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AI PCs flood the market. Their makers hope someone wants them

(2024/11/14)


Warehouses in the IT channel are stocking up with AI-capable PCs - industry watcher Canalys claims these made up 20 percent of all shipments during Q3 2024, amounting to some 13.3 million units worldwide.

"Shipments," of course, simply means that these devices have left the makers' factory and been delivered to distributors, rather than 13.3 million AI-capable PCs being snapped up by buyers.

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Nevertheless, Canalys says this figure represents a sequential growth of 49 percent over the previous quarter, meaning that vendors are ramping up output of AI-enabled systems in the hope these will prove popular.

Whether this will be the case at present is debatable. None of the industry experts we approached were able to give us any real insight on how well these AI boxes are selling compared with plain old PCs, or whether they are getting any traction with buyers.

In one sense, this doesn't really matter, since it is likely you won't be able to buy any computer that isn't AI-enabled before long. Recent forecasts [2]estimate that such systems may account for 43 percent of PCs by 2025, and go on to make up the bulk of the market by 2026.

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However, a look at the figures shows that Canalys is counting Macs in its AI-capable data, and these account for about half (47 percent) of all shipments, meaning that about 7 million Windows AI boxes were let loose into the channel during Q3.

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What is an AI-capable PC anyway? Canalys defines it as a desktop or laptop that includes some dedicated hardware for accelerating AI workloads, such as the neural processing unit (NPU) embedded in many of the most recent processors.

But then Microsoft added to the confusion by introducing its own definition of "Copilot+ PC" to describe Windows systems with an NPU that performs at 40 [6]TOPS or more, which is one measure of a computer's AI processing prowess.

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As Canalys says in its report, both Intel and AMD are still awaiting Copilot+ PC support from Microsoft for their latest CPUs, adding another swirl of uncertainty to the mix.

Those Copilot+ PC boxes are likely to see lower sales than the plain AI-capable systems, analyst Kieren Jessop at Canalys told us.

"The Windows units will ramp in scale in line with a silicon transition. That will be split between Copilot+ PCs (which have an NPU > 40 TOPS) and under 40 TOPS PCs. So far the signals are that Copilot+ PCs will have a far slower adoption rate than AI-capable Windows PCs of under 40 TOPS," he said.

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However, if it is performance you are concerned about, "it's important to note that GPUs still far outperform NPUs in terms of raw performance," Jessop said, while NPUs are more power-efficient and better suited for running perpetually.

On those shipment figures, Jessop explained that many of these will form part of normal buying cycles rather than be driven by specific AI use cases. In particular, the looming [9]end of Windows 10 support next year will be pushing many organizations into a PC refresh.

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[12]Apple throws shade on pokey AI PCs, claims its maxed out M4 chips are 4x faster

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"The 'AI capability' becomes a draw to businesses typically serving as a future-proofing measure rather than a primary purchase motivator at this stage," he said. Consumers, Jessop added, are "more likely to choose an AI PC for the extended battery life (via NPU advantages) rather than the AI features at this point."

Canalys says a key challenge for vendors will be to convince customers to future-proof for a potential wave of on-device AI use cases, which is almost entirely lacking at the moment.

In other words, AI PCs currently seem like a solution in search of a problem, but vendors will be keen to push them as they carry a 10 percent to 15 percent price premium over standard PCs, as Canalys has previously noted.

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Bryan Ma, IDC VP for Devices Research, agreed that the industry appears to be desperately searching for a use case for AI PCs.

"The hope is that both Microsoft as well as third-party ISVs will emerge with more solid use cases in the upcoming years, but at this point such use cases are not obvious," he told us. "In the meantime, shipments of these AI PCs are a supply-side push, in large part on the basis of these systems featuring the latest-and-greatest processors rather than them being purchased specifically for on-device AI."

