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Founder of Indian ride-share biz Ola calls for 70-hour work week

(2024/07/09)


Indian tech entrepreneur Bhavish Aggarwal – founder of Ola Cabs, Ole Electric and AI unicorn Ola Krutrim – doubled down on support for 70-hour work weeks during an interview posted last Sunday.

Aggarwal [1]told [VIDEO] India outlet ANI News that he works 20 hours a day, seven days a week – toil he has also [2]previously boasted about on ex-Twitter.

"If you have honesty of purpose and if you have clarity of purpose, then you can have the resolve to take it in your stride," he reasoned.

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The ethos has previously been promoted by other Indian billionaires including [4]Infosys co-founder (and Rishi Sunak's father-in-law) Narayana Murthy.

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Aggarwal [7]xeeted back in October last year that he was in agreement with Murthy – an action he recalled saw him trolled on social media. On Sunday he asserted he didn't mind the backlash as he has "a very strong belief that a generation will have to do penance."

"The younger generation today wants a little bit off – I don't agree with this work life balance concept," argued Aggarwal, who described clocking off to enjoy life as "an outcome of Western thought process of the post-industrial era" – an era which he sees now as being replaced by an AI "techno future."

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Nobody appears to have asked Aggarwal if he'd be happy to ride with a driver working 70-hour weeks.

[9]India's Uber clone Ola Cabs hails ride out of the international market

[10]Ancient art of banning rideshare companies revived in India, this time on motorbikes

[11]Apple on track for quarter of all iPhones to be made in India by 2028

[12]Google goes shopping for Indian e-commerce dominance … at Walmart

The CEO appeared at the interview wearing a traditional kurta and looking surprisingly awake and willing to spend two hours spouting "thought leadership" instead of working.

Aggarwal is known for expressing controversial statements both on social media and in person. In May 2024, he made headlines by referring to the use of gender-neutral pronouns as a "Western illness" on both LinkedIn and his [13]Twitter account . Those claims ignited a backlash on social media, with many users labelling his remarks as homophobic and transphobic – charges he rejects.

On Sunday the Ola founder referred to pronouns as a "political philosophy" that doesn't translate to Indian culture. He also recounted the story of LinkedIn deleting his post for violating community guidelines – an action which led him to move Ola's entire workload to his own platform, Krutrim.

Launched in 2023, Krutrim and sister org Krutrim AI provide more than just cloud infrastructure. The pair are also working on a full AI computing stack and advanced silicon for datacenters – technologies India has previously had to rely on Western tech giants to provide. In his interview, Aggarwal described that situation as "techno colonialism."

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"Today we produce 20 percent of the world's digital data. It's not stored in India – only one tenth of that is stored in India. Ninety percent is exported into two global datacenters largely owned by Big Tech. It is processed into AI and brought back into India and sold to us in dollars. It is exactly what happened 200 years ago with the East India Company," lamented Aggarwal.

Ditching Microsoft Azure was just the beginning for Ola. It announced last week it was also dropping Google Maps – opting instead for an open source leveraged solution available on Krutrim Cloud.

"After Azure exit last month, we've now fully exited Google Maps. We used to spend ₹100 crore [about $12 million] a year but we've made that 0 this month by moving completely to our in house Ola maps!" [15]Aggarwal exclaimed last Friday. ®

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[9] https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/11/ola_exits_international_markets/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/23/in_blow_to_ridesharing_apps/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/16/apple_iphones_india/

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[15] https://x.com/bhash/status/1809232988670136364

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If these idiots really are the Techno Robber Barons of today

Anonymous Coward

Then I’m investigating in pitchforks.

Re: If these idiots really are the Techno Robber Barons of today

Dinanziame

Your spell checker warrants an investigation.

anonymous boring coward

Crazy, clearly. Might have some brain parasite?

Dude's not wrong... (except where he is)

Joe W

IFF your job offers purpose and fulfils you, and you really enjoy doing it you can work crazy hours. Look at researchers. One does not work as a researcher, one is a researcher, the interest in the chosen subject drives them onwards.

Those of us with mundane jobs don't. We also don't get a bajillion dollars in "compensation", we get a salary. We also have to take care of mundane tasks like laundry, shopping, and dropping the kids off at sports / music lessons / chess boxing / whatever. We cannot pay people to do all of that for us, unlike this person that I think is an ultra rich and disconnected from reality idiot. We also like spending time with our families.

