Veeam debuts its Proxmox backup tool – and reveals outfit using it to quit VMware
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2024/09/02/veeam_proxmox_support_arrives/
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Proxmox support arrived last week in the form of Veeam Backup & Replication 12.2. As detailed in a [1]What's New? [PDF] file, the data protection tool can now create immutable backups of VMs managed by Proxmox, and store them on-prem or in the cloud.
The tool also allows VMs from other virtualization platforms – including VMware's vSphere, Microsoft Hyper-V, Nutanix AHV, or even the Azure and AWS clouds – to be restored into Proxmox. Physical server backups can do likewise.
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Veeam's [3]announcement of the release shows why it matters by quoting a chap named James Westendorf – the director of technical services at Lake Land College, a modestly-sized university in the US state of Illinois.
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"With the recent changes at VMware, we were forced to re-evaluate which hypervisor to choose for our datacenter – a situation nobody wants to be in," reads Westendorf's canned quote. It continues that the new Veeam release will help "as we look forward to being able to choose to move to Proxmox" and "provide us with the peace of mind we need during these tumultuous times."
Westendorf's remarks probably refer to two things – one of which is that it is impossible for a serious IT operation to adopt a server virtualization platform that lacks robust backup tools tuned to its peculiarities. With Veeam supporting Proxmox, the open source suite becomes easier to consider. The other is probably VMware by Broadcom's new licenses, which require subscriptions, start at 16 cores, and bundle multiple products with support.
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Analysts [7]tell The Register the licenses mean most VMware customers pay more. VMware insists its new offerings represent better value once deployed, and that the vSphere Foundation bundle of compute and storage virtualization, plus management tools, is ideal for those who focus on server virtualization. Lake Land College clearly disagrees, joining the likes of [8]Geico , [9]Computershare , and [10]Boyd Gaming as confirmed VMware quitters.
[11]VMware sends vSphere 7 into extra time by extending support for six months
[12]Meet the Proxinator: A hyperbox that puts SATA at the heart of VMware migrations
[13]VMware prepping unified SDK for its core hybrid cloud products
[14]Cisco dumps its Hyperflex hyperconverged infrastructure
Veeam's update also improved support for another VMware rival – Nutanix's AHV – by integrating it with the Prism Central management tool and improving automation. The backup software can also use multiple network adapters, which should come in handy in larger environments. Again, the availability of such tooling for AHV makes Nutanix's wares a more attractive VMware alternative.
Broadcom CEO Hock Tan last week [15]claimed his plan to sell software bundles is going so well that 85 percent of sales revenue is from VMware's flagship Cloud Foundation suite. That's a nice number, but far from a full view of how VMware is traveling on his watch. More will be revealed on Thursday when Broadcom announces its quarterly results. The Register will tune in and bring you the news. ®
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[1] https://www.veeam.com/veeam_backup_12_2_whats_new_wn.pdf
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[3] https://www.veeam.com/company/press-release/new-veeam-data-platform-v12-2-extends-1-data-resilience-to-more-platforms-and-applications.html
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[7] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/26/vmware_explore_preview/
[8] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/28/geico_vmware_openstack_migration/
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/22/computershare_vm_migration_project/
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/21/nutanix_vmware_migrations/
[11] https://www.theregister.com/2024/07/24/vsphere_7_eos_date_extended/
[12] https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/13/45drives_proxmox_proxinator/
[13] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/26/vmware_vcf_unified_sdk/
[14] https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/14/cisco_discontinues_hyperflex_hci/
[15] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/29/hock_tan_vmware_private_cloud/
[16] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Plenty of others are in the same position.
After 3 years, VMware could have a serious problem.
All I will base the following on is 3 years of using it at home on two servers (running 24/7 with various different applications):
Proxmox works. VMware are in trouble.
been using it in production for nearly 3 years running our private cloud.
7 Servers, 480 cores, 15TiB ram and 1.8 PiB of storage all powered by proxmox only.
We have zero doubts about the capabilities of ProxMox, it's the support we're not too sure on vs. Nutanix's offerings.
Proxmox Backup Server...
The article forgot to mention it - Proxmox’s own tool. I use it for my Proxmox HomeLab, and it works, of course. It can even run as a VM itself, which is how I trialled it.
Sadly it doesn’t do backing up of ESXi VMs and restoring them to PVE , which would have been REALLY useful when I switched from VMware to Proxmox! It also can’t backup my Windows office PC; I use the free version of Veeam for that.
I'm a Linux noob and even I managed to use an old Dell Precision T3420 + Proxmox+OPNSense+Adguard to replace my near EOL Asus router for a more capable and secure router and then just use the Asus router as an AP as it's wifi is more than enough. Next is to migrate my two Windows Severs boxes. Added advantage, I'm starting to learn Linux which I wouldn't have done if I stuck to Windows.
its really good in a sme setting where its my defacto goto virtualization platform for my sme customers
though no need for veam... proxmox backup server itself is a really good backup system, it really dedupes the data down and backups are super fast
i even run my pbs as a virtual proxmox vm instead of bare metal as it makes disaster recovery of the pbs itself a breeze
its all made possible with the pbs datastore existing on a nfs share (not on the pbs itself) on an entry level synology nas with mirrored drives and rsync of the shared nfs folder elsewhere for that extra layer of backup... can also put a seconday synology nas at the directors house and keep them synced
ps smaller sme customers are usually cash strapped... above scenario is perfect with 4/5 older servers and second hand synology's instead of having to get them to buy new, some times that the only way i can convince them to pay decently for my time!
pps the easy peasy lemon squeezy immutability option of snapshots of shared folders on synology is a real sleep easy solution when thinking about ransome ware infecting your customers data and getting that dreaded call :)
Proxmox is now undergoing tests in order to establish if it's ready or not as our next platform...
We truly hope that it is Enterprise ready.. We have 3 years, due to recent purchases and bean counting necessities, before us so that's gives us plenty of time.