So the transition to the world of AI-capable PCs seems inevitable as vendors gradually fill out their portfolio with systems based on processors with embedded NPUs. But as [16]recent figures from Gartner show, the lack of a rebound in PC sales figures appears to indicate that buyer interest in AI-capable computers is - so far - minimal. ®

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[1] https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/01/incoming_wave_of_ai_pcs/

[2] https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/25/analysts_ai_pcs_shipments_gartner/

[3] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2ZzaBEe8-7pcEO11KTVUpMgAAAIw&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

[4] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44ZzaBEe8-7pcEO11KTVUpMgAAAIw&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[5] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33ZzaBEe8-7pcEO11KTVUpMgAAAIw&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[6] https://www.theregister.com/Tag/TOPS

[7] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44ZzaBEe8-7pcEO11KTVUpMgAAAIw&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[8] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33ZzaBEe8-7pcEO11KTVUpMgAAAIw&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/14/final_year_windows_10/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2024/11/11/npu_debate/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2024/11/07/it_spend_europe_2025/

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/31/apple_m4_ai_chip/

[13] https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/05/ai_pc_gaming/

[14] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/28/windows_to_drive_pc_refresh/

[15] https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/13/win_11_refreshes_delayed_pc_makers/

[16] https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/10/pc_market_gartner_canalys/

[17] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Generative AI is only a bullshit generator.

Fonant

Generative AI is no more than a bullshit generator. It produces text or images or sounds that are almost indistinguishable from actual text/images/sounds but that are "imaginary" and only match "truth" or "reality" to some unknown extent.

Pattern-matching AI, used for complex image or data analysis, is potentially useful, so long as the AI model has been trained well enough. Even then, the output should be treated with care.

Who wants an "AI PC"? I see a Big Bubble that is going to burst sooner rather than later!

Re: Generative AI is only a bullshit generator.

lnLog

An NPU provides no battery life advantages if it is never used, and just uses up die area. The sooner needs to come sooner than it currently is to minimise the waste of resources and energy being shovelled by those investing in the current FOMO rush.

Re: Generative AI is only a bullshit generator.

The Central Scrutinizer

Huh, no kidding. I have a perfectly capable desktop computer with plenty of grunt that will keep me going for a good while yet.

I don't want some "AI" interfering with my daily work, thank you very much. It smacks of 3DTV all over again.

Inventor of the Marmite Laser

I want an AU PC as much as I want a 3D TV.

I don't want either.

en.es

I came to the comments to make the exact same comparison...

Just 'No' to both...

Sorry that handle is already taken.

It turns out nobody else wanted a 3D TV either

They are more expensive so they will sell

alain williams

High St PC store salesmen will convince non-savvy people who are replacing their 10 y/old machine that has just died that they need it to future proof themselves, or some such bollocks. They will prolly then sell them a HP printer.

Market share of those will increase...

Joe W

... as more machines will have the NPU on the CPU die anyways, and cheaper machines are pulled from the market.

I think I need to future proof my machines and get one without all the carp.

An AI PC is ...

vtcodger

An AI PC is a PC with a small plastic "AI Ready" sticker on the front panel. It sells for a 22% premium over the "legacy" model with the same motherboard, CPU, memory, and storage devices. As ifxit will report, it differs from the legacy version only in the color plastic used for the external ports and the presence of a 58 pin connector connected to a 57 wire internal cable which is not actually connected to anything on the proximal end. The cable says "reserved for future use."

“Future proofing measure”

Roland6

Given we are talking about desktops and laptops with typically a 3~4 year finance driven refresh cycle. Don’t see much need for future proofing, by the time the future arrives those systems purchased today will be heading toward the end of their normal business life.

No thanks

navarac

Just NO - no thanks shysters..

What are the use cases?

Sorry that handle is already taken.

What will the average PC user get out of their CPU's manufacturer allocating silicon to an NPU as opposed to any other alternative?

It seems like there's been a lot more hype around AI-enabled or AI-accelerated CPUs than there have been suggestions for what they might actually be used for . Cart, horse etc.

DYSLEXICS OF THE WORLD, UNTIE!