Twitter tells advertisers to go fsck themselves, now sues them for fscking the fsck off
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The complaint, filed in a federal district court in northern Texas, [1]alleges [PDF] that the federation and individual advertisers, including CVS, Mars, and Unilever, unlawfully colluded in deciding to no longer book ad space on the Elon Musk-run site.
Twitter – now known as X, and claims to be popular with more than 500 million active users a month – reckons the corporations' boycott breaks US antitrust law.
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"The defendants conspired, along with dozens of non-defendant co-conspirators, to collectively withhold billions of dollars in advertising revenue from Twitter," the lawsuit states, which is demanding trebled compensatory damages from lost revenue and court orders to ban such practices in the future.
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The legal action centers on the federation's Global Alliance for Responsible Media (GARM) body, and specifically its so-called brand safety standards. Websites and apps must comply with those corp-friendly rules to get ad bookings from federation members, according to X. These requirements cover things like ensuring adverts aren't seen next to or are associated with hate speech, violent extremism, and child exploitation.
Twitter was compliant with these standards, though after it was bought by Musk in October 2022, GARM took a much tougher line against the biz, it's claimed. Indeed, by November that year, brands were [5]being advised to give the social network a wide berth as, amid what appeared to be an uptick of abuse by trolls under the site's new anti-woke management, Twitter was deemed to no longer be a "safe" place for businesses to be associated with.
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According to the lawsuit, the advertising federation voiced concerns about the social network's ability or willingness to stick to the brand safety requirements, which X argues was a way to get advertisers to pull out of the site without the trade body explicitly telling them to.
The federation "triggered the boycott of Twitter through public statements of its concerns with Twitter’s continued compliance with the GARM Brand Safety Standards," as the lawsuit put it, adding X is upset the industry body tried to force the social network to follow the rules. The global federation "organized an advertiser boycott of Twitter through GARM, with the goal of coercing Twitter to comply with the GARM Brand Safety Standards to the satisfaction of GARM," it was claimed.
Senior Twitter execs, including Musk, met GARM reps in November and December 2022 and agreed to make changes to the platform. The Musketeers claim that, despite the biz now complying with GARM's requirements "99 percent" of the time, two years on the boycott remains in place.
More problems for Musk
One of the largest pharmacy chains in Europe, Germany-based Rossmann, has announced it will buy no more Tesla vehicles for its fleet because of Elon Musk's support for US presidential candidate Donald Trump.
"Elon Musk makes no secret of his support for Donald Trump. Trump has repeatedly described climate change as a hoax - this attitude is in stark contrast to Tesla's mission to contribute to environmental protection through the production of electric cars," [7]said Raoul Roßmann, spokesman for the chain's management.
According to [8]German media Rossmann has a fleet of about 800 vehicles, 34 of them are Teslas. The chain says it will keep its Muskmobiles to avoid wasting resources but won't buy any more.
Naturally, Xitter is also treating this walk-out by advertisers as a free speech issue. Businesses exercising their free speech rights of where they spread their marketing message is bad, but other speech is essential, is one way to interpret this lawsuit.
"People are hurt when the marketplace of ideas is undermined and some viewpoints are not funded over others as part of an illegal boycott. This behavior is a stain on a great industry, and cannot be allowed to continue," [9]said X CEO Linda Yaccarino.
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"To those who broke the law, we say enough is enough. We are compelled to seek justice for the harm that has been done by these and potentially additional defendants, depending what the legal process reveals."
Yaccarino cited on X an interim committee staff report into GARM from the US House Judiciary Committee, which [11]concluded [PDF] the alliance's operation "is likely illegal under the antitrust laws and threatens fundamental American freedoms.” The House met GARM executives and subpoenaed emails for the report.
"We tried being nice for two years and got nothing but empty words," X CEO Elon Musk [12]added on Tuesday. "Now, it is war."
