91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with return-to-office, 3-in-4 want to jump ship
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Over 2,500 Amazon employees were polled by Blind, an online forum of verified tech workers, about the return-to-office (RTO) requirement, and the results were striking - only nine percent of surveyed staff said they were happy with back-to-your-desks order. This was reflected in the fact that 73 percent are now considering moving jobs because of [1]the edict .
“RTO blanket policy is crazy, particularly for those of us who were hired remote and far from an office. I have kids and family here so unwilling to relocate,” one Amazon staffer [2]commented . “Even if I didn’t, there’s too great a risk I’d be laid off in six months anyway so why risk a move?”
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According to the poll, carried out days after the official announcement, 32 percent of those questioned said they knew someone who had quit over the return to the office mandate, and 80 percent said that they knew people who were considering doing so.
Blind's shtick is that when you fully sign up for an account, you need to do so [4]using your work email address so that if you say on the site you work for Amazon, it's checked that you actually have a corporate amazon.com address. People can change employer after creating an account, of course, so Blind's polling is not scientific but still a half-decent indicator. Fortune [5]reported the other day that staff were voicing their dissent in an anonymous internal survey.
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“I feel dejected about this five day RTO, but at the same time I am thankful that I have flexibility in my life. I don’t have kids to worry about so I have good savings to depend upon and I can easily uproot my life to something completely different that fits my needs,” a staffer at the cloud giant and online souk said on Blind.
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“Decisions like the one from Jassy are a big reason why I don’t want kids. I don’t need others to impose rules that ruin my quality of life.”
[9]Google's ex-CEO U-turns after saying staff 'going home early' killed winning
[10]Return to Office mandates boost company profits? Nope
[11]Return to office mandates had senior employees jumping ship
[12]Support, don't micromanage, say researchers who find WFH intensified 'anxiety' in some
It's not just staff leaving because of the new policy but recruitment is also being hit, it seems. A Microsoft employee chimed in on the message boards with a report that Amazon is having trouble hiring staff since the policy was announced, and employees at SpaceX and others agreed that RTO meant Amazon was off their list of folks to work for.
"I just had an Amazon recruiter blow up my phone and inbox five times in the last 24 hours to get me to provide my availability for an onsite interview," the Redmond staffer claimed. "I just asked the recruiter why they are rushing to hire and he said the hiring managers are pissed that so many candidates dropped out of the pipeline in just the last 24 hours."
However, more than a few on the message boards were skeptical, with many pointing out that office work had been the norm and people shouldn't complain. Others pointed out that losing staff not wedded to the business, or stealthily laying them off, could well be [13]an aim of the policy, as it can be at other firms - notably, [14]it's claimed , at Dell.
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Amazon isn't alone in requiring more office working, although other tech companies haven't been as strict about it. Then again, if the rest of the tech industry follows suit in enforcing in-office life, people who love working from home won't have many choices. ®
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[1] https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/16/hybrid_amazon_return_to_work/
[2] https://www.teamblind.com/blog/amazon-rto-return-to-office-five-days-week-reaction/
[3] https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/15/wfh_pulled_quit_survey/
[4] https://careers.teamblind.com/8b882785-d39c-4cb2-98c9-874f3509f7f7
[5] https://fortune.com/2024/09/24/amazon-employee-survey-rto-5-day-mandate-andy-jassy/
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[9] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/15/googles_exceo_steps_back_from/
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/02/return_to_office_mandates_do_not_boost_profits/
[11] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/14/return_to_office_mandates/
[12] https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/11/wfh_neuroticism_study/
[13] https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/09/rto_quit_study/
[14] https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/20/dell_rto_mandate/
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Re: Serious question about Blind..
Blind claims it's anonymized - ie: the sign-up process doesn't link your email to your account. It just records that during sign up you had a corporate account handy. I think your employers can scour their email logs to see that you had an email from Blind at one point to verify via a link but they won't know what account you have on there directly. Also FWIW all the big names have their HR on there now anyway to police potential leaks.
It is a quagmire of trolls, experts and people who complain they are 'Bay Area poor' because they only make $280K annual TC as a software engineer
Gee, d'ya think this just might be Amazilla's way of doing a back-door staff reduction?
I read they went from 800K to 1.6M employees in the covid years. This whole thing is just a desperate attempt to regain some control over the place - they have so many people they don’t even know what they’re all doing. Losing 30% without paying severance is a benefit, not a drawback.
Yeah but they pay more than most tech companies so I bet most stay and suck it up if they can't get a transfer to one of the rare equivalent payers.
With the high level of efficiency the global corporate machinery has, I expect every other Fortune 500 mandating 5xRTO in the near future.
Can you imagine if us drones from sector 7G were just as organised as then? I guess it's just funier to use the Internet to hate those that think different from us than to take the big middle finger out of our collective rear ends
spacex
With spacex being elon, would be shocked if they allowed work from remote? Given his stances for that at Twitter and tesla at least.
Serious question about Blind..
I mean, I love it. It's a cesspit. Worse than el reg forums, and that's saying something.
But what kind of asshole registers with their work address, then posts negative comments about their work? You're one data breach or "monetisation decision" at Blind away from your current / past / future employer knowing how you really operate.
I'm serious here, the poster's are clearly intelligent, but this seems like career suicide.