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Microsoft reboots Windows Recall, but users wish they could forget

(2024/11/25)


The second coming of Windows Recall has brought with it a litany of issues, reminding users that there's a reason why the snapshotting technology remains a preview for Windows Insiders.

Recall, which debuted [1]earlier this year , is an application designed to take a snapshot of a user's screen every few seconds and store it for future retrieval. Users can "recall" what they were doing via a text query or scroll back through a timeline.

The rollout drew deserved criticism from privacy and security professionals due to its half-baked implementation. It was clearly more of an engineering demonstration that had somehow been deemed fit for release to the public before its many creases had been ironed out. These included capturing sensitive information including passwords and lacking sufficient data security measures.

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Microsoft was eventually forced [3]to pull the product less than three weeks after its announcement. The rethink was only supposed to take weeks, but after months of delay, Recall was finally [4]re-released last week, although this time only to Windows Insiders with the requisite Copilot+ PC hardware.

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Starting with Windows Insiders has proven wise, even if Copilot+ PCs are desperate for a "killer app" to justify their expense, as users have added to Microsoft's list of known Recall issues.

The biggest, which is acknowledged by Microsoft but has also been [7]reported by users , is a delay in snapshots being stored, or the storage packing up completely. Microsoft's advice is to reboot your PC.

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Then there's getting rid of Recall. It can be enabled or disabled from "Turn Windows Features on or off," but the binaries still persist. Microsoft stated: "In a future update we will completely remove the binaries."

[9]Now's your chance to try Microsoft's controversial Windows Recall ... maybe

[10]Will Windows Insiders find Recall lurking under the Christmas tree?

[11]Recall the Recall recall? Microsoft thinks it can make that Windows feature palatable

[12]Microsoft resurrects Windows Recall for upcoming preview

Other reports include complaints that Recall is not accurate when storing the content of images, although one user told us the OCR aspects work well. So, good with text, but not so good with recognizing what is in an image.

Storing and retrieving snapshots appear to be causing the most issues. [13]CNBC reported : "It can go several minutes between making snapshots, leaving gaps in the timeline."

According to a user, the preview was more locked down than the earlier incarnation, which is a good sign, although it took a while to start showing results. "Click to Do," a feature that lets users take action on selected text or images from snapshots, was mildly criticized for its limited target options.

There is no timeline for when Microsoft will consider Recall ready for general release – even in preview form. So far, it seems that while Microsoft has improved the product's security, the fact that some users must reboot to kick the snapshotting service back into life demonstrates the company has work to do.

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But that, after all, is what the Windows Insider program is for. ®

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[1] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/22/windows_recall/

[2] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/aiml&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2Z0StMYp0bT2mC0zlRIdg_QAAAEU&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

[3] https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/14/microsoft_recall_release_delayed/

[4] https://www.theregister.com/2024/11/22/microsoft_recall_release/

[5] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/aiml&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44Z0StMYp0bT2mC0zlRIdg_QAAAEU&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[6] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/aiml&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33Z0StMYp0bT2mC0zlRIdg_QAAAEU&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[7] https://bsky.app/profile/tomwarren.co.uk/post/3lbqgup4atc26

[8] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/aiml&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44Z0StMYp0bT2mC0zlRIdg_QAAAEU&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2024/11/22/microsoft_recall_release/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2024/11/12/recall_windows_insiders_december/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/27/microsoft_has_some_thoughts_about/

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/22/microsoft_recall_redux/

[13] https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/23/microsofts-recall-photographic-memory-search-has-issues-in-test-build.html

[14] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/aiml&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33Z0StMYp0bT2mC0zlRIdg_QAAAEU&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[15] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Doctor Syntax

File under "Neat trick, bad idea".

Re: "Neat trick"

MiguelC

Not even original, lots of spyware/stalkerware have done this for decades

When stuck in a hole

Andy Non

keep digging?

(Microsoft hoping to unearth someone who actually wants this feature)

Re: When stuck in a hole

Guy de Loimbard

100% with you.

We've invented something, you need it.....

What do you mean you don't? You do need it and we will rebrand it until you do need it.

Re: When stuck in a hole

DoctorNine

We've decided you need to give us more money. See this new toy? We are going to fix things so your old toys won't work unless you buy it. Now gimme.

Re: When stuck in a hole

zimzam

So far it only qualifies as half a hole.

Re: When stuck in a hole

The commentard formerly known as Mister_C

and they're digging it round when it ought t'be square.

Guy de Loimbard

Classic.

Anything to keep growth coming, clutch at straws, in the guise of things the public want, read the shareholders demand growth.

I don't want Recall, or Copilot AI+ PC or whatever it's being labelled as.

Eventually the mountains of electronic waste will catch up with Capitalism :)

The Dogs Meevonks

The electronic waste will be around long after capitalism has rendered the human race extinct... the planet will be fine in the long run, it will recover and last a few billion more years... we will all be long extinct, nothing more than a flu virus that affected the planet for a few hours one winter of it's existence.

Wang Cores

"The planet will be fine, it's the humans that are fucked."

Distraction

original_rwg

Microsoft stated: "In a future update we will completely remove the binaries."

Look! A squirrel!

Re: Distraction

cyberdemon

By "remove the binaries" I assume they mean "incorporate them into the Windows kernel".

Recall will be optional: You will be able to choose whether you want to see its output or not.

the storage packing up completely

Neil Barnes

Amazing. Microsoft can't manage fopen(), fclose()?

Re: the storage packing up completely

NorthIowan

Maybe they just need to require the laptop to have a 60TB SSD drive so there is room for the last 3 minutes of snapshots.

So.....?

The Dogs Meevonks

I couldn't give a flying fuck if they've improved security, I don't give a shit if they make it the most secure and unhackable piece of technology on the planet.

If they try to force it on anyone, they're utter fucking cunts... offer it as a download if people want it, otherwise they should fuck right off with the idea of it.

Killer App

navarac

Recall is the killer app that could killed the use of MSFT products - totally and full-stop. You are nuts to even consider having this on a PC connected to the Internet. It is just asking for trouble.

Micro$oft

JWLong

..........continues to walk that dead dog.

Hmmmm.....

Mentat74

The smell of desperation...

Anything to get people to 'upgrade' to a new pc with a nice fresh Win11 license...

I'm afraid Microshaft is going to have a bad day come October 25 2025...

Re: Hmmmm.....

MyffyW

My fear is it will be Microsoft's remaining customers who will have a bad day come 25th Oct '25, when further exploits are uncovered and the remaining millions of those PCs cannot be patched. And AI will do precisely nothing to lift a finger short of suggesting new and interesting way to exploit the exploit.

Wang Cores

The beatings will continue until sales improve is a great position for a competitor in the free market.

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