[13]X boss Elon Musk tries to make nice with world at ad biz conference
[14]Twitter grew an incredible '1.6%' since Musk's $44B takeover. Amazing. Wow
[15]Twitter's lawsuit against anti-hate-speech crusaders gets SLAPPed out of court
[16]X hiring 100 content cops in bid to tame Wild West of online safety
So far the lawsuit offers six pieces of evidence, which are mainly internal emails between GARM members and advertising agencies. According to Yaccarino these show that the group was advising clients which platforms to advertise on in a collusive fashion, thus allegedly breaking antitrust laws.
Exhibit F, for example, covers a discussion from Danish energy giant Orsted asking a member of the GARM team if it was still safe to advertise on Elon's site, adding: "Based on your recommendations, we have stopped all paid advertisements."
A GARM staffer responds: "I would like to clarify that neither GARM, nor WFA, have ever made any recommendation, or proposed any action, in relation to advertiser investments on Twitter. Media investment decisions are completely within the sphere of each member and subject to their own discretion," adding that Twitter had made some improvements to content moderation to be more advertiser friendly.
Michigan probes Musk-backed PAC website that weirdly tried and failed to help register people to vote [17]READ MORE
Another exhibit contains a similar conversation with a Coca-Cola executive seeking advice about whether to advertise on Spotify in light of comments podcaster Joe Rogan made on the platform. One email thread between GARM execs has them celebrating Meta adding new content moderation tools, and how to explain these to the executive committee.
"We need to get the ExecCo to understand that we're operating with a Roosevelt doctrine of 'speaking softly and carrying a big stick,'" it reads.
Video-hosting site Rumble, a big hit among conservative and alt-right folk, says it's also bringing similar antitrust legal action against advertisers after ads were pulled from its platform.
Ever since Musk took over Twitter and fired the majority of its staff, let previously banned users back on, and banged on about things like the "woke mind virus," big-name brands have been wary of using the platform to push their wares. This wasn't helped last year when Musk, on stage at a conference, [18]told advertisers to "go fuck themselves," although he has since tried to [19]build bridges .
The federation did not have comment at time of going to press. ®
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[1] https://regmedia.co.uk/2024/08/06/pacer_x_versus_advertisers.pdf
[2] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2ZrLxaLabTtlU84sxn3OfuQAAAJg&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0
[3] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44ZrLxaLabTtlU84sxn3OfuQAAAJg&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
[4] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33ZrLxaLabTtlU84sxn3OfuQAAAJg&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
[5] https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/02/advertisers_twitter_concerns/
[6] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44ZrLxaLabTtlU84sxn3OfuQAAAJg&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
[7] https://unternehmen.rossmann.de/presse/pressemeldung/rossmann-kauft-keinen-tesla-mehr.html
[8] https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersachsen/hannover_weser-leinegebiet/Rossmann-will-kuenftig-keine-Tesla-Autos-mehr-kaufen,aktuellhannover16820.html
[9] https://x.com/lindayaX/status/1820838134470328676
[10] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33ZrLxaLabTtlU84sxn3OfuQAAAJg&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
[11] https://dw-wp-production.imgix.net/2024/07/2024-07-10-GARMs-Harm-How-the-Worlds-Biggest-Brands-Seek-to-Control-Online-Speech.pdf
[12] https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1820849358402670800
[13] https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/20/x_boss_elon_musk_ad_talk/
[14] https://www.theregister.com/2024/07/09/x_user_base_twitter/
[15] https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/25/musk_lawsuit_hate_speech/
[16] https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/29/x_moderation_hiring/
[17] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/05/michigan_election_officials_probe_website/
[18] https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/30/musk_murders_x/
[19] https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/20/x_boss_elon_musk_ad_talk/
[20] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Re: Well, I never would have foreseen this outcome
A genius … and a very stable genius at that!
Re: Well, I never would have foreseen this outcome
“Nobody has ever called me weird. I’m a lot of things, but weird I’m not.”
The only possible explanation for Twitler’s current madness is that he must be high as a fucking kite.
"And the worms ate into his brain". Must be catching.
