All I get a taskbar that is now oddly worse than before. More telemetry, I can now long switch quickly between users as M$ have their latest marketing slogan there, trying to force you into using an M$ account and not local. Thats just what I see day to day.

Will move over to a for of Linux OS at some stage when W10 stops getting updates (I have now found and used a OneDrive tool and a separate GUI, but it works - and that is critical in this house)

I may need to get a chromebook to get Sky Sports running, but that is now the only bug bear (did not work on Waydroid, WINE - I may have another look at ChomeOS Flex and the "hack" to get Play Store installed - but boy, that is a faff)

My machines, despite running games like Fortnite and supporting my vr headset just fine, do not meet the requirements for windows 11 because of secure boot.

There's three mid range gaming rigs in the house for the family, that'd mean spending anywhere up to £2,500 just to run windows 11. As each needs replacing, maybe I'll have to go with 11, but I don't think Microsoft get that their new shiny not only isn't particularly shiny, but it's definitely not worth trashing three perfectly good rigs for.

The hardware restrictions were particularly poorly thought through, and MS are now suffering the consequence that people don't want to upgrade unless they have to. Whether that has actually cost them any real moolah is an interesting question that I can't answer accurately. I'd hazard a guess that average enterprise cost for a W10>11 upgrade is around $50, but I can't be bothered to do the maths for the differential uptake of Win 11 versus Win 10. Maybe somebody else has got more time on their hands?

I gave in and upgraded two household PCs earlier this year, because they were getting long in the tooth, even so that meant that MS waited two years beyond W11 retail launch for my upgrade money (and even then, since I bought via a reputable licence reseller I don't know if MS got a penny).

Same here.

But at least it keeps crap like Recall out of the (back)door.

Simply because they'll be unwilling to use an unsupported OS, which looks to be in about a year's and a month?

Although you have to admire MS, when they're struggling to get enterprise to adopt it, they then propose to roll in the guaranteed security disaster of Recall. Clearly everybody at Redmond is busy in circle-jerks featuring a lot of dull, barely intelligible Powerpoint decks, and not a single person with influence has any understanding of the needs and wishes of enterprise customers (or personal customers, for that matter).

I'm not sure where MS managed to come up with a figure of 88% of systems out there being W11 compatible. Perhaps they carefully chose sites that regular update their systems.

Many organisations don't. Where I am we have a mix of systems where some are ready for 11 and some aren't, even when the desktop boxes are what the vendor describes as being the same "generation" of machine. If we update the systems which are W11 ready it means that the behaviour of systems varies from one machine to another and that is not a tenable situation.

So the plan is to stay on W10 for as long as possible.

Only when all systems have reached their natural end of life will the HW be replaced.

When MS tried to strong arm everyone from W7 to W10 there are a similar situation, W10 needed UEFI and so BIOS based PCs were stuck, MS were sufficiently keen to get people to W10 they relented and allowed the OS to work on the older boxes.

If MS are keen to see us move to W11 they'll have to do the same thing again.

Alternatively, if they really want, they can buy us a whole load of new PCs, but we don't intend to.

They haven't finished it yet?

At least, I can't find the setting to change the direction of the scroll wheel - either needs a registry hack (the setting is available, just not exposed in the API) or a mouse with additional software...

Funny, I seem to have heard the same song since XP got replaced by Vista.

Hey Redmond : how's about you made an OS that actually pleased people for a change ?

You used to be able to do that . . .

Whats to stop MS doing this again in the future with later versions of Windows beyond Windows 11, and even more stringent requirements.

I'm not sure "more stringent requirements" would matter too much - due to the march of technology it means that for most non-compliant W11 machines, even if it was only the TPM 2.0 requirement, that means a new mobo, and chances are that your existing RAM won't work, it's a toss up whether your CPU will work depending on the socket. Pretty quickly it's a wholesale replacement not a cost effective upgrade.

I look forward to the day when a lot of W10 machines are got rid of by people because they wont run W11. In other words, all those machines that are perfectly capable of running Linux. I'll need to grab some of them, unless most of these people wake up to the scandalous fact that Microsoft is intent on filling landfill, of course. So much for their "green" credentials.

It isn't just apathy, it is active avoidance. My machine is more than capable of running Windows 11. It even installed it at one point but I caught it in time and changed back to Windows 10 and promptly disabled the TPM feature in its BIOS.

I don't want Windows 11. It doesn't offer anything that Windows 10 does except additional finger exercise clicking through additional options to get all the features I need on the context menu. (I know a reg hack will fix this for now but why should I have to go to that trouble). It is even inconsistent about simple things like the copy / cut and paste icons in those context menus. Sometimes they are above the main list and other times below. Add in the advertising, telemetry, AI bloat and the rest and I can see no reason at all for running Windows 11 and plenty of reasons to avoid it.

W11 - A new task bar and a lot more spying. Also a significant cost upgrading several machines.

W10 - When end of life I will no longer get random updates and reboots. Life will be peaceful again.

I'm staying on W10 :)

There is not enough space to list all that is wrong with W11. It is a POS pure and simple.

Avoid at all costs.

There was (operative word) one W11 system in my family. I upgraded as the user was giving birth. Two lovely girls and one bastard PC.

The new Mum said, 'leave it'.

Nine months later I got the call... 'When are you coming to put Linux on my PC?" It was driving her mad.

That lovely lady was brought up on Windows and even worked for MS in the UK for a while as a developer.

If she won't touch it with a 400ft barge pole then there can't be MUCH right with it.

My grandkids are about to reach the terrible two's and I love them to bits. W11 is not allowed in our family.