Elon Musk claims live Trump interview on X derailed by DDoS
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2024/08/13/trump_musk_livestream_ddos_delay/
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The interview was hosted in an X Space – the service's platform that allows live-streamed audio content.
"We tested the system with eight million concurrent listeners earlier today," Musk [1]Xeeted ahead of the event. But as the scheduled start ran late, he [2]alleged : "There appears to be a massive DDoS attack on 𝕏. Working on shutting it down. Worst case, we will proceed with a smaller number of live listeners and post the conversation later."
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The Register tuned into the event a few minutes after its planned start and was offered elevator music and a notification the event would soon be underway.
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The interview commenced some 40 minutes after its advertised time. Live audience statistics reported 1.1 to 1.3 million attendees during the portions of the event The Register observed – although during the stream Trump claimed that the event had an audience of 60 million or more, exceeding targets of 25 million.
The Register has found no evidence of a denial of service attack directed at X. Check Point Software's [6]live cyber threat map does not record unusual levels of activity at the time of writing. NetScout's [7]real-time DDoS map recorded only small attacks on the US.
[8]Twitter tells advertisers to go fsck themselves, now sues them for fscking the fsck off
[9]Twitter grew an incredible '1.6%' since Musk's $44B takeover. Amazing. Wow
[10]Twitter's lawsuit against anti-hate-speech crusaders gets SLAPPed out of court
[11]Under-fire Elon Musk urged to get a grip on X and reality – or resign
If a DDoS was indeed the reason for the delayed start of the event, it appears not to have impacted the rest of X's operations – there were plenty of posts commenting on the problems with the Space occupied by the interview. And Musk was tweeting from the very network said to be under attack.
This is not the first time an X-hosted political event has struggled. In May 2023, would-be Republican presidential candidate Ron DeSantis's livestreamed campaign launch [12]crashed and featured regular unplanned silences.
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The Trump interview, once it got going, featured rhetoric and verbiage that will be familiar to followers of both participants.
Trump criticized the policies of the Biden administration, described his political opponents as dangerous radicals, warned of dire consequences for the United States if he is not elected, and made some baffling references to matters such as "nuclear warming."
The two men both bemoaned over-regulation as a handbrake on business and innovation, and called for reform. They found common ground on the issue of rapid inter-city rapid transport infrastructure. Trump touted trains, Musk preferred traffic tunnels.
Europe was watching One person intently interested in the Musk/Trump chat was European Commissioner Thierry Breton, who used X to [14]share a letter sent to Musk and X CEO Linda Yaccarino reminding the duo of laws that require designated social media platforms to moderate some content. Breton's letter referred to recent social unrest in the UK that is felt to have been sparked by misinformation posted to X.
Yaccarino [15]described Breton's letter as "an unprecedented attempt to stretch a law intended to apply in Europe to political activities in the US. It also patronizes European citizens, suggesting they are incapable of listening to a conversation and drawing their own conclusions."
The conversation occasionally grazed on tech, with Trump worrying that AI's potential may not be realized due to current energy policy that prioritizes renewable sources.
"AI requires twice as much energy as the US already produces," Trump claimed. "You are going to need tremendous electricity, almost double what we produce for the country if you can believe it."
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Musk opined that solar generation will become the major source of energy in the US. The tycoon also stated that as Tesla makes electric cars and that he's really into solar power, he should not be assumed to hold right wing political views.
The social media, automotive, rocketry, brain implant, AI, tunneling, tequila, and flamethrower entrepreneur also told listeners that Tesla cars are designed to help buyers go green without compromise.
"We do not believe caring for the environment should mean you should suffer," he noted, adding that cars should be "sexy."
He pointed out that Tesla makes models named S, 3, X, and Y – which sort of spells "SEXY."
"That's the most expensive joke out there," Musk mused.
