The end is in sight for Windows 10, but Microsoft keeps pushing out fixes
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2024/09/17/windows_10_insider_update/
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In December 2023, Microsoft [1]said that one of the ways it'd comply with the Digital Markets Act (DMA) in the European Economic Area (EEA) was to alter how signing into apps on Windows worked.
If a user with a region set to a country in the EEA signed into Windows, the first application they accessed showed a prompt asking the user if they wished to use the credentials used to sign in to Windows.
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All those months back, Microsoft [3]promised : "If the user chooses to use the same credentials they used to sign in to Windows, this notice will not appear again."
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The company began to roll out the functionality starting in early 2024.
In August, Microsoft [6]admitted the single sign-on (SSO) notice was still prompting too often under Windows 11 when the user was authenticating using a certificate. The same fix [7]has now arrived for Windows 10 for both Release Preview and Beta Channels.
[8]Microsoft says it broke some Windows 10 patching – as it fixes flaws under attack
[9]Windows 11 continues slog up the Windows 10 mountain
[10]Microsoft closes Windows 11 upgrade loophole in latest Insider build
[11]Survey finds that four in five enterprise endpoints could run Windows 11
It's almost as if Windows 10 and 11 were the same thing, just with the latter having a curvier user interface and a set of hardware requirements that necessitate purchasing new hardware.
The latest Insider build update is understandably lighter in features than its Windows 11 stablemate. After all, a little more than a year is left before Microsoft pulls the plug on Windows 10 support for most users. Still, there are some fixes for the army of users still running the doomed operating system.
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Windows freezing when customers use File Explorer and the taskbar, media playback issues, and Microsoft Edge ceasing to respond in Internet Explorer mode are among the resolutions.
While such a browser crash might be maddening for administrators trying to support legacy web applications in a corporate environment, Edge's apparent tendency to ignore any further requests when forced into IE mode is more than understandable as Microsoft ended support for IE in [13]June 2022 . ®
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[1] https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/upcoming-changes-to-windows-single-sign-on/ba-p/4008151
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[6] https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2024/08/30/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22635-4145-beta-channel/
[7] https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2024/09/16/releasing-windows-10-build-19045-4955-to-beta-and-release-preview-channels/
[8] https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/11/patch_tuesday_september_2024/
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/02/windows_11_market_share/
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/19/windows_11_loophole_closed/
[11] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/07/survey_windows_on_enterprise/
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[13] https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/internet-explorer-help-23360e49-9cd3-4dda-ba52-705336cc0de2
[14] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
It’s almost like there’s a completely arbitrary requirement to have a TPM installed…
Not just any TPM, TPM 2.0.
Plenty of companies are sticking with their Windows 10 golden images because it's easier, and these are the customers Microsoft cares about.
Home users will get adware and like it.
no, we won't
We will stay with Win10 or move to Ubuntu/other Linux or buy Macs.
5+ year old self-built PC. Note the self built, I assume that when you built that pc 5 years ago you didn't go down the route of the most bare bones motherboard you could find to save a few
I'm sure that's correct. My 3yo Chillblast PC keps telling me I can have the cursed Win 11.
My just over 2 year old Lenovo laptop/convertible doesn't.
5 years is about correct.
When Win 10 goes out of support the newest CPU that lacks the needed TPM support will be 6 years old.
(Now, you might not have the BIOS options to enable it... but that's another issue. ;) )
To put it another way, I've just bought myself a new PC for WFH, I got it from the local charity place, it's a generic HP desktop thing.
Runs Windows 11 just fine. (I think all the machines they had for sale were WIn 11 compatible).
My somewhat more aged desktop at home can't go to Win11 even if I wanted it to (I don't) as it has TPM 1.2, and I have no idea if it can be updated, nor do I want it to. The laptop this is being typed on shipped with Win11. I put Win10 on it (it wasn't easy), and when Win10 goes out of support, I will move to Ubuntu, assuming that I don't just junk the laptop and get a MacBook.
The desktop machines at the office are mostly capable of running Win11. They all run either Win10 or Ubuntu or are Macs. Again, when Win10 goes out of support, we will either push forward with Win10 and no support, go to Ubuntu, or replace the machines with Macs.
We will not be implementing Win11. We ran a few tests, including this laptop. We did NOT like what we saw, and all Win11 machines are now either Win10 or Ubuntu, depending on how annoying it was to move to Win10. Microsoft really doesn't want you to move to Win10 from Win11; they really don't.
Things that we didn't like included the requirement for a Microsoft Account; even Win11 Pro tried to ease you towards using a Microsoft account, which was NOT going to happen on office machines, and one reason for not having Win11 at home, ever, is the hoops you have to jump through to not have a MA in Win11 Home. See, for example, https://www.howtogeek.com/836157/how-to-use-windows-11-with-a-local-account/ Fuck you, Microsoft; it's my bloody computer, and I do NOT want a Microsoft Account. Period. There were some task bar and Windows menu annoyances as well, and a few other bits of MS idiocy. The main reasons for rejecting Win11 were the hardware requirements, particularly TPM 2, as most machines that couldn't install Win11 didn't have TPM 2, and the insistence on having the damn Microsoft Account.
> 5+ year old self-built PC
Your PC built itself? Please tell us more.
Sorry ?
" Can you consider yourself a tech publication "
Why are you blaming El Reg for this nonsense ?
Did all old hardware receive fixes to every one of the discovered TPM vulnerabilities?
[It's almost as if Windows 10 and 11 were the same thing, just with the latter having a curvier user interface and a set of hardware requirements that necessitate purchasing new hardware.]
No wonder many people refuse to upgrade to Windows 11.
"It's almost as if Windows 10 and 11 were the same thing"
Gosh, it's almost as if Redmond never actually rewrote the Windows Core since XP and just kept piling on the cruft and arbitrarily deciding, via UI "upgrades", which was the next version.
This nonsense with hardware requirements is just the latest in the glaring pieces of proof that Borkzilla is phoning it in rather than actually working on its product.
Of course it wants everyone on Win 11 : that's where The Cloud TM is, which means more monthly revenue because nickel and diming functionalty instead of providing it out-of-the-box.
> a set of hardware requirements that necessitate purchasing new hardware
My 5+ year old self-built PC is capable of running Windows 11, or so the upgrade notification keeps telling me.
How long is your refresh cycle if you think that necessitates purchasing new hardware?
Can you consider yourself a tech publication if all your computers are ancient Thinkpads not supported by modern OSs?