Also: If you sleep four hours it does not mean you are working 20 hours. You need to eat at some point (and, well, excrete, though this guy apparently does it perfectly through his mouth and through Xitter), get a haircut, see a GP or a dentist and a million other things. This does not normally count as work for us.

Re: Dude's not wrong... (except where he is)

simonlb

He also seems to have a beef with Western culture as well as a lot of post-colonial resentment, but doesn't explain why a whole generation of young people in his own country should now do 'penance' by working ridiculous hours just because he does.

Re: Dude's not wrong... (except where he is)

ChoHag

Do we also get to count sitting on the toilet "coming up with" new ideas as work?

Re: Dude's not wrong... (except where he is)

bluesxman

@Joe W

Tell me more about this "chess boxing" -- inquiring minds need to know.

Of course it had to exist!

MiguelC

https://indoorgameinsights.com/what-is-chess-boxing/

Re: Dude's not wrong... (except where he is)

nematoad

... he works 20 hours a day, seven days a week

Then he's either a liar or a fool.

Working that long and sleeping 4 hours a day is a recipe for poor decisions, confusion and burn-out.

On the other hand he seems to be well balanced, a chip on both shoulders. I agree with simonlb he comes over as someone who cannot let go of the past and what on Earth does doing "penance" mean.

He is one of those people who lives to work and condemns others who work to live and I am glad that I do not have to work for him.

Re: Dude's not wrong... (except where he is)

Jellied Eel

Working that long and sleeping 4 hours a day is a recipe for poor decisions, confusion and burn-out.

Burn-out is fine, if the employee is easily replaceable. The philosophy is productivity mixed with the mythical man month. Have 20hr days, need fewer employees. Have employee paid for a 20hr day but charged out based on 8hr day + overtime and rejoice at the profits. But as you say, the majority of people can't work a 20hr day, mistakes get made by tired workers and any productivity gains are quickly lost dealing with the mistakes. Employees are people, not just resources. Work'em too hard and performance suffers and they break.

Re: Dude's not wrong... (except where he is)

LogicGate

If the dude works 20 hours a day, then he is not sleeping for 4 hours.

Let us be generous, and suggest that he manages to wash, eat all the day's meals, commute to and from work and take all his toilet-time compressed into an hour, that leaves him with 3 hours for sleep.

Does he look like a ragged unkept wreck of a man?

No?

Then he is lying or counting a lot of non-work stuff as work.

Narcisistic prick

Re: Dude's not wrong... (except where he is)

jmch

One other way in which he isn't wrong - there's a new generation that is going to have to pay for the collective selfishness and overconsumption of their parents and grandparents. I wouldn't call it 'penance' though, that's taking the consequences for your own actions. Rather they will have to take the consequences of other people's actions:

1) Massive debt in all western countries, accrued like there's no tomorrow, helped along by the assumption that low interest rates will last forever. That debt will have to be repaid by future generations, whether by taxation or inflation.

2) The continued ignorance around the looming social security disaster. FFS France just torpedoed the only adult in the room who was willing to face the facts that if your population is living 10 years longer, you have to increase retirement age by 6-7 years. But they couldn't stomach even a 3 year increase. But that's just the extreme case, social security will be bankrupt everywhere in a decade or so. Bonus idiot points for those who are against immigrant workers - whose taxes are going to pay your pension when you're retired? And who's going to take care of you and nurse you when you're too infirm to take care of yourself?

In shock news...

lglethal

Man who relies on other people working to generate his ludicrous income, demands those other people work ludicrous hours in order to earn him even more ludicrous income.

Here's Tom with the weather...

(What an asshat! Since what he's advocating is actually illegal (even in India), what are the chances he's going to be charged with encouraging law breaking? *crickets chirping *... Didn't think so...)

'A generation will have to do penance' says Bhavish Aggarwal

wolfetone

"Get fucked." says humanity.

Gene Cash

> Aggarwal told India outlet ANI News that he works 20 hours a day, seven days a week

Uh huh. Pull the other one, it's got bells on. Does he think "checking my texts every so often" constitutes work? I used to have co-workers like that.

When they pay me for 70 hours a week, I'll work 70 hours a week. Wait, what? you want those extra hours for free? Nope, not happenin', Mr. Techbro.