But maybe not as darkly funny – or expensive – as spending $44 billion on a social media platform that struggles to handle marquee events, [17]picks fights with advertisers, and allegedly [18]ignores at least some financial obligations to staff. ®
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[1] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1823153581882810650
[2] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1823152153445404990
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[6] https://threatmap.checkpoint.com/
[7] https://horizon.netscout.com/?filters=destination.country.US
[8] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/06/twitter_rumble_wfa_musk/
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2024/07/09/x_user_base_twitter/
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/25/musk_lawsuit_hate_speech/
[11] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/07/elon_musk_chamber_progress/
[12] https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/25/twitter_spaces_ron_desantis/
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[14] https://twitter.com/ThierryBreton/status/1823033048109367549
[15] https://twitter.com/lindayaX/status/1823052643733823640
[16] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_offprem/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33Zrsux4OiT@KVJKVIkGDS@gAAAEY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
[17] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/06/twitter_rumble_wfa_musk/
[18] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/12/twitters_former_chairman_sues_x/
[19] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Shelf life
‘Trump 2024’ is not a political slogan. It’s an expiration date.
Re: Shelf life
Even a decisive loss at the next election will not get rid of him.
Re: Shelf life
If people would ignore him for long enough, he would set himself on fire just to get the attention.
tragically, they keep giving him positions where he can burn something valuable instead.
Re: Shelf life
‘Trump 2024’ is not a political slogan. It’s an expiration date.
Hopefully Project 2025 isn't America's.
DDoS = Dumping Demented, Obnoxious Solipsists?
A case of discarding the Trump-Vance krumpers for the three-four Harris-Waltz. :)
Space Karen as Secretary of (altered?) State is one leg of the trousers of time that I definitely don't wish to dress on.
Greatest cutter
“I’d love it for you. You’re the greatest cutter,"
Trump on the “government efficiency commission” that Musk has mooted.
Unless I am mistaken, "Cutter" is also a term associated with the distribution of... Bolivian marching powder
Re: Greatest cutter
Can also be applied to people who self harm.
Tesla's are anything but S3XY
They are bland, boring and tbh shoddily built. i.e. Just like almost all other US made or designed cars. Luxury? ROFL.
Elon is clearly bored with Tesla and possibly even Space-X and wants a senior cabinet post should the USA be so stupid to elect Dithering Don as POTUS in November.
Project 2025 will make it very hard for Tesla to continue in business in the USA.
Elon and Trump... A marriage made in the depths of hades.
Re: Tesla's are anything but S3XY
Project 2025 will make it very hard for Tesla to continue in business in the USA.
I watched a [1]LegalEagle video where they looked at the Project 2025 manifesto. Oh. My. God. The poeple who wrote Project 2025 eriously have learned nothing from 20th century history.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQcL0t73O5Y
Re: Tesla's are anything but S3XY
"The people who wrote Project 2025 seriously have learned nothing from 20th century history."
There is no need for them to learn about that century.
If you look at their ideas a little closer, you'll see they want to live in the 19th century, preferably before 1860. They even love the flags and banners from that time.
Re: Tesla's are anything but S3XY
Tesla struggling to do business everywhere is not a barrier to Musk getting paid.
I just looked up Project 2025. If I believed in heaven that would be an excellent bunch of reasons for me to deliberately fail the immigration requirements.
It's understandable to assume it's a DDoS
Twitter is not used to having so many users anymore
It's understandable to _pretend_ it's a DDoS
Sounds better than admitting you fired too many employees with a clue ...
Re: It's understandable to assume it's a DDoS
The Register tuned into the event a few minutes after its planned start and was offered elevator music
My bullshit filter automatically plays elevator music in my head whenever Musk starts speaking. It's more coherent and never makes false promises of something being available 'in about two years'.
Is this even worth commenting on?
Hmmm..... No.
"Massive attack" you say?
Top band. "Teardrop" video was epic.
Interview.
Rambling nutjob rambles. TBF the Musky one hasn't really faced any serious interviews in his entire life AFAIK. A real interview about his past would make him very uncomfortable.
Clearly looking a) A job b) Some kind of "consultancy" gig IE how to get his hands on some choice USG owned assets at lowest possible cost.
