Apple quietly admits 8GB isn't enough in 2024, M4 iMac to ship with 16GB as standard
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The systems themselves haven't changed much from when the M1 variant first made its debut in mid-2021. Perhaps the biggest cosmetic change this time is around the 24-inch 4.5K display, which can be had with new nano-texture antiglare coating — if you're willing to shell out another $200, that is.
The real upgrades are all under the surface, where we're treated to a new 12 MP "Center Stage" webcam that was presumably pulled out of an iPhone spare parts bin, and the beefier M4 chip [1]first seen in Apple's slimmed-down iPad Pros this spring.
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As we discussed earlier this year, the M4 can be had with either eight or 10 CPU and GPU cores and comes equipped with a substantially more powerful neural processing unit (NPU) capable of churning out 38 TOPS of what we assume is INT8 performance. That puts it a fair distance behind AMD and Intel's latest NPUs, which boast 50 and 48 TOPS respectively, which had to beat Microsoft's [3]40 TOPS minimum spec to be considered a Copilot+ AI PC. Apple, naturally, can set its own performance targets.
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The improved NPU should support a bevy of Apple Intelligence AI features teased back at WWDC. But, at launch, Apple says iMac users will be able to take advantage of its system-wide writing assistant to rewrite, proofread, or summarize text. Siri is apparently much better at making sense of your requests too, though we'll let y'all be the judge of that.
However, many of the biggest features headlining "Apple Intelligence," like OpenAI integration, won't arrive until a December update.
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As we understand it, if you've got an M1 Mac or newer, you won't need to upgrade to get these features.
Beyond more TOPS and higher perf — Apple says the iMac with M4 chip is up to 1.7x faster in productivity tasks and up to 2.1x faster in "demanding workflows" like image editing and gaming compared to those with the M1 — arguably the most anticipated change was to the memory loadout.
Until now, Apple has insisted that 8 GB of memory is enough for most users. Late last year Apple execs [7]opined that 8 GB on a Mac was the equivalent of 16 GB on a PC because the operating system is more efficient. However, with the world now obsessed with memory hungry generative AI models, it seems Apple finally sees reason to pump that up to 16 GB.
[8]Just how private is Apple's Private Cloud Compute? You can test it to find out
[9]Qualcomm 'pausing' X-Elite Dev Kit, offering refunds
[10]Apple macOS 15 Sequoia is officially UNIX. If anyone cares...
[11]PC shipments stuck in neutral despite AI buzz
In addition to more memory, gone is the old base model iMac, which came with just two USB-C ports rather than the four found on higher-end models. On the topic of USB-C, Apple appears to be abandoning its proprietary Lightning charging standard entirely. Its Magic Keyboard, Trackpad, and Mouse now come equipped with USB-C.
Apple's M4 iMacs are available for pre-order now and will hit store shelves on Nov. 8. Prices range from $1,299 for the base model and top out at around $2,899 if you max one out with the nano-texture display, 32 GB of RAM, and 2 TB of onboard storage.
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As for when we'll get refreshed MacBooks, Mac Studios, or Mac Minis, only time will tell. ®
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[1] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/07/apple_m4_ipad/
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[3] https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/31/microsoft_copilot_hardware/
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[7] https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/09/apple_exec_defends_8gb/
[8] https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/25/apple_private_cloud_compute/
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/17/qualcomm_kills_xelite_dev_kit/
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/11/macos_15_is_unix/
[11] https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/10/pc_market_gartner_canalys/
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Re: And what about our friend Linux.
Apple once put out a statement that their computer was the was the cheapest Risc machine... Acorn pointed out the A3010 was £199 at the time. Apple said "we hadn't heard of Acorn". While being a joint shareholder in ARM with Acorn at the time. Facts have never held back Apple marketing!
Re: And what about our friend Linux.
"Facts have never held back Apple marketing!"
Never held them back? Never even troubled their heads, more likely. (other, similar marketroids are also available.)
Re: And what about our friend Linux.
> Do Apple realise that Linux runs on PC's ?
I’m sure they do, just that most people will be used to Windows running on under specified hardware…
Plus MS, are still in their reality disconnect, with the minimum specifications for W11 being 4GB of memory and a 2-core 1GHz CPU, which as we know is only really sufficient if all you want is to run Windows; put MS Office, 365 and Teams on it and unsurprisingly that becomes something much bigger. To the point that a Mac becomes more attractive than a Surface…
Excessive price?
You can buy an entire Nxtpaper tablet for the price of Apple's anti-shiny option.
Re: Excessive price?
From what I've seen online, you can buy a NXTPAPER tablet for a lot less, which is probably justified, because it's an Android tablet with 6 instead of 16 GB of slower RAM, at most 256 GB of storage, a 6-year old CPU which the M4 out-benchmarks by about 800%, and doesn't get Android updates because TCL can't be bothered. Also, it's a tablet instead of a desktop. I'm not sure why you picked that as your comparison. Apple products are often more expensive than they need to be, but completely different products don't make that point.
When i first got the laptop im typing this on in 2022 it had 8GB as standard and i was running Linux Mint Mate and the OS was using about 700MB of the system RAM before i launched any programs. But as soon as you start opening lots of browser tabs that 8GB can soon be eaten up so i ended up needing another 8GB in to double my total RAM usage.
Thankfully i had bought a laptop with upgradable RAM unlike those who bought the current generation of Apple Macs which will only ever be able to support 8GB due to it being integrated on the board.
> Thankfully i had bought a laptop with upgradable RAM
Not so common now, with soldered in DDR5 RAM…
My 2012 mac mini (I use it daily), came with 2 gigs, upgraded to 16 gigs and ssd, rarely do I have an issue, 20-30 tabs across 3 different browsers isn't unusual.
"640k should be enough for anyone"
I remember in the early 80's declaring 64K is enough. The guy I was talking to, with license plates "GOFAST" at a star party (astronomy) said that if you had a Terabyte you would find a use for it. It sounded a ridiculous statement at the time but with the exponential bloat of the OS....
> It sounded a ridiculous statement at the time but with the exponential bloat of the OS....
Even in circa 2002, 1TB was a massive amount of HDD storage for a desktop, now …
> if you had a Terabyte you would find a use for it. It sounded a ridiculous statement at the time
Big graphs, genome assembly, "Make on demand" chemical datasets, novel types of imaging etc
There are plenty of usecases where having a TB or more RAM can come in handy
This is oddly like moving to a larger house... I had lots of space when I moved in, when I moved out~not so much!
And what about our friend Linux.
"Late last year Apple execs opined that 8 GB on a Mac was the equivalent of 16 GB on a PC because the operating system is more efficient."
Do Apple realise that Linux runs on PC's ?