Right now, I work 10 hours a day... but I get paid 10 hours a day, and I get every Friday off. And honestly, it lets me turn off the phone and get "in the zone" for a while and crack out some code.

Managers' Wheeze

Anonymous Coward

"I'll be out of the office due to (possibly-or-possibly-not valid reason), but I'll be checking voicemail and email."

So managers are paid full wages for quasi-working, but when the rank-and-file workers can't make it to the office due to (valid reason), we have to take unpaid leave.

Walking to School Barefoot in the Snow, Uphill Both Ways

An_Old_Dog

Some possibilities:

1. He's simply lying about his working 20 hours/day, 7 days/week.

2. He has the ability to work in in his sleep.

3. He's using Bolivian marching powder to stay semi-conscious 20 hours/day, and it's making him mentally unbalanced.

4. His innate God-like genetics allow him to transcend the biological need for sleep.

See: "When I was Your Age" by Wierd Al Yankovic @:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SnAF2o5y63w

Icon for, "When I was your age, we'd ..."

Re: Walking to School Barefoot in the Snow, Uphill Both Ways

sjb2016reg

Can one every have enough Weird Al references in a comments thread? Didn't think so. And screw all the techbros, let's go live in an Amish Paradise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZLb33uCg

Re: Walking to School Barefoot in the Snow, Uphill Both Ways

Bebu

1. He's simply lying about his working 20 hours/day, 7 days/week.

2. He has the ability to work in in his sleep.

3. He's using Bolivian marching powder to stay semi-conscious 20 hours/day, and it's making him mentally unbalanced.

4. His innate God-like genetics allow him to transcend the biological need for sleep.

Probably the superposition of all four.

This box wallah is decidedly doolally (Deolali.)

If he and fellow travellers were to have their way the poor working sods on the subcontinent would probably have been better off under Clive (perhaps not quite, but still...)

The insane, patently unwinnable war on the past serves only to distract the deluded polloi from the ills of the present, their contemporary causes and potential remedies, usually to the enrichment of the warmongers.

bluesxman

So much to pick at but this:

We used to spend ₹100 crore [about $12 million] a year but we've made that 0 this month by moving completely to our in house Ola maps!"

I mean that's total bullshit, because your data centre et al doesn't run for free. Maybe you're doing some tax fiddle to get the cost to appear zero to you and a loss to some other business arm, which sounds like it's probably screwing your countries economy a little into the bargain. What a hero.

Baird34

It is his perogative to work as many hours as he likes, and he is extremely well financially rewarded for doing so. To ask salaried people to work that many hours is the height of narsacistic bullcrap.

I would like to see him

tiggity

doing 20 hours a day, manual labour e.g. in India still lots of small scale non mechanised farms, where you still need to manually till the soil, milk the cattle etc.

He wouldn't last a day, never mind a week.

Tweeting & pontificating is not work, its narcissistic self aggrandisement (and seems to be a lot of his "work" hours)

ChoHag

> It is exactly what happened 200 years ago with the East India Company

Not quite. Back then we came in with guns and forced you to do it. Now like a diabetic in a sweet shop you're doing it to yourself.

It seems like only England learned the lesson from its centuries of oppression that oppression comes back to bite you in the arse. Or chop off your head.

Spazturtle

When Deng took over China in 1976 the GDP per capita of China was lower than that of England in the middle ages, people in China had a lower quality of life than medieval peasants. Now China is a rapidly developing country and a regional power.

If you want to see why India has not been able to replicate this (despite starting with a much higher level of wealth and development) then the stupidity being spouted by the moron in this article is a good example.

described clocking off to enjoy life as "an outcome of Western thought process"

Howard Sway

Funnily enough, he doesn't seem to have too much against outcomes of Western thought processes such as capitalism, self enrichment or any of the technologies he's used to achieve his position in life. No, it's just the bit where workers don't want to have to spend every waking hour enriching their boss that he objects to.

Considering how hard he says he works, he also doesn't seem to have been capable of coming up with any better idea than simply copying ideas that were successful in the "West" that he derides. In fact, even his "work all hours" idea is just a copy of somebody else's idea. How many hours of work does it really take to tell your minions "Copy this thing. Copy that thing"? About 15 minutes a week should be more than enough.

I think my career is ruined!