a litany of AI products, systems, and models – among them, an AI supercomputer built in collaboration with model builder Anthropic using " [16]hundreds of thousands " of its custom Trainium2 accelerators, which we can only imagine will require a fair bit of power themselves.
Earlier this summer, we [17]poked some fun at Oracle's "zettascale" supercomputer which, at 4-bit precision and sparsity coming to its aid, will have a peak output of 2.4 zettaFLOPS.
While real world performance for training will be closer to 459 exaFLOPS at the FP/BF16 precision mostly commonly used today, it'll still employ a serious number of GPUs – totaling 131,072 – to do it. That's not quite a million, but it's still pretty huge compared to the clusters being deployed by CoreWeave and others.
We could keep going – but you get the picture.
A new arms race
It seems that the hype surrounding generative AI hasn't just changed the way we think about scaling compute.
In many respects, the mobilization of capital we've seen around AI is reminiscent of the space race, just with China playing the part of the Red Menace instead of Russia.
The sheer number of hurdles required to put a man in orbit, let alone the Moon, forced scientists and engineers to overcome challenges and advance technology that moved the world forward as a whole.
And while there's certainly a nationalistic element to all of this, it's not just one country racing against the next. Driving these investments are some of the largest and most powerful corporations in the world.
It seems that in this new AI arms race we may see a similar course of events as power, cooling, and economic constraints drive investments in things like nuclear power or sustainable computing. It won't be because it's the right thing to do, but because it's the difference between winning and losing the race – and making money doing it. ®
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Re: "the entire industry is chasing the AI dragon"
It flew away and you all got burned by its breath.
Re: "the entire industry is chasing the AI dragon"
Is this to imply that the industry is getting high on AI? Or should I just assume that the authors have no idea what "chasing the dragon" is?
I guess we can just put this phrase next to "light years in the future" in the List Of Phrases I'm Going To Have To Learn To Ignore Without Reacting[TM].
Truly exciting.
Millions of GPUs? Thousands of ExaFLOPS?
Wow. Just think of the possibilities.
Pictures of people with previously unimaginable numbers of arm joints and fingers.
Whole new areas of hallucinated alternative facts, confidently asserted in mere femtoseconds. Black will be white, up will be down, left will be right, P will be both NP and also Cents.
Videos with bizarre rendering and continuity errors, gurgitated on-demand and near instantly.
Truly, we are blessed.
Re: Truly exciting.
Huge costs, no real goals, the hallucinations have been built into the foundation.
A quote
I can't remember where I read this - it was a very long time ago, but I never forgot it.
"Those which the gods intend to destroy, they first drive insane".
Re: A quote
"Those which the gods intend to destroy, they first introduce to Masayoshi Son"
Reality will bite in the end
All the dreaming about massive AI compute is great but sooner or later has to crash into the hard financial reality that it has to somehow generate money to both build and run it. At the moment it doesn't look like there's paying demand for what already exists let alone more, at least if all the desperate attempts to give it away for free are a clue.
About the only one who likely doesn't care is the one hyping xAI, given both the likely financial chicanery around who'll actually end up paying for it all plus the reality that the real profits from their businesses usually come from funding rounds and stock, not the actual business operations; all that truly matters is sustaining the pump.
"one hyperbolic billionaire"
Hyperbolics sums it up perfectly.
I'm waiting for AI to invent the hypergolic billionaire.
Proof that Trump isn't really a billionaire - when he touched Musk they didn't both spontaneously ignite
Literally building the infinite monkey nonsense generating machine.
Just wait until it writes " All your AI are belong to AI. ".
A Mystery to Me
Where will the revenue come from? From you and me, I guess. Or at least from you. My 2025 New Year resolution is to disengage entirely from US mega corporations.
Re: A Mystery to Me
From companies wanting to reduce their workforce and increase their turnover. At least, that's the plan.
Might work, might not. Personally, I reckon it's another dot com bubble - a rapid, indeed feverish, cycle of investment and development that everyone wanted to be part of, which mostly just burnt money, but did generate a few worthwhile things from the flaming wreckage that it left behind. We'll see.
GJC
But......
Will it play Far Cry
Cant compare..
the 60's space race with this AI race.
The space race was government driven with national pride at stake so wasn't commercially driven and within the two countries playing the game, there were no competing interests, no splitting of investment money, technology etc. Thus they (the US) reached their goals.
Plus, given the investment needed and the lack of egotistical and narcissistic super billionaires in the 60's only a government had the resources to fund a trip to the Moon.
The AI race has no such unifying features. It's different factions splitting the investments, each with competing computing platforms and end goals.
Thus it's chances of success are reduced.
And I would venture to say that the challenges of putting a person on the Moon in the 60's with the primitive hardware, software and systems they had available is a far more impressive achievement than if/when AI actually becomes generally useful (aside from some niche edge cases)
Bluck
1.2 to 1.5 Gigawatts
So, it could, conceivably, turn out that the plant requires exactly 1.21 Gigawatts? They're going to need a reliable source of plutonium.
And the really impressive thing is that these huge systems can still be effortlessly outperformed by 1.5kg of mushy stuff running on about 50W.
"the entire industry is chasing the AI dragon"
And they'll never catch it...