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Windows 11 users still living in the past face forced update, like it or not

(2024/09/11)


Microsoft has warned that a forced update is on the way for Windows 11 21H2 and 22H2 users still clinging to the past.

The warning applies to the remaining users of Enterprise, Education, and IoT Enterprise editions of Windows 11 21H2 and Home and Pro editions of Windows 11 22H2. Devices managed by IT are exempt from the attention of Microsoft's updater.

The final security update for these devices will come on October 8, 2024 – less than a month away – after which will all drop out of support. This means no more monthly security or preview updates.

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In its message center, Microsoft [2]posted : "To help keep you protected and productive, Windows Update will automatically initiate a feature update for Windows 11 Home and Pro devices that are not managed by IT departments when these are nearing end of servicing."

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In other words, customers who are holding off updating will be able to hold off no more – Microsoft expects users to be on Windows 11 23H2. The company said: "Moving to Windows 11, version 23H2 keeps your device supported and receiving monthly updates that are critical to security and ecosystem health."

[5]Windows 11 continues slog up the Windows 10 mountain

[6]Microsoft sends Windows Control Panel to tech graveyard

[7]Microsoft closes Windows 11 upgrade loophole in latest Insider build

[8]Windows 11 Insider preview brings new Sandbox features and fatter FAT32

Keeping users "protected and productive" via an automatic update has been going on for a while. On July 17, 2024, Microsoft [9]announced that Windows 11 version 23H2 was broadly available and eligible Windows 11 devices would get an automatic update as the end of support neared. That time is rapidly approaching, judging by the company's latest messaging.

23H2 is the last hurrah for Windows features such as WordPad and Mixed Reality, which are both set for removal in 24H2, having been added to the [10]deprecation list in 2023. It also introduced Microsoft's Windows Copilot AI assistant, essentially replacing Cortana and helping users who cannot navigate the Windows user interface fiddle with settings.

23H2 also introduced a cloud backup tool and tweaked the interface for File Explorer.

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Some users continue to steer clear of the update despite Microsoft's assertion that any outstanding known issues have been resolved. However, after October's final security update (for applicable devices), 23H2 will be installed via that automatic feature update.

We look forward to seeing how the company copes this time next year when Windows 10 is about to gasp its last breath for many users, but their devices cannot accept an "automatically initiated" update to Windows 11. ®

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[5] https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/02/windows_11_market_share/

[6] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/22/windows_control_panel_deprecation/

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/19/windows_11_loophole_closed/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/16/microsoft_windows_sandbox_preview/

[9] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-11-23H2

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Windows 11, version 23H2 keeps your device supported

Mage

Or possibly if you cheated on Win 11 specs you'll have to go back to Win 10 (no support) or move to Linux.

I moved to Mint with Mate (2017), but still have one decent spec laptop (almost never used) that has Win10. Doesn't meet spec for Win 11.

MS need to rethink what they are doing and make the supposed extra boot / TPM security features an option.

Re: Windows 11, version 23H2 keeps your device supported

Julian Poyntz

Rufus for now has options to remove those requirements, not sure how much longer that will with though

Re: Windows 11, version 23H2 keeps your device supported

Zippy´s Sausage Factory

"MS need to rethink what they are doing and make the supposed extra boot / TPM security features an option."

A cynical part of me thinks that those are to prevent people loading other operating systems on their laptops, like Linux - or really anything that doesn't make money for Microsoft.

A more sensible part of me believes the EU and FTC should be looking at the anti-competitive angle on this very very closely, with a view to whether they need to replace Microsoft's role in secure boot by a neutral third party.

Re: cynical part of me thinks that those are to prevent people loading

Mage

But is there any PC that runs Win 11 that can't run Linux?

Surely it's more about helping "friends" sell new PCs if you want to be cynical.

Linux runs well on HW that doesn't even run Win10, never mind Win !!

Re: Windows 11, version 23H2 keeps your device supported

williamyf

Microsoft charitably sings a version of GRUB so that you can (dual) boot tpm enabled machines with linux.

enough to keep the FTC and EU of their tail.

they simply got tired of the monetary cost of supporting so many processor/chipset/gpu combos, as well as so many OS variations.

the last win10 codebase stuff (win10 IoT 2021 and winserver 2022) will go out of support in early 2032. Expect that ALL support for win11 will end close to those dates, and that win12 will debut a few years befor that date...

Re: Windows 11, version 23H2 keeps your device supported

m4r35n357

At this point, I think the only way M$ could behave any worse in this regard is to start suing its victims for not upgrading ;)

Re: Windows 11, version 23H2 keeps your device supported

0laf

Thank you for giving them that idea

Re: Windows 11, version 23H2 keeps your device supported

0laf

I have a desktop which is older but plenty powerful enough, it doesn't meet W11 spec. I'm not jumping through hoops to get it. It'll go linux of some flavour

You will do as you are told

Pascal Monett

We are the owners of your PC. We know better.

Submit and comply.

Re: You will do as you are told

Antron Argaiv

No forced updates on my Mint 21 system. You can still own your hardware and your OS, even if it used to run Windows.

And that's the way I like it.

Re: You will do as you are told

Dan 55

MS don't know better, they're only doing this because [1]they don't know how to QA so many different major versions .

Before there was XP, Vista, 7, 8.0, and 8.1. Now there's a new major version every half year.

[1] https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/11/patch_tuesday_september_2024/

Re: You will do as you are told

williamyf

I agree 100% with you, but just a small correction, aversion every six months is yesteryear news. Nowadays there is only one new versionper year (21H2, 22H2, 23H2, 24H2, etc) and a "fatter" update six months after that (21H1, 22H1, ...) that does not get much more than a "tolkien" consideration in therms of additional support for microsoft to save face.

I've said it many times and in many places. The last instances of the win10 codebase to drop support will be IoT 21H2 and server 22H2, both in early 2032...

expect support for win11 to lose ALL support close to that timeframe, and win12 to appear a few years early, in order for microsoft further simplify the support matrix.

more so now that they have to support more than one microarchitecture again...

Re: You will do as you are told

ThatOne

> they don't know how to QA so many different major versions

They don't know how to QA even a single version nowadays... :-(

run that past me again

captain veg

"23H2 is the last hurrah for Windows features such as WordPad and Mixed Reality, which are both set for removal in 24H2"

So a non-optional update (not upgrade) will entirely *remove" a useful feature (I'm referring to WordPad here) and replace it with diddly squat? This must be some new meaning of the word update that I was previously unaware of.

-A.

Bill Gates

Best upgrade for Windows 11 is Windows 10.

Well, Jim, I'm not much of an actor either.