"Please corporate-friendly Texas judge, force these other companies to buy things from us!"
Yes I know in this case both sides would be considered corporate but one side is advocating for more corporate power and suppression of others' freedom, while the other side is exercising their actual free speech rights and their right to not be bullied.
Wait a moment, was this not the country of "letting the market decide"?
I knew Musk was getting more and more delusional (seems to be a common problem, his mate Trump left the rails years ago), but suing people for having the temerity of spending their advertising dollars on a less idiotic audience means the man ought to be shipped to Mars as soon as a rocket is available because he's clearly gone extraterrestrial. Or nuts, take your pick.
It's a shame it takes so much effort to declare someone a vexations litigant, because this stunt deserves it.
Moron.
Good luck with that...
...you two-faced, nazi-sympathising, "free-speech-abolutist"-so-long-as-you-agree-with-me, one-way-pseudo-libertarian, free-market-for-me-but-not-for-thee, bullshitting, double-standards-spewing, hypocritical manchild prick.
I wouldn't limit his faced-ness to two - more like a bunch of silly putty
that seems to droop from the left or right. Probably influenced by whatever cocktail of drugs the 'loon consumed in the last hour or so.
Elon Musk: menace to democracy :o
[1]@EdwardGLuce : “ Can't say this enough; Elon Musk's menace to democracy is intolerable. He's using the largest & most influential platform in the democratic world to stoke racial conflict and civil breakdown - in his own posts & what X promotes. Democracies can no longer ignore this. ”
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Get with the Blob, Elon and all your legal and financial woes will evaporate.
[1] https://twitter.com/EdwardGLuce/status/1820582219028615235
curious
Never having used Twitter, given musk controls it and Tesla, are there Tesla ads shown around "objectional" content on Twitter? I think I saw musk say Tesla would spend a bunch on ads there but haven't heard of incidents with that brand unlike other brands.
More curious if he would even care whether or not Tesla's ads show up alongside such content.
Re: curious
He's so publicly associated with Tesla's brand that putting Tesla ads next to Nazi posts would be redundant.
It is war
>> "We tried being nice for two years and got nothing but empty words," X CEO Elon Musk added on Tuesday. "Now, it is war."
I don't want my brand being associated with war. You have quite literally pushed me away. That is only the latest egregious example, there are plenty of others.
Advertisers (customers) only spend out when they think they might see a return on their investment. X has a certain mindset and approach that does not suit everyone. Even though journos still seem enamoured of the platform, that seems to be inertia. If I was deploying serious advertising cash, X would not be top of my list unless I really wanted to look edgy to the point of nigh on criminality.
Re: It is war
And it could very well approach criminality in some cases (at least being a civil legal issue). The people running those companies have a legal duty to their shareholders to spend the money wisely and to make the company look good and be successful, which means NOT being associated with horrible things like Nazis and racism anti-trans stuff. If they continue advertising in places that make them associated with that stuff, their shareholders can take action.
I can't imagine many companies I've worked with wanting to be associated with a lot of content on twitter, there are no laws that say they have to advertise next to nazi incels.
Play stupid games…
Win stupid prizes. Melon has essentially proclaimed free speech for me but no for thee. A prime example of the tool not getting it. What he really wants is his own personal echo chamber to bounce his idiot ideals around in.
"This behavior is a stain on a great industry, and cannot be allowed to continue"
So, everything about the ad industry is great, apart from the bit that doesn't want to be associated with racist hate which isn't?
It's an interesting take. If they win, presumably I can then sue Tesla for not advertising on a website I might decide to set up, because not paying me money to run ads next to "Elon Musk is a drug addled fool" articles also cannot be allowed to continue.
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For those for whom Musk is still their idol..
.. maybe [1]this or [2]this may help.
But probably not, the cult roots deep.
[1] https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2024/08/06/good-god-i-pray-that-my-children-like-me-a-little-bit/
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnmDU_Xb8hQ&list=PLFy4fB4R8PG6st7yk-17Vs8WZYu0fQrg1
Freedom of Speech...
surely encompasses the choice not to speak.
