arrogant sod ......

noticed hes been getting pudgier with age... hopefully that same arrogance is making him believe he knows more then his doctors :)

Just another spoiled brat.

agreed, Harry does sound like a spoilt brat.

No no... he's building up muscle (muskle?) mass for that cage fight, remember?

His Mum said he cant fight https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/60209/1/elon-musk-s-mum-won-t-let-him-cage-fight-mark-zuckerberg

he just a fat druggy

All the dope smoking gives him the munchies. And explains the drug-addled personality.

...we will seek reciprocal seizure of government assets too.

Ahem,... does he intend to seize the country by force? How delusional can one be?

How delusional can one be?

To be fair, he has given some strong hints.

How delusional can one be?

I think this comes from owning his own social media network with ass kissers repeating and approving whatever he writes. It must be galling to learn that rules are different outside, in the real world.

Musk fires anyone around him who doesn't agree with him so he lives in some kind of strange bubble detached from facts and real world events.

SpaceX will sue in a US court to seize Brazilian assets stored in the US and will likely win because it is a separate company to X and there is no legal ground to seize SpaceX property to cover X's debts.

I think you could argue legal grounds. The notion of "piercing the corporate veil" is well-established. If X is >70% owned by Musk and Space X is >50% owned by Musk - as the Internet suggests - and given Musk's public statements of intention to defy the Brazilian justice system, there is an argument that the corporate structure is a fig leaf concealing Musk's personal direction of the companies and that they should therefore be treated as personal assets owned by the shareholders. Personal assets held in company A are not distinguishable from personal assets held in company B.

It's probably a longshot, but it could be enough to keep the legal wheels grinding until long after the case had any relevance.

And while potential-president Trump might be happy with the image of the US sequestrating the assets of foreign governments on behalf of Musk, I can't help feel that it would be a foreign policy challenge.

A private company suing a foreign country in a US court to seize assets unrelated to the company due to a disagreement in that foreign country with the company (or part of its overall structure) over a legal decision in that foreign country, the consequence of which are entirely restricted to the company's activities and assets in that foreign country?

You think that sort of thing would pass? Wars have started over less. I know the US thinks their laws apply in all countries, but allowing private companies to do the same is beyond crazy.

The US has seized a Venezuelan jet its government use for transporting its leaders around

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/luxury-jet-used-by-venezuelan-president-nicolas-maduro-seized-by-us-officials-13208735

It is likely to win simply because it is a US company suing a non-US company in the US. American courts are very jingoistic.

X is organised under Nevada law with principle offices in California so the obvious forum for a dispute with Brazil would be Fort Worth in Texas, just like Media Matters (Washington DC).

If SpaceX doesn't block X in Brazil when ordered to, then it will have direct legal liability. So, piercing the corporate veil is not going to be needed.

"then it will have direct legal liability."

Then SpaceX will have liabilities for the fines they receive, but still not for X's debts.

Careful there, you don’t want to steal the oxygen from the daily Trump headlines!

Remember, you two idiots are supposed to be a team.

left brain pillocks arrive on cue to any musk related article. perfect.

nobody cared about him, until he stopped x form being a woke only fest. Now panties are fully bunched up. Proving exaclty why he/it was needed in the first place

At least we can spell.

And to think that that oxygen could be used to rust some old car bodies or something else beneficial.

I wonder in what country Musk does have debts or fines . . .

He seems to accumulate those like kids eat candy.

Loads of tech companies think Internet = no country can stop me. To be fair quite a lot of people in IT seem to share that view, when it comes to discussions on governments trying to control the internet on these very forums.

The internet is of course global - so in a lot of cases you can get away with ignoring the law in one country. But only successfully if you don't really make any money there. Or I suppose, if you do all your transactions in crypto. And even then, only if the government isn't really motivated to try and stop you - given how often crypto can be traced.

But once you've got money there, the courts can seize it or block payments being made to you.

It's an interesting question whether there should be the legal right to take money from one company for the actions of another - even with a significant co-owner. You'd have to look at Brazillian law to know if that's allowed - him being owner of one and a major shareholder of another. Might give his minority shareholders pause though...

There are ways of getting at governments in international courts - but it's harder. And even if you win, you often get overturned on appeal. Some of the companies that held Argentina's debt (issued under US law) when they defaulted in 2001 kept suing them all over the world. Got an Argentinian Navy training ship seized in Africa, until a higher court in that country ruled it was illegal. They also got interest payments to other US debtors (on bonds that hadn't been defaulted on) siezed to pay their debts - thus causing another default - that one was tied up in NY courts for years - I don't know if they settled, got paid, or gave up. But that's the opposite effect, where governments forget they're only sovereign at home - you can default on all your domestic debt and nobody can do anything - but if you get cheaper debt in foreign jurisdictions you're under that country's law (not your own) and can't default in the same way. When Greece defaulted in the Eurocrisis, the debts under UK law got paid in full.

There was a really determined investor after Russia defaulted in the 90s who tried to get the Russian embassy in Paris (I think he got a lower court order that was overturned) - managed to get various Aeroflot jets grounded with injunctions - though I think he finally lost all those cases too. I seem to remember he even had a go at seizing some MiGs on display at the Paris air show.