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Tesla asks customers to stop being wet blankets about chargers

(2024/07/29)


Tesla has asked owners to stop wrapping wet towels around handles to speed up the recharging process, warning that this can damage its Supercharger stalls.

Responding to a story posted by Inside EVs on X in May that claimed the trick worked, Tesla [1]said placing a wet cloth over Supercharger recharging kit while juicing up "does not increase charging rates," and risks damaging cables because it fools temperature sensors into thinking the charger is cooler than it really is.

"Please refrain from doing this so our systems can run correctly, and true charging issues can be detected," Tesla's charging account said on X.

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Kyle Conner, founder of EV media network Out of Spec Studios, [3]said in a recent podcast episode that, contrary to what Tesla was saying, the wet rag trick has been a reliable way to reduce charge times for more than seven years.

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The method has to do with external temperature sensors on Tesla supercharging handles that are designed to decrease charging wattage to prevent people from burning their hands, which Conner said have never worked very well. By wrapping a wet towel around the charging handle, people not only avoided getting burned but also noticed a corresponding increase in charging amperage.

​​"Thermals on Tesla superchargers are terrible in the summertime," Conner said on the podcast episode.

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That all changed around the beginning of June, when Conner suspected Tesla made changes to its charging logic to stop the wet rag trick from working.

"Tesla introduced some logic, I think rightly so, to try to stop the wet rag situation," Conner said of the update. After some recent testing of the method (which he reiterated several times during the discussion that Out of Spec doesn't endorse), Conner noted a wet rag on the handle still increased charging amperage and sped the process up, but with what seemed to be an artificial cap.

"Tesla must have logic to realize there's no feasible way the temperature sensor in the handle would cool off that quickly," Conner suspects.

How about building chargers that don't overheat instead?

"I'm glad they put a stop to [the rag trick]," Conner opined during the podcast, but that doesn't mean he thinks Tesla is entirely in the right here. "They should come up with a connector that doesn't overheat," he added.

Conner said that the wet rag trick, combined with the fact that Tesla chargers continue to have heating issues despite the addition of liquid-cooled cables in newer Superchargers, means Elon Musk's car company might have engineered itself into a corner.

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Based on his reckoning, "Tesla doesn't know how to make, or at least is unwilling to install, a connector that can handle consistent high-current speeds," Conner said. Compared to other makes of public charging stations, "Superchargers seem to be the most temperature-sensitive of the bunch."

We've asked the Out of Spec team for additional information.

[8]Musk deflects sluggish Tesla car sales with Optimus optimism

[9]How low can you go: Tesla's US market share dips below 50% for the first time

[10]American interest in electric vehicles short circuits for first time in four years

[11]Tesla's tight grip on repairs sparks courtroom showdown

Whether Tesla will be able to address its super-heated Supercharger issue could be further imperiled by the fact that Tesla reportedly [12]laid off its entire Supercharger team in May, despite the company's charging port becoming the [13]de facto US standard last year.

The decision to fire the entire Supercharger team in May was [14]allegedly due to Musk's dissatisfaction with team leader Rebecca Tinucci, who told the billionaire she couldn't lay off additional team members without undermining Tesla's charging business. Responsibility for Tesla's charging network has since been given to the company's energy team responsible for selling Tesla's [15]solar panels and [16]Powerwall home energy storage products.

So far it looks like the new Supercharger team has done less to roll out [17]improved charging infrastructure , and is focused more on closing loopholes. We've asked Tesla to comment. ®

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[1] https://twitter.com/TeslaCharging/status/1816284411425673578

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[8] https://www.theregister.com/2024/07/24/tesla_q2_2024/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2024/07/10/tesla_electric_car_sales/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/28/us_ev_survey/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/20/tesla_right_to_repair/

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/07/tesla_layoffs_continue/

[13] https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/28/sae_approves_standard_tesla_charger/

[14] https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/inside-story-elon-musks-mass-firings-tesla-supercharger-staff-2024-05-15/

[15] https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/06/sec_tesla_investigation/

[16] https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/18/tesla_expands_powerwalltogrid_program/

[17] https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/15/ev_charging_infrastructure_sandia/

[18] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



GloriousVictoryForThePeople

> "Tesla doesn't know how to make, or at least is unwilling to install, a connector that can handle consistent high-current speeds," Conner said.

The great news is that Tesla is a company that takes shared responsibility seriously - Elon has fired the person responsible. And everyone else.

Someone has been reading business books from that famous thought leader Ghengis Khan.

We've asked Tesla to comment. ®

cyberdemon

And no doubt received the usual "poop emoji" response from Xitler's PR-bot

I wonder how much of this is due to high ambient temperatures, and how much is due to connector wear / dirty contacts. If it's the former, then some extra heatsinking / evaporative cooling in the form of a wet towel will genuinely help, but if it's the latter, then their chargers and/or cars have a more fundamental issue

Tbh, charging a 100kWh battery at 350kW is asking for all sorts of trouble

Wet blankets

Pascal Monett

Because mixing humidity with electricity has never posed any problem whatsoever . . .

Re: Wet blankets

cyberdemon

Well, I should hope that the charging plug/socket is suitably sealed, otherwise you couldn't charge in the rain, and that would be ridiculous...

[1]Oh wait..

[1] https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/20/cybertruck_car_wash_mode/

They'll fix their chargers...

The Man Who Fell To Earth

Right after they get the FDS working. Elon says it should be only a few weeks. Trust him. Have he ever lied to you before?

Doctor Syntax

"So far it looks like the new Supercharger team has done less to roll out improved charging infrastructure"

Makes sense. The car sales are falling off. Fewer cars need fewer chargers. Cause and effect at work one way or the other.

A Non e-mouse

Didn't Space Karen fire them all?

And then have to re-hire some of them.

vtcodger

"Fewer cars need fewer chargers"

Ahem ... Sales rate is the rate of increase in the fleet, not the ratio of chargers to vehicles. Unless Tesla die and are scrapped at a rate higher than the sales rate, the number of Teslae on the road would still be increasing --- albeit not so rapidly as in the past.

Ummmm?

heyrick

Shitloads of electricity.

Wet towels .

Uh-huh. Great idea. Carry on please, the gene pool is scheduled for a cleaning some day soon.

Re: Ummmm?

katrinab

If the chargers are dangerous around wet towels, then they are also dangerous when it is raining ...?

Money making opportunity

Fruit and Nutcase

For Tesla - offer the fanbois new charging cables that cost several multiples of what they cost today - just use a better insulator on the handle, and market them as utilising "oxygen free copper" that offers less resistance to the electrons

If that helps

DS999

Wouldn't it make sense to add a compressor to a charger and pump some coolant in the jacket around the cable?

Re: If that helps

Chloe Cresswell

"despite the addition of liquid-cooled cables in newer Superchargers, " Literally says they did in the article.

Raising pet electric eels is gaining a lot of current popularity.