The [1]5 th Amendment to the US Constitution preserves the right to silence where self incrimination is involved - a right that the Emperor of Mongo seemingly wishes to forgo.
"... tried being nice for two years and got nothing but empty words," ... "Now, it is war." Huh? Nice? Empty words? Sounds like Space Karen has mistaken a mirror for a window. Too much Special-K?
" Woke mind virus " and this " failed to launch " hasn't got some nasty MAGA brain eating prion disease?
Unlike Theodore Rooseveldt, Musk et al. have but a small stick but constantly screech rather loudly about perceived infringements of their delusional "rights."
I imagine Teddy would have personally horsewhipped the whole sorry crew - his contemporary robber barons were the real deal and not our half arsed wannabes.
[1] https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-5/
Buy the guy a radioactive atoll somewhere
He can set up as supreme leader and host other such morons as Trump and Putin.
Advertise?
I would even let my dog piss on the guy!
Weird
Tim Walz became viral because he called t-Rump and Vance 'Weird'. That earned him a vice-pres role.
I'd say Musk is weird.
First you make a point of telling advertisers, publicly, to F-off, and then you sue them when they do.
The reason they're leaving, is you Let that sink in. You brought your own brand of Right-Wing free speech to Twatter, and you publicly insulted the people who pay the bill$ ~ and now you're taking them to court and tossing Sue-balls because they're not advertising with you. How is that not "WEIRD"?
Re: Weird
It would be great for them to have their day in court and stand up and say:
"Mr Musk told us to F-off, so we did'.
"Anything else"
"No Your Honour, that's it for us"
Re: Weird
What was he expecting as an answer? "How shall we fuck off, O lord?"
Re: Weird
...made worse that 90% of the ads on twitter are scam ads. People have learnt to ignore them even if they do otherwise look interesting.
How is that helpful for legitimate advertiser's?
Would be nice to see GARM wiped out with lawsuits. The whole point to the group is to silence anyone who doesn't think like they do. If you're not a hardcore leftist, they want to run you out of business.
Would that be your totally unbiased opinion, or do you just want to excuse bigotry and hate?
Not weird at all.....
I wonder how Tesla/etcetera would have done without Musk.
In contrast, a Steve Jobs was able to present Apple's best face, and craft a story that successively appealed to the original base ( birkinstocks ) and grow through hipster dufi, cognizenti then mainstream.
Whatever Musk has to offer, it isn't that.
So does Musk limit or enhance Tesla/etc ?
He Doesn't Expect Any Response
By now, he's simply Performance Art.
Re: He Doesn't Expect Any Response
I saw on the news that Donald Plump tried to tell the judge to overturn his conviction, because Harris said that she’s the prosecutor and he’s the felon, and he doesn’t like that, he wants to be the prosecutor and Harris is the felon, and I think the judge didn’t agree with the proposal (for whatever reason, who knows).
A distraction
A distraction to pretend that AD revenue is really something Twitter relies on, when you simply have to look at the backers and the content.
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[3]https://bylinetimes.com/2022/11/07/musks-twitter-buy-makes-no-sense-unless-its-part-of-something-bigger/
[1] https://bylinetimes.com/2022/11/07/musks-twitter-buy-makes-no-sense-unless-its-part-of-something-bigger/
[2] https://bylinetimes.com/2022/11/07/musks-twitter-buy-makes-no-sense-unless-its-part-of-something-bigger/
[3] https://bylinetimes.com/2022/11/07/musks-twitter-buy-makes-no-sense-unless-its-part-of-something-bigger/
I told my NAS to go fsck
Yeah the RAID is like 80% full and my poor little NAS brain took nearly a week to juggle all that content before concluding, “file system check seems ok.”
Moral: if your equipment is a dumb fsck-er, expect dumb fsck-ups!
Well, I never would have foreseen this outcome
Such weird behavior from an otherwise stable and sensible human being.