Microsoft breaks timezones in Settings and calls on an unlikely ally for help
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The [1]problem lies in Microsoft's shiny new Windows Settings app. Users without administrative privileges might not be able to change the time zone, which could make life difficult for those on the move. Users that, for example, might be making the trip to Chicago to listen to Microsoft insisting that everything is wonderful and AI is just super.
There is a workaround, however: "The time zone can be changed as normal via the Date and Time section of the Windows Control Panel."
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Yes, that thing that Microsoft [3]suggested in a support document was set for deprecation before hastily updating that same [4]document to merely say that Control Panel was a bit long in the tooth and was being kept on for compatibility reasons.
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It also said, "Many of the settings in Control Panel are in the process of being migrated to the Settings app, which offers a more modern and streamlined experience," and that "you're encouraged to use the Settings app, whenever possible."
Unless, of course, it gets broken and the flaw is not picked up by Microsoft's legendary quality control processes.
[7]Microsoft decides it's a good time for bad UI to die
[8]The Windows Control Panel joins the ranks of the undead
[9]Linux project's first full version has all the subtlety of a Rhino in a China shop
[10]That old box of tech junk you should probably throw out saves a warehouse
Regarding the time zone issue, Microsoft said it "is actively investigating the issue and will provide a resolution in an upcoming Windows update." Since the functionality works for administrators, it sounds like a policy or security flag has been set incorrectly.
In the meantime, affected users can take advantage of the legacy code with which Windows is loaded and use the old time and date Control Panel applet to set the time zone manually if needed.
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It would also be a good idea to avoid pondering why a setting that only Administrators can access in the Windows Settings app can be changed via the legacy Control Panel.
El Reg asked Microsoft for an explanation, and will update this piece should the Windows vendor respond. ®
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[1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-11-24h2#1631msgdesc
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[3] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/22/windows_control_panel_deprecation/
[4] https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/system-configuration-tools-in-windows-f8a49657-b038-43b8-82d3-28bea0c5666b
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[7] https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/02/microsoft_control_panel_opinion/
[8] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/27/the_windows_control_panel_joins/
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/11/rhino_linux_v1/
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Re: Escalating escalations escalated
Clearly, the developers of Control Panel git it right, probably because they were thinking about the problem they were solving: setting time and date around the world, not simply porting code without that level of engagement.
Personally, comparing the Settings App to Control Panel, it obvious that the designers of Control Panel had a better appreciation of UI/UX than the designers of Settings app….
Re: Escalating escalations escalated
You can see this for yourself by making the Settings Apps app less than full screen. Now try to find the related link to the old control panel "Programs and Settings". Its not there? Really? Just make the window full-screen and it will re-appear on the upper right... Its as if the people who designed the new Settings Apps app never have to use it.
When those developers get to hell, their standing desks will be 2m high, their swivel chairs won't stop spinning, their keyboards will have spikes on the keys, their mice will be red-hot, and each mouse click will move the pointer a random distance in a random direction.
Re: Escalating escalations escalated
Clearly, the developers of Control Panel git it right, probably because
The developers of Control Panel were working on Win 2 or 3, they weren't considering admin permissions.
And on WinXP, you couldn't even see the calendar from the task bar. You needed admin to change the date. It's just that even on WinXP, a lot of users will still logged in that way.
Micro$hiny
My sides hurt!
(+1 Sir Vulture for an article oozing sarc.)
Windows
Its time is up.
Re: Windows
Only in New Zealand. In California it has another 15 hours.
Time zone joke. Niche.
Bug? Feature
I haven't been able to change the timezone in the settings app on my corporate Win10 laptop for several years - the trusty old Control Panel, however, does the job.
I always thought that this is a feature rather than a bug - a periodic reminder to never, ever, ever, ever use the pile of shite that MS calls the Settings app.
Re: Bug? Feature
...never, ever, ever, ever use the pile of shite that MS calls the Settings app Windows.
Sorry, I really couldn't help myself.
It's the Millennial Bug
Looks pretty, but doesn't work.
Escalating escalations escalated
It would also be a good idea to avoid pondering why a setting that only Administrators can access in the Windows Settings app can be changed via the legacy Control Panel.
Because the levels upon levels of crud and access tables to control privileged access for unprivileged users plus the if-then-else trees to figure out and mitigate the bugs introduced caused privilege escalations to have bugs letting unprivileged users have access to privileged operations by escalating their privileges. The subject has now been escalated to QA using AI to generate new if-then-else trees, more crud and an additional level of access tables.