What's worse than a madman at the helm of an important country?
Or company.
What's worse? Probably when they both get together.
My brain auto-translated that to "impotent cunt"
"Bungler in chief"
From Bryan Taylor Cohen on YT.
Remember he did Ron DeSantis roll out campaign on X-formerly-Twitter.
How well did that go?
Could it be? Musk is trolling all of them?
Is it still a DDoS if it comes from within?
The Register has found no evidence of a denial of service attack directed at X. Check Point Software's live cyber threat map does not record unusual levels of activity at the time of writing. NetScout's real-time DDoS map recorded only small attacks on the US.
Since there is no evidence of an outside DDoS, these reports don't count if the attack comes from within, especially if these fumbles are self inflicted.
>"We tested the system with eight million concurrent listeners earlier today," Musk Xcreted ahead of the event.
FTFY
Internal tests don't replicate the same thing, so I'm not sure I'd believe that.
It is funny that it reportedly peaked at 1.3 million listeners but Trump is claiming 60 million. He's so freaked out about Kamala's huge rally audiences he's resorted to making up ridiculous conspiracy theories about how no one is there and it is all "AI". The only one who has caught tinkering with rally photos is the Trump campaign - they released a photo showing Trump and the people directly behind him with the same guy in four different places! $1000 says Trump saw the photos, thought having open seats directly behind him was a bad look, and asked his staffers to fix it. The result was hilarious, and a great insight into how badly Trump's brain is broken.
It is because he is constantly waving at non-existent crowds when arriving/leaving anywhere, he assumes that the crowd waiting at the airport for Harris are also not there.
The crowd that produced no reflections on the shiny surface?
An aircraft fuselage is cylindrical, cylindrical mirrors barely reflect any image back.
The actual video footage shows the real crowd - and it was big and wildly enthusiastic.
There is absolutely no way at all in any circumstances that the Harris campaign could have faked/manipulated all of the hundreds of photos taken by several different people of the arrival and events.
I think we can agree that there were no real tests for 8 million, it was just stated to try and play down the problems.
Video bandwidth is expensive so I'd be interested in the peering arrangements they have in general and what they did here: Twitter isn't a big video platform and it wouldn't make sense to have long-standing arrangements. But that also makes it unsuitable for one-off live video broadcasts.
"He's so freaked out about Kamala's huge rally audiences he's resorted to making up ridiculous conspiracy theories about how no one is there and it is all "AI". The only one who has caught tinkering with rally photos is the Trump campaign -"
Always, always, assume that any accusation by Trump, or any Republican politician, is a confession of guilt.
Most of what the Trump campaign says these days is projection of the worst possible sort. It's all "well I do it so they must be too".
Interview?
You can't call this an interview. It was a chat with one of his backers.
Re: Interview?
I was thinking the same thing. It’s not that different to Rishi Sinai being asked “great questions” by Tory Council members posing as a factory workers.
Re: Interview?
"Sinai" courtesy my iPhone keyboard. Apols.
Re: Interview?
Or, in the interests of balance, former Labour politician Ed Balls interviewing current Labour politician Yvette Cooper (who happens to be his wife)
It was a chat with one of his backers.
Which one's which?
Elon wants to follow Kamala
Biden has done it, so why not Trump? Wouldn't that be epic if not only Biden steps down for Kamala, but Trump would do it for Elon, too?
Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala
Fortunately His Muskiness is not a natural born citizen of the USA so he can not be POTUS (unless they change the Constitution)
Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala
Or unless the Supremes change the definition of natual born citizen.
Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala
Or unless the Supremes change the definition of natual born citizen.
Murkier waters than one might have thought [1] Natural-born-citizen clause (United States) .
Australia cannot be too smug here as a few years ago our [2]Constitution's Section 44 (i) cut swathes of disqualifications of sitting representatives from both parties.
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause_(United_States)
[2] https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Senate/Practice_and_Procedure/Constitution/chapter1/Part_IV_-_Both_Houses_of_the_Parliament
Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala
Well I guess in some states in america a pizza is considered a vegetable and one of your five a day, anything is possible.
Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala
...unless they change the Constitution.
Musk is probably waiting to see if Trump get elected, as Trump has expressed a desire to "Terminate the Constitution."
Then Musk can run for whatever post he likes, apart for President or Grand Panjandrum or what ever President for Life Trump decides to call himself.
He won't call himself King even though he wants all the unaccountable power of an absolute monarch.
Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala
As usual, I don't think there is anything lost between these egomaniacs. Trump is interested in his own personal and dynastic power and would probably love to be able to nominate one of his children as a successor.
Re: Trump would do it for Elon, too?
The thing is Joe gave up the race because he realised he probably wouldn't win. Trump doesn't need to win, he has enough people in charge of vote counting to be able to claim he won however people vote.
Trump doing something for someone else? Yeah, you hold your breath and wait for that....
Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala
It's probably already too late for the paperwork in some states. Biden waited probably just as late as possible to make sure it could only be Kamala and that the Republicans wouldn't have the chance to replace Trump. Trump is older now that Biden was 4 years ago so that his age should be considered a risk. But we know he's never going to stand down of his own accord, no matter how the elections go: losing the presidential wouldn't be good for the Republicans, but they had been hoping for a clean sweep with Biden being considered bad for the other elections.
Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala
"Wouldn't that be epic if not only Biden steps down for Kamala, but Trump would do it for Elon, too?"
Actually, I do not think Elon wants to be PotUS. That is too dangerous a job and distracts from all the other interesting things he wants to do in life. Better to put someone there to take the heat and do the work for you.
But I was wondering. What are the chances that Trump will actually complete the full 4/8/12 years of his presidency? He is 78 now and not in the best of mental health, or health in general. An Article 25 application sometimes next year would do the trick.
So, a vote for Trump will probably be a vote for PotUS Vance in the end. And Vance was dropped in that VP post by this pall of Elon, Peter Thiel.
A nice remake of "The Manchurian Candidate", now running as "The Hillbilly Candidate".
Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala
"not in the best of mental health"
That didn't stop him last time.
Don’t cross the dumb (streams)
Nature abhors a vacuum
Wait! What?
"We tested the system with eight million concurrent listeners earlier today,"
Xitter has testers?
Re: Wait! What?
It is possible that there are one or two testers left but certainly not eight million. I cannot imagine Musk having the foresight to ask for a test in advance. I can easily imagine the tantrum when Musk found out his voice was not broadcast to the entire planet. When Musk started screaming how would you have answered?
A) It worked fine in a test this morning with 8 million users.
B) Why haven't I been paid for the last three months?
C) We don't actually have any test software. We just make up some random excuse when it breaks.
D) Ask https://excuses.ai/ for an excuse for a failed X Space broadcast:
Subject: Explanation for Failed Space Broadcast
Dear Mr. Musk,
I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to provide an explanation for the recent failure of our space broadcast project. Unfortunately, we encountered unforeseen technical difficulties that ultimately led to the unsuccessful broadcast.
One of the primary reasons for the failure was a malfunction in the satellite communication system. This system is crucial for transmitting signals between the spacecraft and the broadcasting station on Earth. During the pre-launch testing phase, we noticed irregularities in the communication signals, but due to time constraints, we were unable to address the issue before the scheduled
Re: "earlier today"
You don't expect to put together a serious load test and then run it on the same day of your big broadcast. More likely he ordered someone to do it and the testers did something that resembled one to keep him quiet. As proved by the fact that a million real users crashed the site. I presume there will be many more ex-X employees by lunchtime today.
Hilariously, the episode made Musk look like a fool for the technical fuck up, then made both of them look like fools when the "interview" eventually became available.
Making an arse out of... wait what did you say?
The tycoon also stated that as Tesla makes electric cars and that he's really into solar power, he should not be assumed to hold right wing political views. Fortunately we don't have to assume because you won't stop telling us .