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Analysts join the call for Microsoft to recall Recall

(2024/06/04)


If Microsoft intended the 2024 Build event to be overshadowed by controversy then it succeeded as calls intensify for the company to rethink its strategy around Recall.

The Windows Recall feature, still in preview, takes a snapshot of a Copilot + PC user's screen every couple of seconds and then sends it to disk, letting the user scroll the archive of snapshots when looking for something or use an AI system to recall screenshots by text.

It'a gone down badly with security researchers and privacy experts, and the latest to cast judgement is Directions on Microsoft analyst Barry Briggs, [1]who asked the question : "Should Microsoft Recall Be Recalled?"

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While reiterating the concerns about capturing sensitive information, Briggs also highlighted the investments Microsoft has made in Purview, its family of compliance services.

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Purview allows compliance teams to monitor user activities. This can include monitoring emails and Teams chats for policy-busting activities. "An add-on called Forensic Evidence can literally watch, in real time, what an employee is doing, in order to collect evidence for an investigation," said Briggs. "Sound familiar?"

Briggs posited a future in which compliance administrators might be able to silently switch on Recall via a policy setting or where the authorities might demand access to Recall's local storage.

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Then there is the question of why Windows has long had a search feature crying out for investment, yet Microsoft chose instead to add to Windows' attack surface with Recall to claim a victory of sorts in the AI tech wars and shift a few more Copilot+ PCs.

"Does any of this add real value for users or enterprises?" asked Briggs.

To add to Microsoft's woes, cybersecurity researcher Kevin Beaumont last week [6]took apart the technology behind Recall and found it severely wanting. Taking aside the fact that getting into the encrypted data appeared relatively trivial, text OCR'd from screenshots turned up in plain text form in a SQLite database.

[7]Windows 11's Recall feature is on by default on Copilot+ PCs

[8]Microsoft's Recall preview doesn't need a Copilot+ PC to run

[9]Will Windows drive a PC refresh? Everyone's talking about AI

[10]Was there no one at Microsoft who looked at Recall and said: This really, really sucks

Beaumont wrote: "The overwhelmingly negative reaction has probably taken Microsoft leadership by surprise. For almost everybody else, it won't have. This was like watching Microsoft become an [11]Apple Mac marketing department ."

It is difficult to understand what Microsoft was thinking when it announced Recall and made the preview available. It is almost as if something that developers were playing around with somehow made its way into the world in a half-baked state.

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We can imagine the conversation:

"A bunch of new AI PCs are being launched – what can we show on them?"

"Er, we could do that AI Paint thing?"

"No – nobody cares about that."

"How about the blurred background on video calls?"

"Got anything else?"

"Well, there is that history thing that Bob was playing with, but..."

"I'll take it!"

There is something to the idea. As Briggs observed: "The UI for Recall would be dandy for a first-class, local Windows Backup a la the Mac's wonderful Time Machine."

However, in its current state, Recall is anything but sound. The outcry among researchers and analysts alike indicates that Microsoft needs to make some urgent changes, both to the technology and the decision-making processes that led to Recall being released. ®

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[1] https://www.directionsonmicrosoft.com/blog/cio-talk-should-microsoft-recall-be-recalled/

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[6] https://doublepulsar.com/recall-stealing-everything-youve-ever-typed-or-viewed-on-your-own-windows-pc-is-now-possible-da3e12e9465e

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/03/windows_11_recall_on_default/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/28/microsofts_recall_preview_on_non_ai_pc/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/28/windows_to_drive_pc_refresh/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/25/microsoft_build_kettle/

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[13] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



To me this is a strong signal for Microsoft

Anonymous Coward

that this feature is extremely useful and has to be kept at any cost. You'll see.

Re: To me this is a strong signal for Microsoft

Anonymous Coward

Yeah, they want to train AI to do the same jobs that everyone using a computer is currently doing.

It's patently obvious.

The only solution is to move away from Microsoft.

Smart Tags anyone?

Forget It

https://www.theregister.com/2001/06/13/have_you_been_smart_tagged/

Doctor Syntax

"An add-on called Forensic Evidence can literally watch, in real time, what an employee is doing, in order to collect evidence for an investigation,"

That sounds like a channel by which possibly restricted information can leak to those not entitled to see it. Just because someone is on a compliance teem doesn't mean they should be enabled to see any personal data the user might be legitimately handling.

"letting the user scroll the archive of snapshots"

Pascal Monett

Letting the user.

You mean the idiot who can't think unless he has his smartphone telling him what he thinks.

You mean all those users who have now gotten used to Windows Search telling them where their applications were.

I'm sure those people will be eminently capable of understanding what all those screenshots mean . . .

Re: "letting the user scroll the archive of snapshots"

The Oncoming Scorn

Everything you think, do or say

Is on the app you look at today.

Re: "letting the user scroll the archive of snapshots"

Victor Ludorum

Where did you get the script for the Microsoft Copilot+ PC ads from?

I am surprised

Snake

I am quite surprised that all the legally-required entities that might be affected by this - medical, banking, Wall Street trading companies, lawyers, etc - haven't said much in support of killing this "technology". From HIPAA to the SEC, certainly having both image & text records of transaction information that is required by law to be secured must raise SOME suspicions...?

Are our 'benefactors' in Big Business asleep at the wheel, or are they just looking at yet another thing that they'll try (somehow) to monetize for their own benefit?

Re: I am surprised

Dan 55

There isn't a day that goes by without some corporation being thoroughly owned because they treated security as some cost-reduced box-ticking afterthought. Why would this be any different?

"Maybe we should think of this as one perfect week... where we found each
other, and loved each other... and then let each other go before anyone
had to seek professional help."